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I took the test a few day ago and fail on verbal, specifically on sc.

I am obsessed too much with grammar rules and do not focus on meaning.

this question is typical of sc thinking, meaning and logic.

I choose E here because it is most logic.

all other choice are wrong because meaning problem

because my english is enhanced already, I hope to fix verbal score in two month.

I think that the logic of sc and cr can be learn in a few months if the english of the test taker is enhanced alread

there are 2 problems for non native : english proficiency and skill on gmat. the first can be learn in 6 months, the second in 2 months. without the first, I can not learn the second
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can anyone explain what's wrong with option A?
"success of first landing on the moon" is much clearer than "first moon landing". Also, i have read somewhere that on gmat, "of something" is more preferred than " something's" . is it so?
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can anyone explain what's wrong with option A?
"success of first landing on the moon" is much clearer than "first moon landing". Also, i have read somewhere that on gmat, "of something" is more preferred than " something's" . is it so?


Hello grr8pe

Comma before -ing modifier means that modifier modify the whole clause.
In this sentence clause is
The success of the first landing on the moon emboldened some scientists to claim that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties entailed in such a feat.

So we received meaning: "Success ... emboldened ..., vastly underestimating the difficulties entailed in such a feat."
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The success of the first landing on the moon emboldened some scientists to claim that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties entailed in such a feat.

A) The success of the first landing on the moon emboldened some scientists to claim that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties entailed in such a feat.
B) Scientists, in vastly underestimating the difficulties of a Mars landing, were emboldened by the first moon landing to claim that such a feat was imminent.
C) The first moon landing success emboldened some scientists to claim that a Mars landing was imminent, a prediction in which the difficulties entailed in such a feat were underestimated.
D) Vastly underestimating the difficulties entailed in a Mars landing, scientists were emboldened by the moon landing to make such claims.
E) Emboldened by the success of the first moon landing, some scientists claimed that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties such a feat entails.




Can someone please explain opt C
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The success of the first landing on the moon emboldened some scientists to claim that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties entailed in such a feat.

A) The success of the first landing on the moon emboldened some scientists to claim that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties entailed in such a feat.
B) Scientists, in vastly underestimating the difficulties of a Mars landing, were emboldened by the first moon landing to claim that such a feat was imminent.
C) The first moon landing success emboldened some scientists to claim that a Mars landing was imminent, a prediction in which the difficulties entailed in such a feat were underestimated.
D) Vastly underestimating the difficulties entailed in a Mars landing, scientists were emboldened by the moon landing to make such claims.
E) Emboldened by the success of the first moon landing, some scientists claimed that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties such a feat entails.




Can someone please explain opt C


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C) The first moon landing success emboldened some scientists to claim that a Mars landing was imminent, a prediction in which the difficulties entailed in such a feat were underestimated.

The beginnings of phrase change original meaning: first moon landing success implies that were some moon landings and this was successful, but original meaning was: The success of the first landing: first landing - success.

difficulties underestimated - unneeded passive form

difficulties entailed in such feat I am not sure but think this is not correct or at least awkward form of saying: difficulties such a feat entails.
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Harley1980 wrote:
grr8pe wrote:
can anyone explain what's wrong with option A?
"success of first landing on the moon" is much clearer than "first moon landing". Also, i have read somewhere that on gmat, "of something" is more preferred than " something's" . is it so?


Hello grr8pe

Comma before -ing modifier means that modifier modify the whole clause.
In this sentence clause is
The success of the first landing on the moon emboldened some scientists to claim that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties entailed in such a feat.

So we received meaning: "Success ... emboldened ..., vastly underestimating the difficulties entailed in such a feat."



opt a - the success of landing on moon emboldened some scientist to claim... thus underestimating the difficulties... modifying everything before..i.e. success, emboldened,claim etc....

opt e - simply says - scientist emboldened by success, claimed .. thus underestimating the difficulties (result of claim)

please check my understanding here :|
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Let us consider two choices A and E.

A) The success of the first landing on the moon emboldened some scientists to claim that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties entailed in such a feat. --- here the previous clause is --- the success of the first landing on the moon emboldened --- and this is modified by—‘vastly underestimating …’ Please ask whether a success can underestimate! You can see why A is logically meaningless.

E) Emboldened by the success of the first moon landing, some scientists claimed that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties such a feat entails.

In E, the previous clause is--- some scientists claimed … --- the modifier modifies the scientists which is the subject of the previous clause and their action claimed --- and does so correctly


Hi,

Do we consider "Comma + Vastly underestimating" as "Comma + ING" modifier?
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Let us consider two choices A and E.

