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Hi doggydog,

Thank you for sharing your profile. On the surface, your profile appears to be good. To begin with, your undergrad GPA is fine, so don't be worried. Coming to your GMAT, 710 is a decent score, but a high GMAT score will enhance your chances. Also, deferred programs are competitive; if you can get 760+ or higher than average, that will be excellent. On the work front, you will need to bring instances of times when you were in leadership position. What impact you've had and what you've accomplished.

Through your ECs, I can clearly see a mature leader and an impactful person. So, your work experience should lead to very interesting conversations with adcoms, and your ECs should help bring out the qualities that b-schools look for in a candidate. However, you can take a look at what business schools look in the candidate for deferred MBA programs. Business Schools, especially for deferred MBA programs, aspire to create future leaders, so the potential must be visible in their students already!

Your goals are good. Just a quick bit of advice: divide them into long-term and short-term goals. You are not specifically requested to do so, it is good to examine how you might link your goals to your past experience and accomplishments. So, consider your short-term and long-term goals carefully. This will make the story more ordered, logical, and concise, which will be appreciated by the admissions committee. Overall you have a good profile. If you’d like, we are happy to hop on a call with you sometime this week to discuss your profile in length and further chances to the b-schools. Feel free to book a free session with us as per your convenience.

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Hey all! Would really appreciate a quick profile review for the round of 2022. Here are some quick stats

Background and nationality: Asian Female from China, came to US for undergrad
Undergrad Information: Columbia
GPA: 3.73 (I'm having some inferiority syndrome over this - is it worth feeling anxious about?)
GMAT: Sep.7 710, will prob chase until hitting 760+
Target: Wharton, GSB, HBS

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Freshman & sophomore some random capital-structure related IBD product groups;
Junior & full time IBD Leveraged Finance at one of the BBs

Extra Curricular:
Vice Development Officer at Smart Woman Securities- initiate mentorship program and lead educational series;
Business Development Chair at an Investment Research club- lead the development team and initiate monthly credit market update;
President of Finance & Lead Peer Mentor at two other clubs;
TA for Corporate Finance & RA for a one-semester bank loan related research study;

Why deferred MBA?
Specifically interested in LevFin/Rx and distressed investing. Having any one of the 3 schools above on my resume as a fresh grad could significantly increase my chance of fast forwarding career path and landing at top credit funds. Ultimately want to pivot back to Asia and start my own distressed debt fund. Believe that alternative strategy funds should have some social-responsibility-based investing standards and females CAN have a long-term, sustainable career in this space. MBA degree at 23 just makes this future easier to happen.
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Hi! I wanna know my chances at any Deferred MBA Program. Here is a brief profile outlook of me:

Nationality: Indian
Undergrad Degree: Bachelors in Business Administration from IIM Rohtak (One of Best B-Schools in India)
CGPA: 7.59 (Will try to get till 8 by the end)
GMAT: 710 (Q49 V37 IR7)

Internships: 6 and Total Work Experience: 18 Months
Notable Internships: Ernst and Young (Finance Intern) and Global Brands Magazine (Internship in Dorset, England - Just to make it count as an international experience)
Have a Startup that works in Indian Private Tutor Market: Awarded as Top 9 Startups of India by Future50
Leadership Positions: Head of Placement Committee, Head of Debating Society and Operations Society

These are the notable parts of my CV, rest are just basic certifications and competitions.

I understand my profile maybe really subpar so please advice if I should at least apply to 2+2 Programs or just completely leave them out and go for MiM Programs of LBS, INSEAD, ESSEC, etc.
Please advice me :)
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KabxW:

The Deferred MBA programs are going to be tough (GMAT is the major concern and just the sheer competition), though there are more options these days than there were in the past. You do have some great credentials especially with internships and extracurricular involvement.

Why is the choice MiM vs. Deferred MBA? What about full-time MBA? While there is plenty of overlap between these programs they are fundamentally two different experiences. What are you trying to achieve? What type of learning do you want to get out of it? What type of career goal are you going to discuss in your application? If you want an MBA, you could always apply in a couple of years through the normal admissions process.

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The Deferred MBA programs are going to be tough (GMAT is the major concern and just the sheer competition), though there are more options these days than there were in the past. You do have some great credentials especially with internships and extracurricular involvement.

