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Ramón pointed out that food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins.

(A) fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins
(B) fiber in addition to vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses
(C) fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses, along with vegetables and lean proteins
(D) fiber, vegetables, and lean proteins creates the energy we need to fight illnesses
(E) fiber, as vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses


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Meaning is crucial to solving this problem:
Understanding the intended meaning of the sentence is key to solving this question; the intended core meaning is that food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses, and vegetables and lean proteins do so as well.

Concepts tested here: Subject-Verb Agreement + Meaning

• “like” is used for comparing nouns; “as” is used for comparing actions/clauses; “such as” is used for giving examples.

A: Correct. This answer choice correctly refers to the singular noun “food” with the singular verb “creates”. Further, Option A uses the phrase “as do vegetables and lean proteins”, conveying the intended meaning – that food high in whole-grain fiber, vegetables, and lean proteins all produce the energy we need to fight illness. Additionally, Option A correctly uses “as” to compare the clauses “food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses” and “do vegetables and lean proteins”.

B: This answer choice incorrectly refers to the singular noun “food” with the plural verb “create”.

C: This answer choice alters the meaning of the sentence through the phrase “along with vegetables and lean proteins“; the construction of this phrase illogically implies that food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses and fight vegetables and lean proteins; the intended meaning is that food high in whole-grain fiber, vegetables, and lean proteins all produce the energy we need to fight illness.

D: This answer choice incorrectly refers to the plural noun phrase “food high in whole-grain fiber, vegetables, and lean proteins” with the singular verb “creates”.

E: This answer choice incorrectly refers to the singular noun “food” with the plural verb “create”. Further, Option E incorrectly uses “as” to compare the noun phrases “food high in whole-grain fiber” and “vegetables and lean proteins”; please remember, “like” is used for comparing nouns; “as” is used for comparing actions/clauses; “such as” is used for giving examples.

Hence, A is the best answer choice.

To understand the concept of "Like" vs "As" on GMAT, you may want to watch the following video (~2 minutes):



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Ramón pointed out that food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins.

A. fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins
B. fiber in addition to vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses
C. fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses, along with vegetables and lean proteins
D. fiber, vegetables, and lean proteins creates the energy we need to fight illnesses
E. fiber, as vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses


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Could anyone explain why not C?
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Ramón pointed out that food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins.

A. fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins
B. fiber in addition to vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses
C. fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses, along with vegetables and lean proteins
D. fiber, vegetables, and lean proteins creates the energy we need to fight illnesses
E. fiber, as vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses


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Could anyone explain why not C?


... food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses, along with vegetables and lean proteins.

This is like saying "food creates the energy we need to fight X, along with Y and Z". That is, the energy to fight vegetables and lean proteins. And while many people may feel the need to fight vegetables, that is not the intended meaning. :)
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I do not understand why option B is wrong?

in the construction of A ; i did not understand the highlighted part? fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnessesas do vegetables and lean proteins why and where all do '-' usage is done , ? what does it emphasise?

daagh ; in option B ; fiber in addition to vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses ; the verb 'create' is plural but the subject which we have
food is singular , my question is isnt that the inclusion of the sentence in addition to vegetables and lean proteins makes subject plural?



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Ramón pointed out that food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins.

A. fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins
B. fiber in addition to vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses
C. fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses, along with vegetables and lean proteins
D. fiber, vegetables, and lean proteins creates the energy we need to fight illnesses
E. fiber, as vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses


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Originally posted by Archit3110 on 28 Apr 2019, 01:41.
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I do not understand why option B is wrong?

in the construction of A ; i did not understand the highlighted part? fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnessesas do vegetables and lean proteins why and where all do '-' usage is done , ? what does it emphasise?

daagh ; in option B ; fiber in addition to vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses ; the verb 'create' is plural but the subject which we have
fiber is singular , my question is isnt that the inclusion of the sentence in addition to vegetables and lean proteins makes subject plural?

