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The Anasazi settlements at Chaco Canyon were built on a spectacular scale with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were connected by a complex regional system of roads.

(A) with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were
(B) with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each,
(C) of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms, each that had been
(D) of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms and with each
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In keeping with some of our other recent QOTDs (see all of the 2017 QOTDs here), this one is mostly about meaning, and mechanical grammar rules won’t get you all that far. Good times.

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A. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were

What the heck is that final “were” doing there? “The Anasazi settlements… were built on a spectacular scale… of up to 600 rooms each, were connected…” At the very least, we need an “and” before that “were” to connect it to the subject of the sentence. (A) is out.

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B. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each,

I guess this is OK. It’s just a series of modifiers, all of which make sense: “of up to 600 rooms each” modifies the “75 carefully engineered structures”, and “connected by a complex regional system of roads” modifies that whole chunk that comes before it “75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms each.” It feels a little bit awkward, but that doesn’t matter. Keep (B).

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C. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms, each that had been

There are a couple of issues with the last chunk of the sentence. I don’t think it makes sense to say “each” had been connected. It’s subtle, but that phrase suggests that they’re connected individually, and that makes no sense.

The verb tense “had been” is also a problem. Why would we say “were built” (simple past) and then “had been connected” (past perfect), when the two actions presumably happened at around the same time? At the very least, the structures definitely weren’t connected before they even existed. (C) is gone.

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D. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms and with each

Again, there’s a meaning problem with the “each.” This is basically saying that the structures (or maybe the rooms?) are individually connected. It would be fine to say that ALL of them were connected, but “each”? That doesn’t make sense.

I’m also not sold on the use of “and with” here. I’m not certain that it’s wrong, but the “and” would indicate parallelism, and that gives us “The (settlements) were built on a spectacular scale of more than 75 carefully engineered structures… and with each connected by (roads).” That’s odd: I don’t think those two prepositional phrases have any good reason to be parallel to each other.

We can argue about the parallelism thing, but (B) is far clearer and cleaner than (D).

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E. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms each had been

This has the same problems as (C), but with a comma removed to make it even more confusing. (E) is out, and (B) is correct.
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The Anasazi settlements at Chaco Canyon were built on a spectacular scale with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were connected by a complex regional system of roads.

A. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were
B. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each,
C. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms, each that had been
D. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms and with each
E. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms each had been

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Hi....

Issues related to the Word..
1) 'structures' is further modified by the prepositional phrase " of....each" .
2) the comma after the prepositional phrase should speak about verb related to structure and here it should be 'connected'.
3) with is the correct word used.

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The Anasazi settlements at Chaco Canyon were built on a spectacular scale with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were connected by a complex regional system of roads.

A. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were -"were" is not required. we just need to say that "Canyon had more than 75 structures connected by system of roads."
B. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, -Correct
C. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms, each that had been -"spectacular scale of more than 75 structures" doesn't seem correct. The Chaco Canyon was built on a very large scale consisting of more than 75 structures. Thus, the opening words of this option aren't correct. Also, this option is depicting that each of 600 rooms were interconnected by a system of roads; this thought is nonsensical.
D. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms and with each -Opening words of this option are wrong as per the explanation in option C.
E. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms each had been -Opening words of this option are wrong as per the explanation in option C.
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The Anasazi settlements at Chaco Canyon were built on a spectacular scale with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were connected by a complex regional system of roads.

A. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were
B. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each,
C. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms, each that had been
D. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms and with each
E. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms each had been

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Hi....

Issues related to the Word..
1) 'structures' is further modified by the prepositional phrase " of....each" .
2) the comma after the prepositional phrase should speak about verb related to structure and here it should be 'connected'.
3) with is the correct word used.

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The Anasazi settlements at Chaco Canyon were built on a spectacular scale with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were connected by a complex regional system of roads.

A. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were --- it is clear that this simple sentence is riddled with two verbs namely 'were built' and 'were connected' without a proper conjugation. This is double verbing and out

B. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, ---Now that the double verbing is gone, let us come back to this a while later.

C. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms, each that had been -- it is absurd to say that the 75 structures had been interconnected before they were constructed. Therefore this is out.

D. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms and with each --- comma plus with each is a phrase. This not parallel with the previous IC and We may call it either unparallel or the second part a fragment

E. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms each had been-- here is a fused sentence, the first with were constructed, and the second with had been connected( we already know 'had been' is wrong)

Now let's go back to B, the structure is a simple sentence with an underlined 'comma plus ed modifier' at the end. perfect foil

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The Anasazi settlements at Chaco Canyon were built on a spectacular scale with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were connected by a complex regional system of roads.

A. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were
B. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each,
C. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms, each that had been
D. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms and with each
E. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms each had been

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Split 1
We need a descriptive phrase,participle clause after comma or and independent clause with FANBOYS conjunction.

Split 2
The original sentence has were at the end of the underlined part , but it has each before were therefore the sentence has Subject verb error .

Split 3

This original sentence is not connected by the conjunction it give us comma splice error or run on
The original idea is that Anasazi settlements at Chaco Canyon were built on a spectacular scale with more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms each . we see that each can not not be the subject of the clause starting after each as this each is part of the previous phrase and act as object . So we need a full independent clause of a participle clause modifying previous clause .

So the answer is B

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The Anasazi settlements at Chaco Canyon were built on a spectacular scale with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were connected by a complex regional system of roads.

A. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were
B. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each,
C. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms, each that had been
D. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms and with each
E. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms each had been

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Firstly, thank you for your explanation, I really appriciate that. But i have question ralted to Subgroup question.
For this question, the OG explain in answer C that " The comma preceding each make each a subject, but is has no verb, since that is the subject of had been connected". BUt what if it could be the SUBGROUP MODIFIER as the sentence following in Manhattan:
This model explains all known subatomic particles, SOME only recently discovered.
or "This model explains all known subatomic particles, SOME OF THEM only recently discovered"
I acknowledge that answer C makes no sense but the official explanation make me confused.
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Firstly, thank you for your explanation, I really appriciate that. But i have question ralted to Subgroup question.
For this question, the OG explain in answer C that " The comma preceding each make each a subject, but is has no verb, since that is the subject of had been connected". BUt what if it could be the SUBGROUP MODIFIER as the sentence following in Manhattan:
This model explains all known subatomic particles, SOME only recently discovered.
or "This model explains all known subatomic particles, SOME OF THEM only recently discovered"
I acknowledge that answer C makes no sense but the official explanation make me confused.
Please clarify! :)

Yeah... I have no idea what the OG is talking about there. Keep in mind that the people who wrote the OG explanations are NOT the same people that wrote the questions. In most cases, the OG questions were produced years -- or even decades -- before they appeared publicly in the OGs, so whoever writes the explanations often doesn't know what the question-writer intended. And sometimes you just get incoherent messes as a result.

I think you might also be asking whether it's possible to have a subgroup modifier -- or an absolute phrase -- beginning with "each." Sure, that's entirely possible in theory, it's just that the meaning doesn't make sense in this case. Here's an example that might help: https://gmatclub.com/forum/qotd-naked-m ... 39472.html.

But don't worry too much about those OG explanations if you don't find them helpful. Some of them are awesome. Others are putrid. :|
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The Anasazi settlements at Chaco Canyon were built on a spectacular scale with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were connected by a complex regional system of roads.

A. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were
B. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each,
C. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms, each that had been
D. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms and with each
E. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms each had been

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choice a is a run-on - it tries to have two main verbs without using any sort of subordinating element. if you take out modifiers, adjectives, etc., you're left with the following: the settlements were built with structures were connected. that's bad.

choice b is correct: it uses a nonessential modifier set off by commas ('of up to 600 rooms each'), which, if eliminated, yields the intact and legitimate sentence ...carefully engineered structures, connected by... (with another nonessential modifier).

choice c:
- 'scale of' doesn't make sense
- you can't say 'each that had...' (can't follow 'each' with a relative pronoun - if you're going to use a relative pronoun, it has to come directly after the thing it's trying to modify)
- no justification for using the past perfect ('had been') - that verb, if there's a verb there at all, should be in the simple past (the same tense as everything else in the sentence, because everything described in the sentence is contemporaneous)
- it doesn't make sense to use 'each' AFTER the comma, because it's not true that each structure was connected with a road system. instead, the road system connected all of the structures with each other, which is nowhere close to the same thing. (having 'each' BEFORE the comma makes sense, because it's actually true that each of the structures comprised up to 600 rooms.)
analogy:
the USA comprises 50 states, each of which is united by a federal government --> wrong (the implication is that each state has its own federal government)
the USA comprises 50 states, all of which are united by a federal government --> correct
the USA comprises 50 states, (all) united by a federal government --> correct, whether you have 'all' or not

choice d:
- 'scale of' doesn't make sense
- the use of AND sets up ostensible parallelism, but the two structures given aren't parallel (one starts with of and the other with with)

choice e is also a run-on sentence (you'll see this if you reduce it to its 'skeleton', a la choice a)
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The Anasazi settlements at Chaco Canyon were built on a spectacular scale with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were connected by a complex regional system of roads.

A. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were --- it is clear that this simple sentence is riddled with two verbs namely 'were built' and 'were connected' without a proper conjugation. This is double verbing and out

B. with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, ---Now that the double verbing is gone, let us come back to this a while later.

C. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms, each that had been -- it is absurd to say that the 75 structures had been interconnected before they were constructed. Therefore this is out.

D. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms and with each --- comma plus with each is a phrase. This not parallel with the previous IC and We may call it either unparallel or the second part a fragment

E. of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms each had been-- here is a fused sentence, the first with were constructed, and the second with had been connected( we already know 'had been' is wrong)

Now let's go back to B, the structure is a simple sentence with an underlined 'comma plus ed modifier' at the end. perfect foil



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The Anasazi settlements at Chaco Canyon were built on a spectacular scale with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were connected by a complex regional system of roads.

(A) with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were
(B) with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each,
(C) of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms, each that had been
(D) of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms and with each
(E) of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms each had been





of more X modify the word previous to -of.

spectacular scale of more than 75 carefully engineered structures : Awkward construction So c ,d, e : incorrect

A vs B

Issue with option A
The Anasazi settlements at Chaco Canyon were built on a spectacular scale with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were connected by a complex regional system of roads.

Correcting issue with A :

were"with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, and were"

As no error mentioned above present in B so B is the right option.
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The Anasazi settlements at Chaco Canyon were built on a spectacular scale with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were connected by a complex regional system of roads.

(A) with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were
(B) with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each,
(C) of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms, each that had been
(D) of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms and with each
(E) of more than 75 carefully engineered structures of up to 600 rooms each had been





of more X modify the word previous to -of.

spectacular scale of more than 75 carefully engineered structures : Awkward construction So c ,d, e : incorrect

A vs B

Issue with option A
The Anasazi settlements at Chaco Canyon were built on a spectacular scale with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, were connected by a complex regional system of roads.

Correcting issue with A :

were"with more than 75 carefully engineered structures, of up to 600 rooms each, and were"

As no error mentioned above present in B so B is the right option.
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Just a question. The answer choices begin either with 'with more' or with 'of more'. Can any of them be eliminated by grammatical error (big 6) or on the basis of other problems?
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