Why is the choice MiM vs. Deferred MBA? What about full-time MBA? While there is plenty of overlap between these programs they are fundamentally two different experiences. What are you trying to achieve? What type of learning do you want to get out of it? What type of career goal are you going to discuss in your application? If you want an MBA, you could always apply in a couple of years through the normal admissions process.

Let us know so we can be of maximum help.

Thank you so much for replying. So, essentially I am in the final year of my Undergrad and I am really not getting any placement from my college, so I wanted to go for MiM or Deferred MBAs. For proper PGP Programs there is a need of work ex, which I won't have soon so I wanted to apply for these MiM or Deferred MBAs

Can you suggest some good schools or programs as per my profile please?
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KabxW:

What are you trying to achieve professionally? Where do you want to be geographically? Do you have any criteria for school selection? It's hard to just say "these schools fit your profile" without some sort of guidance. These schools always take diverse candidates so that's not a great starting point.

Happy to be of help, but could really use more information! Looking forward to hearing back from you.

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Great profile! You definitely stand a chance. Can I assume you're looking at the deferred MBA programs are those schools?

If so, make sure you highlight your specific accomplishments in your EC roles. Those are as (if not more) important than your internships.

Obviously you want to secure that very high GMAT score. That's especially critical for deferred MBA candidates and particularly if you are worried about your GPA.

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Hi! I wanna know my chances at any Deferred MBA Program. Here is a brief profile outlook of me:

Nationality: Indian
Undergrad Degree: Bachelors in Business Administration from IIM Rohtak (One of Best B-Schools in India)
CGPA: 7.59 (Will try to get till 8 by the end)
GMAT: 710 (Q49 V37 IR7)

Internships: 6 and Total Work Experience: 18 Months
Notable Internships: Ernst and Young (Finance Intern) and Global Brands Magazine (Internship in Dorset, England - Just to make it count as an international experience)
Have a Startup that works in Indian Private Tutor Market: Awarded as Top 9 Startups of India by Future50
Leadership Positions: Head of Placement Committee, Head of Debating Society and Operations Society

These are the notable parts of my CV, rest are just basic certifications and competitions.

I understand my profile maybe really subpar so please advice if I should at least apply to 2+2 Programs or just completely leave them out and go for MiM Programs of LBS, INSEAD, ESSEC, etc.
Please advice me :)

Congrats on your academic and extra curricular achievements thus far. You are in the running for deferred programs with a GMAT score in the range you are suggesting. There are more deferred program options now, and getting into one can even help you get a better/different job post grad versus what you have already secured. The key on the apps is to have memorable essays, as so many do wind up writing cliché, generalized applications. I say go for the US deferred options!


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Background:
- Asian male, US citizen
- Current senior at T20 UG Business School
- GMAT: 760
- GPA: 3.6/4.0 (GPA excluding freshman year: 3.95/4.00)

Work Experience:
- Summer internship in investment banking, Goldman Sachs TMT - returning full-time
- Summer internship in investment banking, lower MM firm - received return offer but declined
- Founder of Startup that raised six-figure pre-seed round at multiple million dollar valuation and had $10-15k MRR
- Founder of Startup that grew to almost $1M in ARR and was acquired my freshman year. (Also why GPA is low this year)

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- Founder and President of an Entrepreneurship committee that centralized all of the entrepreneurship organizations on campus under one centralized association
- President of Entrepreneurship Club
- Co-Founder and President of a Chapter of a non-profit focusing on curating the next leaders of finance at different Universities across the US
- President of Club that provides mentorship and lessons in financial literacy and personal finance to underprivileged high school kids
- Previously founded Non-profit Foundation (501c3) helping over 500+ homeless people

Target Schools
- HBS 2+2, GSB Deferred (preferred out of the three), Wharton Moelis Program

Why I want a Deferred MBA
- I want to pursue entrepreneurship specifically within Tech and having a deferred admission would allow me to take more risk and after my analyst stint in IB I could potentially join a either early stage (Series A) or later stage startup in a operation/strategy role to further my understanding for operations and have industry expertise to hopefully start something during my MBA with the resources they can provide and the network. Also gives me time to build a foundation of skills and time to think about a problem worth solving.

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J24 - looks like an awesome profile.

I am moving your post into more relevant Stanford topic. I think it will find better attention here. Feel free to repost it if not.