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Ramón pointed out that food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins.

A. fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins
B. fiber in addition to vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses
C. fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses, along with vegetables and lean proteins
D. fiber, vegetables, and lean proteins creates the energy we need to fight illnesses
E. fiber, as vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses


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Hi Archit3110

Fibre isn't the subject. "Food" is the subject which is also singular as its a collective noun

Only "AND" converts a subject to plural and any other conjunctions like "together with", "In addition to", "Along with" don't alter modularity of the subject
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i did a typo while mentioning fiber , edited...
i understand your point , but can you highlight or share your opinion on the usage of '-' in a sentence?
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I do not understand why option B is wrong?

in the construction of A ; i did not understand the highlighted part? fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnessesas do vegetables and lean proteins why and where all do '-' usage is done , ? what does it emphasise?

daagh ; in option B ; fiber in addition to vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses ; the verb 'create' is plural but the subject which we have
fiber is singular , my question is isnt that the inclusion of the sentence in addition to vegetables and lean proteins makes subject plural?

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Ramón pointed out that food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins.

A. fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins
B. fiber in addition to vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses
C. fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses, along with vegetables and lean proteins
D. fiber, vegetables, and lean proteins creates the energy we need to fight illnesses
E. fiber, as vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses


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Hi Archit3110

Fibre isn't the subject. "Food" is the subject which is also singular as its a collective noun

Only "AND" converts a subject to plural and any other conjunctions like "together with", "In addition to", "Along with" don't alter modularity of the subject
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The word 'in addition to' is an additive. (other additives are with, along with, as well as, together with, added with,) Additives do not change the number of the subject. Therefore 'creates' is the correct verb.
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Ramón pointed out that food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins.


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(D) fiber, vegetables, and lean proteins creates the energy we need to fight illnesses--- The list is a compound plural noun comprising three items such as 1. Food high in fiber, 2. vegetables and 3. lean proteins. Hence the verb should also be plural 'create' and not singular 'creates'


With due respect to your analysis of PoE, in D the subtle intent of comparison is lost.

Quote:
Ramón pointed out that food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins.

Ramón pointed out
that
food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins.

The sentence compares the energy we derive from food high in whole-grain fiber
to one created from vegetables and lean proteins.

I can safely take do as a sort of pronoun, but it refers back to action verb- creates.
Since after dash, we have - as: we need a clause. Since we have vegetables and proteins as plural subjects,
this clause takes plural verb- do.

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I can safely take do as a sort of pronoun, but it refers back to action verb- creates.
Since after dash, we have - as: we need a clause. Since we have vegetables and proteins as plural subjects,
this clause takes plural verb- do.
You're right. The do is plural because its subject (vegetables and lean proteins) is plural.

Maybe this post could be useful.
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Hi Expert,

I have a question.

In D, can I interpret "fiber , vegetables and protein" as a list of three components.
That is, food high in fiber ,(high in) vegetables , and (high in) protein.

If this is the case, D is correct?

Please explain.

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Ramón pointed out that food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins.

A. fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins
B. fiber in addition to vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses
C. fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses, along with vegetables and lean proteins
D. fiber, vegetables, and lean proteins creates the energy we need to fight illnesses
E. fiber, as vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses


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Ramón pointed out that food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins.

(A) fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins --- The best answer keeping correct SV agreement

(B) fiber in addition to vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses ---- Verb 'create' is an SV error
(C) fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses, along with vegetables and lean proteins -- along with vegetable is a distortion
(D) fiber, vegetables, and lean proteins creates the energy we need to fight illnesses--- The list is a compound plural noun comprising three items such as 1. Food high in fiber, 2. vegetables and 3. lean proteins. Hence the verb should also be plural 'create' and not singular 'creates'.

(E) fiber, as vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses --- create is an SV error as in B.


