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mcwoodhill
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GMAT 1: 770 Q50 V45
GPA: 3.84
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14 Nov 2015, 12:03
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Hello, calling all the admission experts:
My partner is a Chinese citizen and we met when I worked in China. Well, I've posted my profile before and let's get back to his part.
He is a bit older than me: 34 and has a dream to get into Harvard/Wharton/Columbia, and I wish him to be admitted to one of the three too, because he can then stay around NYC.
After the graduation he wants either to start up a cultural goods company with me or to work with a major arts institutions in New York.
This is his profile:
1. Citizenship: Chinese
2. GMAT Score: 790, Q51, V46 (Guess I got luck, I scored 770 only with Q50, V45, big gap.)
3. Job: 12 years of Chinese Civil Servant and Diplomat with China's Central Government. He's worked in Beijing, Canada and New York. Currently he just finishes his posting in New York and will return to China soon. He's very well connected to China's cultural sector. And he really did some amazing things:
(1) He saved his acrobat performers from Sudanese militias--that's kinda what I fall for him, he truly is the kind of next door big bro you want to love.
(2) He organized the Fendi Show on the Great Wall.
(3) He organized the Fireworks Display on the Hudson River in celebration of Chinese New Year. He started the project and everyone in the city can still enjoy it this year.
(4) He organized really plenty of Chinese top dignitaries'--say the First Lady and the like--visits to New York's top arts institutions.
(5) He was part of the city's very high profile show China: Through the Looking Glass and helped the Met Museum a lot on putting everything together.
4. Recommendation Letters: I can't reveal too much but his recommendation letters are from the cabinet minister--yes, it's cabinet minister, not state ministers, or director-general--he's working for and a billionaire here in New York, who is trying to go to expand his network in Beijing.
I'd though like to suggest he ask for a recommendation letter from the Met Museum elaborating his help on the high profile show to show his strength to connect both the Chinese and the US cultural sectors and markets.
Any specific idea about this part: billionaire or business partner? He thought it would be good to get a testimony from a business guy but I guess those who he worked closely with and helped might be of greater help.
5. Essay: we're working on that together.
6. GPA: He graduated from the best university of China: Peking University but the GPA was pretty low like mine: 3.2
7. Miscellaneous:
(1) he has a quite promising future in China but has been quite forced by me to go back to school and start business with me. But both he and I have concerns about his health. He has very severe asthma and allergic to a lot of things. This isn't a problem in any major US city but I'm really worried the haze in Beijing will literally kill him.
He yielded to me against his mother's very strong opposition. Should he mention this part in his essay because it's very harsh and difficult to be a member of LGBT community in China. Or he just forgo this part, sticking to the no ask no tell policy?
(2) given his working experiences in both Canada and New York, is tofle still necessary or can it be exempted?
I'd like to recommend CUNY/SUNY mba programs though to make sure he can move back to the city very soon. But he can't agree. He has a very big dream of going to HBS. I guess all the Asians have the same dream though. Well, since I've forgone this and now focused on my alma mater NYU, I do wish he'd nail it.
My partner is a Chinese citizen and we met when I worked in China. Well, I've posted my profile before and let's get back to his part.
He is a bit older than me: 34 and has a dream to get into Harvard/Wharton/Columbia, and I wish him to be admitted to one of the three too, because he can then stay around NYC.
After the graduation he wants either to start up a cultural goods company with me or to work with a major arts institutions in New York.
This is his profile:
1. Citizenship: Chinese
2. GMAT Score: 790, Q51, V46 (Guess I got luck, I scored 770 only with Q50, V45, big gap.)
3. Job: 12 years of Chinese Civil Servant and Diplomat with China's Central Government. He's worked in Beijing, Canada and New York. Currently he just finishes his posting in New York and will return to China soon. He's very well connected to China's cultural sector. And he really did some amazing things:
(1) He saved his acrobat performers from Sudanese militias--that's kinda what I fall for him, he truly is the kind of next door big bro you want to love.
(2) He organized the Fendi Show on the Great Wall.
(3) He organized the Fireworks Display on the Hudson River in celebration of Chinese New Year. He started the project and everyone in the city can still enjoy it this year.
(4) He organized really plenty of Chinese top dignitaries'--say the First Lady and the like--visits to New York's top arts institutions.
(5) He was part of the city's very high profile show China: Through the Looking Glass and helped the Met Museum a lot on putting everything together.
4. Recommendation Letters: I can't reveal too much but his recommendation letters are from the cabinet minister--yes, it's cabinet minister, not state ministers, or director-general--he's working for and a billionaire here in New York, who is trying to go to expand his network in Beijing.