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Hi J24,

Thank you for sharing your profile. Starting with the stats, your 760 GMAT will compensate for your low GPA, and you do have the explanation for the same that AdComs will surely understand. On the work front, you must have gained valuable experience through internships. The startup you founded should be the highlight of your profile; founding a startup may generate good stories, especially if you have had some success with it. You must demonstrate how your startup experience helped you build leadership skills and handle things when things have gone wrong. Adcoms should get the sense that the candidate possesses the necessary qualities and values and is qualified for an MBA at their school. Since the profile is evaluated on a set of factors, the qualitative aspect will be critical. Your essays should discuss some significant events in your life that influenced you positively, such as handling a crisis or building a habit over time, and so on. Without a doubt, your ECs are excellent. Your reason for deferred MBA seems reasonable, and it demonstrates your ambition and innovation, which AdComs would undoubtedly appreciate.

Overall, you have a great profile and stand a chance at HBS, Stanford, and Wharton. You can take a look at what business schools look in the candidate for deferred MBA programs. Business Schools, especially for deferred MBA programs, aspire to create future leaders, so the potential must be visible in their students already! What matters most is how you connect the dots and create a compelling narrative. If you’d like, we are happy to hop on a call with you sometime this week to discuss your profile in length and further chances to b-schools. Feel free to book a free session with us as per your convenience.

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Background:
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- Current senior at T20 UG Business School
- GMAT: 760
- GPA: 3.6/4.0 (GPA excluding freshman year: 3.95/4.00)

Work Experience:
- Summer internship in investment banking, Goldman Sachs TMT - returning full-time
- Summer internship in investment banking, lower MM firm - received return offer but declined
- Founder of Startup that raised six-figure pre-seed round at multiple million dollar valuation and had $10-15k MRR
- Founder of Startup that grew to almost $1M in ARR and was acquired my freshman year. (Also why GPA is low this year)

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- Founder and President of an Entrepreneurship committee that centralized all of the entrepreneurship organizations on campus under one centralized association
- President of Entrepreneurship Club
- Co-Founder and President of a Chapter of a non-profit focusing on curating the next leaders of finance at different Universities across the US
- President of Club that provides mentorship and lessons in financial literacy and personal finance to underprivileged high school kids
- Previously founded Non-profit Foundation (501c3) helping over 500+ homeless people

Target Schools
- HBS 2+2, GSB Deferred (preferred out of the three), Wharton Moelis Program

Why I want a Deferred MBA
- I want to pursue entrepreneurship specifically within Tech and having a deferred admission would allow me to take more risk and after my analyst stint in IB I could potentially join a either early stage (Series A) or later stage startup in a operation/strategy role to further my understanding for operations and have industry expertise to hopefully start something during my MBA with the resources they can provide and the network. Also gives me time to build a foundation of skills and time to think about a problem worth solving.

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While I'd love to get my Profile Evaluated, I also want to get advice on which job I should take to maximize my chances at HBS/GSB deferred MBA:

Background: US Citizen, Northeast Public School (Valedictorian if that matters)

Undergrad: Elite non-Ivy (think Duke/Vanderbilt/Northwestern)

GMAT: 750 (49Q, 44V, 8IR)

GPA: 3.95/4.00 (Dual-major in CS and Philosophy, Business Minor)

Experience: Either McKinsey Digital BA or Microsoft Product Manager (I know HBS prefers operator roles, but McK is more prestigious so I'm unsure of where to go)
- Had 2 Product Management internships at startups (1 was in Jerusalem), Product Management internship at non-tech F100

Extracurriculars: Nothing too special but I can embellish a lot (Project Manager of Club that consults for startups, Seed Stage VC Fellowship, Did Due-Diligence for COVID tech solutions for a VC non-profit initiative)

Post MBA goals: Transition to startups in an operating role, Do Entrepreneurship (MBA helps for network primarily)
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You have the scores/statistics for these deferred MBA programs, as difficult as they may be.

That being said, your lack of extracurricular activities is a concern. Internships are nice to have but ECs and other sort of community involvement tend to matter more. That's because it's very hard for undergrads to land internships and even when they do the experiences aren't even that telling about your potential.

I also think you should have a much more defined career goal. Perhaps you have one and aren't putting it here in a post (understandable) but it must be well-spelled out in your essays.

I see no reason why you should not apply. Bear in mind, GSB and HBS are the most difficult, so you may want to consider other deferred programs as well as prepare that you might need to (re-)apply through the normal admissions process in at least a couple of years.

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Just want to back up everything Admissionado has to say here.

