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Need help in using "which Modifier", please can someone help?

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I always get confuse when "which" is used as a modifier testing exception rule where it is okay to use "Which" even if it not touching the Noun and since English is not my native language I do not understand subject vs Subject phrase to identify does which modify a subject or a Subject phrase.
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"the fossils of a large scaly creature, which resembles both...." Here does which "modifies the fossils" with vital modifier "of largely scary creature between them" or does which modify just the "scaly creature"? can someone please help?

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I always get confuse when "which" is used as a modifier testing exception rule where it is okay to use "Which" even if it not touching the Noun and since English is not my native language I do not understand subject vs Subject phrase to identify does which modify a subject or a Subject phrase.
e.g
"the fossils of a large scaly creature, which resembles both...." Here does which "modifies the fossils" with vital modifier "of largely scary creature between them" or does which modify just the "scaly creature"? can someone please help?


since you gave a specific example . i will go with that.

which resembles - resembles is a singular verb. so it can modify only singular subject/Noun.

Here we have creature (singular) and fossils ( plural) , so here which only can modify creature.

but whether the modification is correct or not depends on what they have provide after that, it depends on logic

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Hey, thanks for the speedy revert; however, I still have some doubt, why is below statement wrong?, are there any videos or links, I can access to get my concepts strong for which modifier?

The population of tigers in the National Park is increasing steadily: which is a source of encouragement to those who have worked so hard to fund the conservation effort.

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rakshitnarayanan wrote:
I always get confuse when "which" is used as a modifier testing exception rule where it is okay to use "Which" even if it not touching the Noun and since English is not my native language I do not understand subject vs Subject phrase to identify does which modify a subject or a Subject phrase.
e.g
"the fossils of a large scaly creature, which resembles both...." Here does which "modifies the fossils" with vital modifier "of largely scary creature between them" or does which modify just the "scaly creature"? can someone please help?


since you gave a specific example . i will go with that.

which resembles - resembles is a singular verb. so it can modify only singular subject/Noun.

Here we have creature (singular) and fossils ( plural) , so here which only can modify creature.

but whether the modification is correct or not depends on what they have provide after that, it depends on logic

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Hey, thanks for the speedy revert; however, I still have some doubt, why is below statement wrong?, are there any videos or links, I can access to get my concepts strong for which modifier?

Qtn1- The population of tigers in the National Park is increasing steadily: which is a source of encouragement to those who have worked so hard to fund the conservation effort.

Qtn2- In the engineering sector at the moment there are no jobs for those without experience, which makes it difficult for us recent graduates to get started on our careers.

Why is the use of "which" incorrect in both the statements above??

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rakshitnarayanan wrote:
I always get confuse when "which" is used as a modifier testing exception rule where it is okay to use "Which" even if it not touching the Noun and since English is not my native language I do not understand subject vs Subject phrase to identify does which modify a subject or a Subject phrase.
e.g
"the fossils of a large scaly creature, which resembles both...." Here does which "modifies the fossils" with vital modifier "of largely scary creature between them" or does which modify just the "scaly creature"? can someone please help?


since you gave a specific example . i will go with that.

which resembles - resembles is a singular verb. so it can modify only singular subject/Noun.

Here we have creature (singular) and fossils ( plural) , so here which only can modify creature.

but whether the modification is correct or not depends on what they have provide after that, it depends on logic

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New post 24 Dec 2016, 11:30
Hi mate,

In the above 2 sentences which is refering to the actions done.. it isn't the right way.

Which can only refer to nouns (things).

Generally speaking, we should always use logic and grammar simultaneously to get the right answer.

For example,
The book is on the table, which is red in color.
What is red? Book or table? Here we have confusion. So 'which' usage is not right.

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New post 24 Dec 2016, 11:33
I am not a verbal expert, but will try to answer the qs.

Qtn1- The population of tigers in the National Park is increasing steadily: which is a source of encouragement to those who have worked so hard to fund the conservation effort.

" is increasing steadily: which" , i never saw any official sentence using ":". In general as per GMAT rules "," should precede the which because it is a non-essential modifier.

Qtn2- In the engineering sector at the moment there are no jobs for those without experience, which makes it difficult for us recent graduates to get started on our careers.

hah, this a classical example where which is wrongly used. in fact this kind of sentence cannot be modified using touch modifiers such as that or which

Noun modifiers are good at those modification.

why this sentence is wrong for that you have to answer one qs : " which makes it difficult for us recent graduates" actually what is the reason for this difficulty. it is the fact that they dont have work experience , but which is touching only work experience. it doesn't convey the meaning.

that and which cannot modify this complex idea , they can modify only simple things.

For ex: Ravi used a pen, which is used by sachin, for his entrance exam.

Look closely at the above sentence here we just added one specific info about pen.

But in our early case which is trying to modify a idea.

with the above explanation i have provide definitely you will not able to understand fully.

if you are practicing OG question, you can see maagoosh video. They have provided explanation.

And there are few articles about noun modifiers by egmat. it will be available in SC section. if you read that you will get good idea.

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