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Right triangle PQR is to be constructed in the xyplane so that the right angle is at P and PR is parallel to the xaxis. The x and ycoordinates of P, Q and R are to be integers that satisfy the inequalities 4<=x<=5 and 6<=y<=16. How many different triangles with these properties could be constructed? A. 110 B. 1100 C. 9900 D. 10000 E. 12100 OPEN DISCUSSION OF THIS QUESTION IS HERE: righttrianglepqristobeconstructedinthexyplaneso71597.html
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Quick note: "[ u]<[/u] yields <," so this looks a little cleaner:
haas_mba07 wrote: Right triangle PQR is to be constructed in the xyplane so that the right angle is at P and PR is parallel to the xaxis. The x and ycoordinates of P, Q and R are to be integers that satisfy the inequalities 4 < x < 5 and 6 < y < 16. How many different triangles with these properties could be constructed?
A. 110 B. 1100 C. 9900 D. 10000 E. 12100
This is a tricky question posed by the OP, so this may be a tricky response. ^^ What I initially did was get a blank sheet of paper and make a 11 (tall) x 10 (wide) grid of dots.
Go on, you do it too.
...
Ready?
The lower left point is (4, 6) and the upper right is (5, 16).
Start by placing P at (4, 6). You'll notice that if you fix R at (3, 6) you can create 10 unique triangles by placing Q's at (4, 7) to (4, 16).
Now place P at (4, 6) again. Fix Q at (4, 7) and you can get 9 unique triangles by placing R's at (3, 6) through (5, 6).
If you place P at (3, 6), you can get 10 unique Q's and 8 unique R's. Go through (4, 6) and you'd have 10 Q's and 1 R.
If you place P at (4, 7), you can get 9 unique Q's and 9 unique R's. Go through (4, 15) and you'd have 1 Q and 9 R.
The point is, the pattern of this methodology yields (10 + 9 + ... + 2 + 1) * (9 + 8 + ... + 2 + 1) triangles. However, those only extend up and right. because triangles can exist in four different ways (up/right, up/left, down/left, down/right), your final calculation should be:
(10 + 9 + ... + 2 + 1) * (9 + 8 + ... + 2 + 1) * 4
55 * 45 * 4
2,475 * 4
9,900
So I'm sticking with C.
Note that 9,900 = 11 * 10 * 9, so there's probably an easier way to do this, and by probably, I mean I hope so because this solution was thorough but sloooooooooow.

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Innovative way of solving..
Thanks for the [ u]<[/u] tip...
As for time, this one took quite some time for me... but once you get the trick it is easier.
I'll wait for some more answers before posting OA...
Zoelef wrote: Quick note: "[ u]<[/u] yields <," so this looks a little cleaner: haas_mba07 wrote: Right triangle PQR is to be constructed in the xyplane so that the right angle is at P and PR is parallel to the xaxis. The x and ycoordinates of P, Q and R are to be integers that satisfy the inequalities 4 < x < 5 and 6 < y < 16. How many different triangles with these properties could be constructed?
A. 110 B. 1100 C. 9900 D. 10000 E. 12100
This is a tricky question posed by the OP, so this may be a tricky response. ^^ What I initially did was get a blank sheet of paper and make a 11 (tall) x 10 (wide) grid of dots. Go on, you do it too. ... Ready? The lower left point is (4, 6) and the upper right is (5, 16). Start by placing P at (4, 6). You'll notice that if you fix R at (3, 6) you can create 10 unique triangles by placing Q's at (4, 7) to (4, 16). Now place P at (4, 6) again. Fix Q at (4, 7) and you can get 9 unique triangles by placing R's at (3, 6) through (5, 6). If you place P at (3, 6), you can get 10 unique Q's and 8 unique R's. Go through (4, 6) and you'd have 10 Q's and 1 R. If you place P at (4, 7), you can get 9 unique Q's and 9 unique R's. Go through (4, 15) and you'd have 1 Q and 9 R. The point is, the pattern of this methodology yields (10 + 9 + ... + 2 + 1) * (9 + 8 + ... + 2 + 1) triangles. However, those only extend up and right. because triangles can exist in four different ways (up/right, up/left, down/left, down/right), your final calculation should be: (10 + 9 + ... + 2 + 1) * (9 + 8 + ... + 2 + 1) * 4 55 * 45 * 4 2,475 * 4 9,900 So I'm sticking with C. Note that 9,900 = 11 * 10 * 9, so there's probably an easier way to do this, and by probably, I mean I hope so because this solution was thorough but sloooooooooow.

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I also got 9900, but I approached like a combinatorics problem.
We know that P,Q, R can only lie on a grid 10x11
Let's start by fixing P' xcoordinate: we have 10 possible places for it
Then we choose xcoordinate for R: since PR  xaxis, R's xcoordinate can not coincide with P's xcoord, so we have only 9 possible choices left.
Then, we fix P's (and R's too) ycoordinate: 11 possible choices.
Finally, after we fixed P and R, Q's xcoordinate must be the same as P's (because P is the right angle and PR  xaxis), so the only choice is for ycoordinate, and we have 10 possible choices left.
So, total number of different triangles: 10*9*11*10=9,900
(C)
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I realized a quicker way driving to work today.
11 x 10 grid = 110 points
each point has 10 possible y's and 9 possible x's (going both ways; up/down or left/right)
11 * 10 * 10 * 9 = 9,900
Still (C), but with 400% more conciseness.