Also, think broadly about your leadership profile - if your formal ECs don't point to achieving a positive impact there, is there anything else that can?

if you had the ability to make a positive impact in your internships, something that really added value to the organization, make sure to focus on that in your CV, recs, application boxes; main essay only if it can be weaved into a compelling personal narrative.

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Background: US Citizen, Northeast Public School (Valedictorian if that matters)

Undergrad: Elite non-Ivy (think Duke/Vanderbilt/Northwestern)

GMAT: 750 (49Q, 44V, 8IR)

GPA: 3.95/4.00 (Dual-major in CS and Philosophy, Business Minor)

Experience: Either McKinsey Digital BA or Microsoft Product Manager (I know HBS prefers operator roles, but McK is more prestigious so I'm unsure of where to go)
- Had 2 Product Management internships at startups (1 was in Jerusalem), Product Management internship at non-tech F100

Extracurriculars: Nothing too special but I can embellish a lot (Project Manager of Club that consults for startups, Seed Stage VC Fellowship, Did Due-Diligence for COVID tech solutions for a VC non-profit initiative)

Post MBA goals: Transition to startups in an operating role, Do Entrepreneurship (MBA helps for network primarily)
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Background:
- Asian male, US citizen
- Current senior at T20 UG Business School
- GMAT: 760
- GPA: 3.61/4.00 (GPA excluding freshman year: 3.95/4.00)

Work Experience:
- Summer internship in investment banking, Goldman Sachs TMT - returning full-time
- Fall/Spring internship in Operations/Strategy at YC & Venture Backed Series A Startup
- Summer internship in investment banking, lower MM firm - received return offer but declined
- Founder of Startup that raised six-figure pre-seed round at multiple million dollar valuation and had $10-15k MRR
- Founder of Startup that grew to almost $1M in ARR and was acquired my freshman year. (Also why GPA is low this year)

EC’s
- Founder and President of an Entrepreneurship committee that centralized all of the entrepreneurship organizations on campus under one centralized association
- President of Entrepreneurship Club on campus (1 of 5)
- Co-Founder and President of a Chapter of a non-profit focusing on curating the next leaders of finance at different Universities across the US (Backed by Bulge Bracket banks and finance leaders)
- President of Club that provides mentorship and lessons in financial literacy and personal finance to underprivileged high school kids
- Previously founded Non-profit Foundation (501c3) helping over 500+ homeless people

Target Schools
- HBS 2+2, GSB Deferred (preferred out of the three), Wharton Moelis Program

Why I want a Deferred MBA
- I want to pursue entrepreneurship specifically within Tech and having a deferred admission would allow me to take more risk and after my analyst stint in IB I could potentially join a either early stage (Series A) or later stage startup in a operation/strategy role to further my understanding for operations and have industry expertise to hopefully start something during my MBA with the resources they can provide and the network. Also gives me time to build a foundation of skills and time to think about a problem worth solving.

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J24:

I would not worry about your GPA. It's totally fine for these deferred MBA programs. They are looking at the overall potential of the candidate and GPA, while important, is actually more subjective than one thinks. GPAs from country to country, school to school, major to major, and class to class vary tremendously; in fact, they range more than one thinks.

I would not use your optional essay to talk about your "lower" GPA. It could actually look arrogant. It'd be one thing if you GPA were closer to a 3.0. It's not, so there's no need to draw attention to it or justify it with reasoning that isn't really appropriate for optional essays.

These programs are obviously insanely difficult but, on paper, you have a shot. At the very least, you'll be well-positioned to reapply a few years later via the regular process if all else fails.

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Thanks for the feed

Hi Everyone,
I would be applying to a lot of deferred MBA programs, HBS, GSB, UVA Darden, Columbia, Emory, etc.
Background: Indian, Male, 21yrs
Education: B.Tech Environmental Engineering, 9.1 CGPA, IIT, Dhanbad; Minor Specialisation in Finance, IIT Dhanbad

Internships: 1. In Coal India( India's largest coal-producing company and world 5th , Its a PSU) as an Environmental Trainee
2. Tata Steel (One of India's largest steel producers) as an Environmental Intern

I have started a marketing company, which works with various tribal groups in India to sell their products on a global stage. We have started our own e-commerce site and have good placement of our product in different states of India.

Kindly guide me on the GMAT Mark I should be aiming for and my chances in the above mentioned deferred MBA programs.
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