A) The success of the first landing on the moon emboldened some scientists to claim that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties entailed in such a feat. --- here the previous clause is --- the success of the first landing on the moon emboldened --- and this is modified by—‘vastly underestimating …’ Please ask whether a success can underestimate! You can see why A is logically meaningless.

E) Emboldened by the success of the first moon landing, some scientists claimed that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties such a feat entails.

In E, the previous clause is--- some scientists claimed … --- the modifier modifies the scientists which is the subject of the previous clause and their action claimed --- and does so correctly


Hi,

Do we consider "Comma + Vastly underestimating" as "Comma + ING" modifier?

Hi! Yes this is correct! This modifier modifies the clause preceeding it.
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Hi! =)

For (C), is it OK to say ", a prediction ..."?
"The first moon landing success emboldened some scientists to claim that a Mars landing was imminent, a prediction in which the difficulties entailed in such a feat were underestimated.
In this case I believe that "a prediction" is an appositive of "that a Mars landing was imminent," and "which was" is omitted here?
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C is closed but, "The first moon landing success" changes the meaning => C is definitely not the answer.
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Hello egmat , daagh

I remember coming across an example from e-gmat module:

Mary's father wants her to become a doctor, making a difference in people's lives

Here the modifier entity(making a difference in people's lives) and modified entity ("to become") have a common doer("Mary")

On similar lines in option A

modifier entity: underestimating the difficulties
modified entity: to become
doer: scientists

Still can't understand why A is wrong. Please help!!
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Hello egmat , daagh

I remember coming across an example from e-gmat module:

Mary's father wants her to become a doctor, making a difference in people's lives

Here the modifier entity(making a difference in people's lives) and modified entity ("to become") have a common doer("Mary")

On similar lines in option A

modifier entity: underestimating the difficulties
modified entity: to become
doer: scientists

Still can't understand why A is wrong. Please help!!


You won't belive, but I had the same thing in mind, cuz I remeber this case during my egmat course. Left with A and E, I chose E because it stresses "sientists" as a main doer of the action. Here scientists are "less passive". GMAT has tendency to like active voice over passive one.
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thangvietname hit the nail on its head. I think searching for the right meaning and the right splits effectively halves the time to search for mistakes. In this question, I was stuck between 2 choices but the meaning gave me the right solution. It is absolutely critical to be thinking about the meaning along with grammatical errors.
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Hi,

I have a doubt over here. Should not the comma + ING-Modifier should be modifying the most immediate clause? In the correct answer E, we have :

Emboldened by the success of the first moon landing, some scientists claimed that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties such a feat entails.

In the above case, the clause in the Bold should get modified, which is non-nonsensical in this case.


Hi mikemcgarry, AjiteshArun, egmat

Could you please clarify this doubt
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I have a doubt over here. Should not the comma + ING-Modifier should be modifying the most immediate clause? In the correct answer E, we have :

Emboldened by the success of the first moon landing, some scientists claimed that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties such a feat entails.

In the above case, the clause in the Bold should get modified, which is non-nonsensical in this case.


Hi mikemcgarry, AjiteshArun, egmat

Could you please clarify this doubt
Hi abhishekmayank,

The , -ing structure doesn't have to refer to the closest clause. It can, but it doesn't have to.
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The success of the first landing on the moon emboldened some scientists to claim that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties entailed in such a feat..


A) The success of the first landing on the moon emboldened some scientists to claim that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties entailed in such a feat.
emboldened should be closely linked with scucess as this was the reason for ubderestimating the difficulties of the Mars landing hence out

B) Scientists, in vastly underestimating the difficulties of a Mars landing, were emboldened by the first moon landing to claim that such a feat was imminent.
The comma after Scientists was unnecessary it makes the sentence akward and distorts the meaning

C) The first moon landing success emboldened some scientists to claim that a Mars landing was imminent, but the difficulties entailed in such a feat were underestimated
The comma before but isn't necessary since these are deppendent clauses they shouldn't be seperated with comma

D) Vastly underestimating the difficulties entailed in a Mars landing, scientists were emboldened by the moon landing to make such claims.
This isn't the intended meaning this tell us that the difficulties of the Mars mission embolded the scientist which is infact false

E) Emboldened by the success of the first moon landing, some scientists claimed that a Mars landing was imminent, vastly underestimating the difficulties such a feat entails
This is the intende meaning and the only option left so this should be the requisite answer
Therefore IMO E
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