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The governor’s team of advisors, including her education and political strategists, has not been available for comment since the governor released her controversial education reform proposal.

(A) has not been available for comment since the governor released her controversial education reform proposal

(B) have not been available for comment since the governor released her controversial education reform proposal

(C) have not been available for comment since she released her proposal on controversial education reform

(D) has not been available for comment since she released her controversial education reform proposal

(E) has not been available to make comments since she released her proposal on controversial reform in education

Originally posted by ritula on 13 Feb 2009, 05:01.
Last edited by hazelnut on 24 Sep 2017, 00:44, edited 1 time in total.
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Tania,

It looks like you're not satisfied with the explanations of why "she" in E can't refer to "governor's." Let's try to make it a little more explicit:

Rule: On the GMAT, every pronoun must have a noun antecedent in that sentence. The antecedent need not appear before the pronoun, but it must be there in noun form.

In E: "she" is trying to refer back to the governor. Unfortunately, there is no noun form of "governor" in the sentence. Instead, we have "the governor's team of advisors" where the word "governor" is in the possessive tense and serving to modify the subject of the sentence: team.

Other examples of this "possessive poison" error:

"I bought Jose's birthday present yesterday, but I never got an invitation to his party." --> Here "his" is trying to refer to "Jose" but cannot legally do so. Fix: "I bought Jose a birthday present yesterday, but I never got an invitation to his party."

"Nobody knows why he dresses this way, but Steve's signature wardrobe is a black turtleneck with jeans and tennis shoes." Again, "he" is trying to refer to "Steve" but cannot do so because "Steve" is not present in the sentence as a noun.

That help?

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New post 13 Feb 2009, 10:06
'she' has to refer back to a noun. There is no noun present

I'll go with A

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The governor’s team of advisors, including her education and political strategists, has not been available for comment since the governor released her controversial education reform proposal.

A. has not been available for comment since the governor released her controversial education reform proposal

B. have not been available for comment since the governor released her controversial education reform proposal

C. have not been available for comment since she released her proposal on controversial education reform

D. has not been available for comment since she released her controversial education reform proposal

E. has not been available to make comments since she released her proposal on controversial reform in education


My choice is A too, and below is my explanation:
In A, the singular subject in the original sentence, “the governor’s team” agrees with the singular verb phrase “has not been.”

B. have not been available for comment since the governor released her controversial education reform proposal - The subject-verb relationship is incorrect. The singular subject of the sentence, “the governor’s team,” does not agree with the plural verb phrase “have not been.”
C. have not been available for comment since she released her proposal on controversial education reform - Same as B. This sentence also changes the meaning because the phrasing “her proposal on controversial education reform” implies that the education reform is controversial.
D. has not been available for comment since she released her controversial education reform proposal - The subject pronoun “she” has no antecedent. The subject pronoun “she” cannot refer back to the possessive noun, “governor’s.” Only possessive pronouns, such as “her,” can refer to possessive nouns.
E. has not been available to make comments since she released her proposal on controversial reform in education - Same as D and Also, like in C, the phrasing “her proposal on controversial education reform” implies that the education reform is controversial. It is clear from the original sentence that, it is the governor’s proposal that is controversial and not the education reform itself. Finally, "for comment" is more concise than "to make comments".

Please let me know if that makes sense.
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We need singular verb "has" because of the singular noun "team"

that leaves A, D and E.

D and E uses "she" but "she" has no referent. "governor's team" is possesive noun and "she" cannot be used to refer to the possessive noun. We need proper noun "governor" which is correctly done in A.
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There is no requirement to use prepositions to make the sentence wordy.

For eg. prince sat on a gold throne OR prince sat on the throne of gold.

Sentence one is preferable, the structure S + V + ADJ + NOUN preferred over S + V + NOUN + prepositional phrase.