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Right triangle PQR is to be constructed in the xyplane so that the right angle is at P and PR is parallel to the xaxis. The x and ycoordinates of P, Q, and R are to be integers that satisfy the inequalities 4 < or= x < or = 5 and 6 < or= y < or = 16. How many different triangles with these properties could be constructed? (A) 110 (B) 1,100 (C) 9,900 (D) 10,000 (E) 12,100 OPEN DISCUSSION OF THIS QUESTION IS HERE: righttrianglepqristobeconstructedinthexyplaneso71597.html

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Total possible Orientations for Triangle = 4 Total possible values for x = 9*10/2 Total possible values for y = 10*11/2 Total possible values of xy = 9*10/2 * 10*11/2 = 9900/4 As there are 4 possible orientations so total possible triangle = 4*9900/4 = 9900 This is an OG problem, so you can refer its solution as well. Please find the attached document to see the possible orientations.

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abhijit_sen wrote: Total possible Orientations for Triangle = 4 Total possible values for x = 9*10/2 Total possible values for y = 10*11/2 Total possible values of xy = 9*10/2 * 10*11/2 = 9900/4 As there are 4 possible orientations so total possible triangle = 4*9900/4 = 9900 This is an OG problem, so you can refer its solution as well. Please find the attached document to see the possible orientations. ca you explain why x=9*10/2 probability of understanding probability is less
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spriya wrote: ca you explain why x=9*10/2 probability of understanding probability is less x can have 9 possible with 1 unit length. x can have 8 possible with 2 unit length. x can have 7 possible with 3 unit length. . . . x can have 1 possible with 9 unit length. Similarly y will have its own case. Hope this helps.

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abhijit_sen wrote: spriya wrote: ca you explain why x=9*10/2 probability of understanding probability is less x can have 9 possible with 1 unit length. x can have 8 possible with 2 unit length. x can have 7 possible with 3 unit length. . . . x can have 1 possible with 9 unit length. Similarly y will have its own case. Hope this helps. I got to work hard in probability
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number of ways point P can be selected = 100 ( x can be anything from 4 to 5 (including) and y can be anything from 6 to 16(including)) number of ways point R can be selected = 9 (the y coorodinate will be same as P and we can choses x coordinate in 9 different ways) number of ways point Q can be selected = 11 (the x coorodinate will be same as P and we can choses y coordinate in 11 different ways)
total number of triangles = 100*9*11 = 9900

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For the rt triange PQR, we will have same Ycorodinate value for point R and P and same Xcoordinate value for point Q and P.
So Total possible values for X = ( number of ways X can be selected for point R) * ( number ways X can be selected for point Q and P ) = 10 * 9 ( as Q and R will have same Xcoordinate and will be different than that of R ) =90
Similarly, total number of ways for selecting Y = 11* 10 =110
So, total combination = 110 * 90 = 9900

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judokan wrote: Right triangle PQR is to be constructed in the xyplane so that the right angle is at P and PR is parallel to the xaxis. The x and ycoordinates of P, Q, and R are to be integers that satisfy the inequalities 4 < or= x < or = 5 and 6 < or= y < or = 16. How many different triangles with these properties could be constructed?
(A) 110 (B) 1,100 (C) 9,900 (D) 10,000 (E) 12,100 P can be chosen from 11*10 points and Q can be chosen from 10 points and R from 9 points Answer = 11*10*10*9 = 9900

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I understand the solution given, but doesn't that solution count multiple identical triangles as "different"? That is, we are making a right triangle, so we should only need to worry about the lengths of the two legs. Given the possible x coordinates, there should be 9 possible lengths for PR (1..9). Given the possible y coordinates, there should be 10 possible lengths for PQ (1..10).
The solution provided doesn't give us the number of unique right triangles with integer lengths but instead the total number of unique triangles * the total possible arrangements in the given area for each.
Am I just way off and the wording of the question should have made me understand that we're also looking for unique positions of congruent triangle?

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Zoelef wrote: I realized a quicker way driving to work today.
11 x 10 grid = 110 points
each point has 10 possible y's and 9 possible x's (going both ways; up/down or left/right)
11 * 10 * 10 * 9 = 9,900
Still (C), but with 400% more conciseness. How do you get a 11*10 grid ?

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Trying to explain the concept
Consider a grid with 3 points on X axis and 3 points on Y axis. Now right angle triangel is to be drawn such that one line is parallel to X axis. Just consider botton row of a grid with 3 points. Two points A and B can be selected from 3 points by 3C2 = 3 ways Now we have to select 3rd point from verticle line. We have 2 points available in line with point A and 2 points available in line with point B. So 3rd point C can be selected by (2 + 2) ways. So with bottom row of a grid we can draw 3 * (2 + 2) right angle triangles. But we have total 3 horizontal rows so total number of right angle triangel = (3 * (2 + 2)) * 3
Now consider given example where X point can be from 4 to 5 (total 10 points) and Y point can be from 6 to 16 (total 11 points)
Again consider just bottom row. Two points A and B can be selected from 3 points by 10C2 = 45 ways To select point C we have 10 points in line with A and 10 points in line with B. So total number of right angle triangles can be drawn from bottom row = 45 * (10 +10) but we have total 11 rows so total number of triangle = (45 * (10 + 10)*11 = 9900.
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