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Once numbering in the millions worldwide, it is estimated that the wolf has declined to 200,000 in 57 countries, some 11,000 of them to be found in the lower 48 United States and Alaska.

(A) it is estimated that the wolf has declined to 200,000 in 57 countries, some

(B) the wolf is estimated to have declined to 200,000 in 57 countries, with approximately

(C) the wolf has declined to an estimate of 200,000 in 57 countries, some

(D) wolves have declined to an estimate of 200,000 in 57 countries, with approximately

(E) wolves have declined to an estimated 200,000 in 57 countries, some

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In one of our recent YouTube live videos, we spent a little bit of time discussing a totally unsexy idea: if you miss the important stuff in the NON-underlined portion of the sentence, you can get yourself into trouble on SC. And in this question, the word “them” should jump off the page at you, even though it's not underlined. It’s a sure sign that “wolves” needs to be plural.

With that in mind…

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(A) it is estimated that the wolf has declined to 200,000 in 57 countries, some

Well, “wolf” is singular in (A), and that’s a pretty big problem. The opening modifier (“once numbering in the millions worldwide”) also needs to be followed with something that actually “numbered” in the millions – so we need “wolves” to follow the comma.

So we have two great reasons to eliminate (A).

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(B) the wolf is estimated to have declined to 200,000 in 57 countries, with approximately

(B) has one of the same problems as (A): “them” (in the non-underlined portion of the sentence) can’t logically refer to “the wolf.”

And that’s enough to eliminate (B).

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(C) the wolf has declined to an estimate of 200,000 in 57 countries, some

And yet again: “them” is plural, but “the wolf” is singular. I’ll have more to say about the phrase declined to an estimate of 200,000” in a moment.

But for now, we can ditch (C).

(D) and (E) are the only two answer choices that correctly use the plural form of “wolves”, so let’s line these two up side-by-side:
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(D) wolves have declined to an estimate of 200,000 in 57 countries, with approximately
(E) wolves have declined to an estimated 200,000 in 57 countries, some

There are only two differences between the two answer choices. The first difference is the big one. In (D), we have “declined to an estimate of 200,000”, and it doesn’t quite make sense to say that the wolves declined to an estimate. (E) is much better: the wolves (i.e., the number of wolves) declined to “an estimated 200,000”, which is a far clearer way to indicate that the wolf population declined to a certain level.

And there’s arguably a meaning difference at the end of the sentence: in (E), “some 11,000 of them…” very reasonably modifies “an estimated 200,000 in 57 countries.” In (D), I can’t quite make sense of the word “with” – in general, “with” suggests some sort of accompaniment (“I ate burritos with green chile” or “I went to the movies with my daughter”), and I can’t quite figure out how that would apply here.

So both of those differences are subtle, but both point in the same direction: (E) is better than (D).
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IMO E

Modifiers should logically modify wolves or wolf
so Ais out.
wolves should be used as in the non-underlined part them can then have a logical antecedent.
(some 11,000 of them to be found in the lower 48 United States and Alaska.) so B & C are out.
out of D & E. e is more concise and correctly use some instead of with as used in option D.
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Errors in the sentence: there must be a noun after the modifying phrase "Once numbering in the millions worldwide"

Checking for the split,we have two options: 1. with approximately 2. some
with approximately 11,000 of them to be found - Prepositional phrase is grammatically correct but wordy.
Some 11,000 of them to be found- Noun + Noun modifier -- Grammatically correct and elegant construction

Left with C and E
"to an estimated 200,000" is more elegant than " to an estimate of 200,000"


Correct answer is E.
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IMO "D",

"with" is better than "some" in describing part of a group.
and wolves better than "the wolf".

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Once numbering in the millions worldwide, it is estimated that the wolf has declined to 200,000 in 57 countries, some 11,000 of them to be found in the lower 48 United States and Alaska.

(A) it is estimated that the wolf has declined to 200,000 in 57 countries, some

(B) the wolf is estimated to have declined to 200,000 in 57 countries, with approximately

(C) the wolf has declined to an estimate of 200,000 in 57 countries, some

(D) wolves have declined to an estimate of 200,000 in 57 countries, with approximately

(E) wolves have declined to an estimated 200,000 in 57 countries, some

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IMO, correct answer is E.
Though B is close but has awkward construction estimated to have
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How do we figure out whether to use "some", or "with approximately"?

Is there a redundancy problem with "estimated" and "approximately"?

Is this why I should've picked (E) instead of (D).

I don't understand when people say pick (E) because it's more concise.

(E) is literally one word less.
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How do we figure out whether to use "some", or "with approximately"?

Is there a redundancy problem with "estimated" and "approximately"?

Is this why I should've picked (E) instead of (D).

I don't understand when people say pick (E) because it's more concise.

(E) is literally one word less.



IMO D is wrong for the reason that 'approximate' cannot be used for countable (wolves) nouns.
E corrects the error.
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Once numbering in the millions worldwide, it is estimated that the wolf has declined to 200,000 in 57 countries, some 11,000 of them to be found in the lower 48 United States and Alaska.