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New post 16 Feb 2013, 12:51
Hi guys,

I have seen this question on manhattan gmat and even though I got the correct answer but still was not really convinced by the use of the pronoun "her" to refer to the governor who is only present in the possessive "the governor's team". I also read this topic about this sentence where some people seem to believe it is a wrong usage :
http://gmatclub.com/forum/the-governors-team-of-advisors-including-her-education-and-75712.html?hilit=The%20governor%E2%80%99s%20team%20of%20advisors


Please can somebody convincingly give the final word on whether a pronouns which refers to an antecedent in the possessive form are accepted by the GMAT or not ? Thanks a lot!
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Hi guys,

I have seen this question on manhattan gmat and even though I got the correct answer but still was not really convinced by the use of the pronoun "her" to refer to the governor who is only present in the possessive "the governor's team". I also read this topic about this sentence where some people seem to believe it is a wrong usage :
http://gmatclub.com/forum/the-governors-team-of-advisors-including-her-education-and-75712.html?hilit=The%20governor%E2%80%99s%20team%20of%20advisors


Please can somebody convincingly give the final word on whether a pronouns which refers to an antecedent in the possessive form are accepted by the GMAT or not ? Thanks a lot!


Hi Darmody,

"her" is a possessive pronoun and it can refer to the possessive "governor's". If you consider the original sentence, the answer choice (A) uses "the governor" in the underlined part because "she" can not be used for a possessive noun "governor's"

The following sentence will be correct as per GMAT

The editor's team and his family went to the ceremony.

The following will not be correct

The editor's team accompanied him to the ceremony.

The following will be correct

The editor's team accompanied the editor and his family to the ceremony.

I hope it clears your doubt,

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New post 01 Jun 2017, 05:50
Hi GMATNinja ,

Here, In option E - available to make comments is grammatically correct or wrong ? . Just a general doubt.
I agree she is wrong in E.
I was just wondering if "available for comment" is better than "available to make comment " .Please throw some light here. :) .
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Hi GMATNinja ,

Here, In option E - available to make comments is grammatically correct or wrong ? . Just a general doubt.
I agree she is wrong in E.
I was just wondering if "available for comment" is better than "available to make comment " .Please throw some light here. :) .


"Available for comment" is the way somebody would typically say this, but I'm not 100% sure that "available to make comments" is necessarily wrong -- it would just be a little bit unusual to say it that way.

And I think it's very, very unlikely that you'll ever see this particular idiom in an actual GMAT question, so don't worry about it too much!
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New post 18 Aug 2018, 13:39
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Tania,

It looks like you're not satisfied with the explanations of why "she" in E can't refer to "governor's." Let's try to make it a little more explicit:

Rule: On the GMAT, every pronoun must have a noun antecedent in that sentence. The antecedent need not appear before the pronoun, but it must be there in noun form.

In E: "she" is trying to refer back to the governor. Unfortunately, there is no noun form of "governor" in the sentence. Instead, we have "the governor's team of advisors" where the word "governor" is in the possessive tense and serving to modify the subject of the sentence: team.

Other examples of this "possessive poison" error:

"I bought Jose's birthday present yesterday, but I never got an invitation to his party." --> Here "his" is trying to refer to "Jose" but cannot legally do so. Fix: "I bought Jose a birthday present yesterday, but I never got an invitation to his party."

"Nobody knows why he dresses this way, but Steve's signature wardrobe is a black turtleneck with jeans and tennis shoes." Again, "he" is trying to refer to "Steve" but cannot do so because "Steve" is not present in the sentence as a noun.

That help?

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Hello EducationAisle,
Is the issue - possessive poison : pronoun referring back to possessive - still unacceptable?
If its acceptable then I believe Option D would be correct.
Please let me know whether I am thinking correctly?

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Hi Tamal, I see that Brett posted this back in 2010.

Since then, GMAT does seem to have shown flexibility in this regard. There is at least one correct official example from more recent times (Although Elizabeth Barrett Browning's success was later overshadowed...) where the subject pronoun she only has a possessive noun to refer to.

So, while this usage is acceptable now, it might still be a good idea to keep such options as #2 and revisit such options if no better option is available.
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Hi, I think the phrase including her education and political strategists, shows the gender of the governor so can we not use she instead of she as in the option D. Can some one please explain
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