Sir, in B, isnt ' in addition to' changing the intended meaning
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In D, can I interpret "fiber , vegetables and protein" as a list of three components.
That is, food high in fiber ,(high in) vegetables , and (high in) protein.

Hi ballest127, of course this is the meaning that D conveys. So, D conveys that the energy we need to fight illnesses, is created by food that is high in three things simultaneously:
i) whole-grain fiber
ii) vegetables and
iii) lean proteins

However, this completely changes the meaning of the original sentence. The original sentence conveys that food high in whole-grain fiber alone creates the energy we need to fight illnesses; similarly, vegetables alone and lean proteins alone also create the energy we need to fight illnesses.
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In B, there is a lurking SV error. Considering the meaning aspect in such clear - cut cases is a colossal waste of time during the pressure -cooker heat of the hall. Meaning does have a place in GMAT but not in this case. This view is from a GMAT SC tutor and not from an English tutor.
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Ramón pointed out that food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins.

A. fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins
B. fiber in addition to vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses
C. fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses, along with vegetables and lean proteins
D. fiber, vegetables, and lean proteins creates the energy we need to fight illnesses
E. fiber, as vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses


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I was between A & B. Could anyone explain the comparison we have between food / vegetables and lean protein in option A? I didn't mark it because I thought the comparison was between nouns (food vs. vegetables & lean protein) and would therefore require a "like" instead of "as". Can anyone clarify?
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I was between A & B. Could anyone explain the comparison we have between food / vegetables and lean protein in option A? I didn't mark it because I thought the comparison was between nouns (food vs. vegetables & lean protein) and would therefore require a "like" instead of "as". Can anyone clarify?
This is the sentence that option B leads to:

Ramón pointed out that food high in whole-grain fiber in addition to vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses.

Let's ignore the comma after proteins for now. When we see X in addition to Y + [verb], the Y has no effect on the subject (X), so the verb needs to be singular if X is singular, and it needs to be be plural if X is plural. In this option, food (the subject) is singular, but its verb create is plural.

The as in A is used to show us a similarity between the part before the dash and the part after the dash. For example:

She studies mathematics every evening, as does her brother.

This means that they both study mathematics every evening.
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Bunuel wrote:
Ramón pointed out that food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins.

A. fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins
B. fiber in addition to vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses
C. fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses, along with vegetables and lean proteins
D. fiber, vegetables, and lean proteins creates the energy we need to fight illnesses
E. fiber, as vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses


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Ramón pointed out that food high in whole-grain fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins.


(A) fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses—as do vegetables and lean proteins --- The best answer keeping correct SV agreement

(B) fiber in addition to vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses ---- Verb 'create' is an SV error
(C) fiber creates the energy we need to fight illnesses, along with vegetables and lean proteins -- along with vegetable is a distortion
(D) fiber, vegetables, and lean proteins creates the energy we need to fight illnesses--- The list is a compound plural noun comprising three items such as 1. Food high in fiber, 2. vegetables and 3. lean proteins. Hence the verb should also be plural 'create' and not singular 'creates'.

(E) fiber, as vegetables and lean proteins, create the energy we need to fight illnesses --- create is an SV error as in B.


daagh Sir, Why aren't we considering the verb "pointed" instead of "creates" that can fill the place for the verb, "do" in "as do vegetables and lean proteins"?
Although the ellipse I have mentioned above does not make sense, is it the same reason that we are not talking about ambiguity here?
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daagh Sir, Why aren't we considering the verb "pointed" instead of "creates" that can fill the place for the verb, "do" in "as do vegetables and lean proteins"?
Although the ellipse I have mentioned above does not make sense, is it the same reason that we are not talking about ambiguity here?


Ramon of course being a human being 'pointed out' something. To match that past tense, can we say the vegetable and lean proteins pointed out something. Can these two items point out anything at all?
In addition, if you want to match the past tense 'pointed', then you may have to say 'as did' vegetables and lean proteins. Can we denote ever- occurring ubiquitous things in past tense?
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