(A) it is estimated that the wolf has declined to 200,000 in 57 countries, some

(B) the wolf is estimated to have declined to 200,000 in 57 countries, with approximately

(C) the wolf has declined to an estimate of 200,000 in 57 countries, some

(D) wolves have declined to an estimate of 200,000 in 57 countries, with approximately

(E) wolves have declined to an estimated 200,000 in 57 countries, some

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IMO, correct answer is E.
Though B is close but has awkward construction estimated to have


B cannot be correct as we need a plural noun (wolves) instead of singular (the wolf ). You can see 'them' in the last part of the sentence.
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I am left with d and e but wondering how e is correct.
Confused why with approximately is wrong compared to d
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+1 for option E. The main decision points are - modifiers, pronouns , & meaning.

1) Use them in non underlined part to arrive at the conclusion that it is wolves and not wolf.
2) The modifier in the first part of the sentence has to modify wolves.
3) Non underlined portion in the later part of the sentence modifies countries

Option E it is !!
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Hi GMATNinja

I don't understand the role and meaning of a part in the middle: [some 11,000 of them]-clearly noun phrase [to be found-?] [in the lower 48 United States and Alaska]-prepositional phrase

It's not a noun, it is not the purpose (adverb), and it's not a verb (otherwise this part couldn't be an absolute phrase). Is it adjective?

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I don't understand the role and meaning of a part in the middle: [some 11,000 of them]-clearly noun phrase [to be found-?] [in the lower 48 United States and Alaska]-prepositional phrase

It's not a noun, it is not the purpose (adverb), and it's not a verb (otherwise this part couldn't be an absolute phrase). Is it adjective?

Thank you.

This feels like a good time to make a public service announcement regarding the usefulness of learning esoteric grammatical terms. While this can be a good way to impress (or annoy?) your friends at dinner parties, it's not necessarily a great way to study for the GMAT. You can kick all sorts of butt on SC without knowing the difference between an adverbial and an adjectival modifier, for example. And I still haven't figured out why I should care about the difference between complex and simple gerunds.

But yes, it’s perfectly reasonable to think about “to be found” the same way you would any modifying phrase. Just ask yourself what the phrase is describing: “The mongoose, known to be found in warm climates, is a delightful creature.” What is known to be found in warm climates? The mongoose. Anything that describes a noun is basically functioning as an adjective.

Is it terribly useful to know that "to be found" is an adjectival phrase comprised of an infinitive and a participle and that such a construction can be contained within an absolute phrase? Not really. (For the record: the first sentence of this paragraph makes my own eyes bleed slightly.) Those are just technical terms for concepts we understand intuitively. Our brains are wired to understand language without using obscure labels.

And your question reveals that you already understood what role "to be found" was playing. You were more confused about the terminology, and there's no reason to be terribly concerned about that.

I hope that helps. (And I'm waving in your general direction from Long Island City as I write this!)
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I hope that helps. (And I'm waving in your general direction from Long Island City as I write this!)


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Once numbering in the millions worldwide, it is estimated that the wolf has declined to 200,000 in 57 countries, some 11,000 of them to be found in the lower 48 United States and Alaska.

(A) it is estimated that the wolf has declined to 200,000 in 57 countries, some

(B) the wolf is estimated to have declined to 200,000 in 57 countries, with approximately

(C) the wolf has declined to an estimate of 200,000 in 57 countries, some

(D) wolves have declined to an estimate of 200,000 in 57 countries, with approximately

(E) wolves have declined to an estimated 200,000 in 57 countries, some

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A- Preceding clause is a modifier, thus we need a noun which is wolf to be the subject.
B and C are wrong since the following clause uses "them"
D - I do not think "estmate of 200k" is correct.

E is our answer.
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The wolf can't decline but wolves can..* population/ group.
Hence D and E stand out.
Some - elegant.
with approximately - Wordy.
Furthermore, The wording estimation of something. .. is unidiomatic here.
estimated 10K is better and elegant.

Answer is E.
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I did not understand the difference between D and E.
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My two cents:
Choices A,B and C are incorrect for obvious reasons: ‘Them’ in the non-underlined modifier at the end requires a plural antecedent.
That leaves Choices D and E as contenders.
IMO, there could be three reasons for choosing E over D
1) D- Wolves have declined to an estimate: “To an estimate”, as an object phrase of the sentence, does not makes sense with S+V “Wolves have declined”.
E- Wolves have declined to an estimated + figure: “an estimated” is acting as an adjective to object noun (to 200,000) and remaining S+V+O makes perfect sense “Wolves have declined to 200,000”

2) E- Subgroup Modifier “Some of them” is a correct and commonly used construction in GMAT SC.
D- ,+With mostly acts as a full clause modifier. Hence, the modifier must make sense with the subject. Choice D can be reduced to “wolves have declined, with approximately 11,000 of them”. IMO, this is murkier than E.

3) Not sure about this one, but in D, use of “estimate” with “approximate” could be classified as Redundancy error.
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