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27 Jun 2003, 04:04
Statement of a United States copper mining company: Import quotas should be imposed on the less expensive copper mined outside the country to maintain the price of copper in this country; otherwise, our companies will not be able to stay in business. Response of a United States copper wire manufacturer: United States wire and cable manufacturers purchase about 70 percent of the copper mined in the United States. If the copper prices we pay are not at the international level, our sales will drop, and then the demand for United States copper will go down.

If the factual information presented by both companies is accurate, the best assessment of the logical relationship between the two arguments is that the wire manufacturer's argument

(A) is self-serving and irrelevant to the proposal of the mining company
(B) is circular, presupposing what it seeks to prove about the proposal of the mining company
(C) shows that the proposal of the mining company would have a negative effect on the mining company's own business
(D) fails to give a reason why the proposal of the mining company should not be put into effect to alleviate the concern of the mining company for staying in business
(E) establishes that even the mining company's business will prosper if the mining company's proposal is rejected

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27 Jun 2003, 04:13
Good stuff Stolyar !

The answer is C and the logic is the following:

Wire and cable manufacturers buy 70% of copper mined in the US. Secondly, these manufacturers would be uncompetitive if they pay higher price for raw material, i.e. mined copper, and would therefore lose business. This would result in loss of sales for copper mining companies too.

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27 Jun 2003, 04:46
It is E, this time.

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27 Jun 2003, 04:50
hmmm......

this was a tough one for me - I still can't figure out how to choose between C and E.....

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27 Jun 2003, 14:35
prashant wrote:
hmmm......

this was a tough one for me - I still can't figure out how to choose between C and E.....

This question is awful. C and E are not different, except that E has the word "even," implying that any change will affect both the mining company and the wire manufacturer. That probably makes it the "best" answer, but you're well on your way to a 95%ile + in the verbal if this thing comes up.

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29 Jun 2003, 20:17
stolyar wrote:
It is E, this time.

You're getting popular; people hate you, just like Bill Gates.

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29 Jan 2004, 16:44
The conditional in E, I think, is the clinching factor

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31 Jan 2004, 21:38
Let the answer be E but I would have chosen C. I guess even a wall street analyst for mining and metalurgy would have choosen C. grrrrrrr.

I do not understand how things are established about prosperity

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09 Feb 2004, 02:57
I still think the answer should be C, how can they establish the prosperity of the ming business?

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11 Feb 2004, 13:10
C might be wrong because a mere proposal by its self (in this particular case) can not affect business. Accepted proposal can. Consequently, C might be even worse option than E. I initially chose C.

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13 Feb 2004, 02:13
stolyar wrote:
It is E, this time.

I disagree. The mining company claims that the status quo hurts it now. Although the wire company claims that the proposal might exascerbate the problem, NO WHERE does it refute the statement that the status quo is hurting the mining company now. Hence, E cannot possibly be the answer.
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