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Contents of Option C are already in passage.

can C be the answer choice?

Awaitning OA
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Contents of Option C are already in passage.

can C be the answer choice?

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I am no expert, but let me give it a shot.

I concur with your observation but the statement is not exactly worded the way it is in premise.
Although it means the same, the statement if negated will weaken the argument. Also, no other option is relevant in our scenario.

Therefore, option "C" is the only viable solution here.

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Contents of Option C are already in passage.

can C be the answer choice?

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OA is C.
Let me try too:

This is what passage says:
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skiers who completed the course were just as likely to be involved in a collision as skiers who did not complete the course
This is what C says:
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Skiers who completed the course are no less likely to be involved in a collision than they would have been if they had not completed the course.

Difference:
Passage says that Skiers who completed the course were just as likely to be involved in collision as skiers who did not complete the course. Author assumes that even if only skiers who completed the course are allowed to ski, then too collisions would happen. This leads author to conclude the course is ineffective.

Another point:
For assumption questions try negating the answer choice (and say "then what?"), in a way assumption should help/support the passage
Lets do that:
(A) The skier safety courses could not be improved without substantially increasing the program's budget. Then what? Author says we are already wasting thousands of dollars. This can't be his point. This answer choice should be discarded immediately
(B) There are no other methods besides offering skier safety courses that are more effective in reducing the risk of skier collisions and injuries. So what? What are anyways discussing about the course in subject
(C) Skiers who completed the course are noless likely to be involved in a collision than they would have been if they had not completed the course.Oh. If they are less likely to get involved in a collision after the course, then the course is not ineffective. The negation is weakening the conclusion.
This is it. But lets see other answers too

(D) There is no a way to reduce the current costs of running the mountain safety courses.But it is still ineffective according to the author.
And reducing costs will still can't make it effective!

(E) Even though the courses are free, most skiers would prefer notto spend their time attending a safety course.This answer choice should be immediately discarded without taking effort to negate. Skiers prefer or not doesn't make the course less or more effective.


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(C) Skiers who completed the course are no less likely to be involved in a collision than they would have been if they had not completed the course.
The following sentence seemed to suggest that the courses are ineffective: "Skiers who completed the course (Group A) were just as likely to be involved in a collision as skiers who did not complete the course (Group B)." But perhaps the skiers who did complete the course (Group A) would have been MORE likely to be involved in a collision if they had not taken the courses. In other words, without the course, skiers in Group A might have been MORE likely to be involved in a collision than skiers in Group B. However, thanks to the courses, Group A skiers are now only just as likely to be involved in a collision as Group B skiers. This is evidence that the courses ARE effective and disrupts the author's logic. Choice (C) represents a necessary assumption, so let's keep it.
(C) is the best choice.

I fundamentally disagree with this explanation. Arbitrarily the skiers who take the course, and skiers who do not take the course are grouped into group A and group B. It must be noted, that before group A actually takes the course, group A and B are identical (in the fact neither have taken the course).

The passage explicitly states that research had been conducted which found that both skiers who did not take the course (group A) and skiers who did take the course (group B) have the same likelihood of getting into an accident. The research is presented as fact.

To say, group A potentially has a larger likelihood of getting into an accident is illogical given the information. If group A did not take the course then they would belong to group B. But the passage already explains group A has the SAME likelihood of getting into an accident as group B. Thus the assumption if the skiers who would have taken the course, did not, would get into more accidents, contradicts exactly what the passage says.
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I fundamentally disagree with this explanation. Arbitrarily the skiers who take the course, and skiers who do not take the course are grouped into group A and group B. It must be noted, that before group A actually takes the course, group A and B are identical (in the fact neither have taken the course).

The passage explicitly states that research had been conducted which found that both skiers who did not take the course (group A) and skiers who did take the course (group B) have the same likelihood of getting into an accident. The research is presented as fact.

To say, group A potentially has a larger likelihood of getting into an accident is illogical given the information. If group A did not take the course then they would belong to group B. But the passage already explains group A has the SAME likelihood of getting into an accident as group B. Thus the assumption if the skiers who would have taken the course, did not, would get into more accidents, contradicts exactly what the passage says.
The passage says that AFTER completing the course, skiers who COMPLETED the course (group B) were just as likely to be involved in a collision as skiers who did not complete the course (group B).

The passage does NOT say that the two groups had the same likelihood BEFORE group B completed the course. Thus, it would not contradict the passage to say that group B was more likely to be involved in an accident before taking the course. For example, imagine that the ski patrol forced any skier who was involved in an accident or who was caught doing something dangerous (i.e. riding at excessive speeds) to take the course. In other words, perhaps the only people who take the course are people who are more dangerous in the first place. So before the course, group B's odds of collision may have been well above average and now, thanks to the course, their odds are average.
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argument says : "Despite this admirable initiative, a study shows that, during the past 10 years, skiers who completed the course were just as likely to be involved in a collision as skiers who did not complete the course."

answer choice C says : "Skiers who completed the course are no less likely to be involved in a collision than they would have been if they had not completed the course."

are not they same? please help me in simple explanation . thanks .
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argument says : "Despite this admirable initiative, a study shows that, during the past 10 years, skiers who completed the course were just as likely to be involved in a collision as skiers who did not complete the course."

answer choice C says : "Skiers who completed the course are no less likely to be involved in a collision than they would have been if they had not completed the course."

are not they same? please help me in simple explanation . thanks .
Take a look at the explanations for (C) in this post and this post, and let us know if that clears it up!
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(B) There are other methods besides offering skier safety courses that are more effective in reducing the risk of skier collisions and injuries. -Irrelevant. The premise doesn't say that there aren't any other more safer methods than this free course. This is just a stated fact.


(C) Skiers who completed the course are no less likely to be involved in a collision than they would have been if they had not completed the course. -CORRECT. This shows that the course isn't meeting its true purpose. Also, negating the option as "Skiers who completed the course are no less likely to be involved in a collision than they would have been if they had not completed the course" weakens the conclusion. This is definitely a good choice.


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Well,

For option B,
Conclusion says that the courses need to 'be improved or eliminated' - Doesn't improved suggest that some other method exists?

As for option C, Its it just a repitition of what is mentioned in the question. Don't think it can be counted as an 'Assumption' if we repeat it.
Let me know your thoughts.

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(B) There are other methods besides offering skier safety courses that are more effective in reducing the risk of skier collisions and injuries. -Irrelevant. The premise doesn't say that there aren't any other more safer methods than this free course. This is just a stated fact.


(C) Skiers who completed the course are no less likely to be involved in a collision than they would have been if they had not completed the course. -CORRECT. This shows that the course isn't meeting its true purpose. Also, negating the option as "Skiers who completed the course are no less likely to be involved in a collision than they would have been if they had not completed the course" weakens the conclusion. This is definitely a good choice.


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Well,

For option B,
Conclusion says that the courses need to 'be improved or eliminated' - Doesn't improved suggest that some other method exists?

As for option C, Its it just a repitition of what is mentioned in the question. Don't think it can be counted as an 'Assumption' if we repeat it.
Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks :)

For option B,

When the author says one option is that the course should be improved, that means creating a better course, not devising an entirely different way which is not a course. Hence option B cannot hold with that justification.

For option C,
You are correct in saying that an assumption must state new information which is not present in the passage. However, we should notice the difference between the statement in the premise and option C. The premise deals with two separate groups of skiers, while the option deals with the same group of skiers before and after they complete the course. C is necessary for the conclusion as it tells us that even for people who completed the course, it made no improvement compared to their state before that.
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