I'd though like to suggest he ask for a recommendation letter from the Met Museum elaborating his help on the high profile show to show his strength to connect both the Chinese and the US cultural sectors and markets.
Any specific idea about this part: billionaire or business partner? He thought it would be good to get a testimony from a business guy but I guess those who he worked closely with and helped might be of greater help.
5. Essay: we're working on that together.
6. GPA: He graduated from the best university of China: Peking University but the GPA was pretty low like mine: 3.2
7. Miscellaneous:
(1) he has a quite promising future in China but has been quite forced by me to go back to school and start business with me. But both he and I have concerns about his health. He has very severe asthma and allergic to a lot of things. This isn't a problem in any major US city but I'm really worried the haze in Beijing will literally kill him.
He yielded to me against his mother's very strong opposition. Should he mention this part in his essay because it's very harsh and difficult to be a member of LGBT community in China. Or he just forgo this part, sticking to the no ask no tell policy?
(2) given his working experiences in both Canada and New York, is tofle still necessary or can it be exempted?
I'd like to recommend CUNY/SUNY mba programs though to make sure he can move back to the city very soon. But he can't agree. He has a very big dream of going to HBS. I guess all the Asians have the same dream though. Well, since I've forgone this and now focused on my alma mater NYU, I do wish he'd nail it.
mcwoodhill
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Concentration: Social Entrepreneurship, International Business
Schools: HBS '18 (D) CBS '18 (D) Wharton '18 (II) Kelley '18 (WL) Yale '18 (D) Sloan '18 (II) Johnson '18 (II)
GMAT 1: 770 Q50 V45
GPA: 3.84
Schools: HBS '18 (D) CBS '18 (D) Wharton '18 (II) Kelley '18 (WL) Yale '18 (D) Sloan '18 (II) Johnson '18 (II)
GMAT 1: 770 Q50 V45
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16 Nov 2015, 19:59
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anyone and experts? please share your ideas
22 Nov 2015, 08:48
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Hi mcwoodhill,
Congrats for a great GMAT score! It's as good as one can possibly get. And he has a profile which can work from diversity perspective. This is just [url=https://mba.wharton.upenn.edu/admissions/admissions-process/preparing-successful-application/
]an example from Wharton[/url]: "While there is no set profile for admitted students, we value diversity in both professional and personal experiences." Almost all schools factor in diversity as one of the criteria for taking in students.
On these counts, he is no doubt good. However, schools would want to know why he wants to pursue an MBA so late in his career. Rotman school in a recent study of 1,000 of their MBA graduates found long work experience as second biggest post-MBA employment risk factor. Therefore, you need to articulate why MBA at this stage, which will help allay concern of B-schools about your partner's post-MBA prospects. You may read more on older applicants here.
Second, title of your recommender (cabinet minister et al) doesn't matter . What matters is how well they know you. If they don't know you well, they won't be able to provide insightful examples in your recommendations, something that is extremely important to schools. You may read what schools say in this regard in their recommendation/ admissions page.
With regard to toefl, if your medium of instruction in bachelor's or master's (though, few schools such as HBS prefer bachelor's) wasn't English, then you need to write toefl or similar tests. But, there are schools such as Wharton and LBS which provide an additional option for waiver - work experience in English-speaking country. For this you need to see school specific instructions. In this regard, you may find this article useful.
Congrats for a great GMAT score! It's as good as one can possibly get. And he has a profile which can work from diversity perspective. This is just [url=https://mba.wharton.upenn.edu/admissions/admissions-process/preparing-successful-application/
]an example from Wharton[/url]: "While there is no set profile for admitted students, we value diversity in both professional and personal experiences." Almost all schools factor in diversity as one of the criteria for taking in students.
On these counts, he is no doubt good. However, schools would want to know why he wants to pursue an MBA so late in his career. Rotman school in a recent study of 1,000 of their MBA graduates found long work experience as second biggest post-MBA employment risk factor. Therefore, you need to articulate why MBA at this stage, which will help allay concern of B-schools about your partner's post-MBA prospects. You may read more on older applicants here.
Second, title of your recommender (cabinet minister et al) doesn't matter . What matters is how well they know you. If they don't know you well, they won't be able to provide insightful examples in your recommendations, something that is extremely important to schools. You may read what schools say in this regard in their recommendation/ admissions page.
With regard to toefl, if your medium of instruction in bachelor's or master's (though, few schools such as HBS prefer bachelor's) wasn't English, then you need to write toefl or similar tests. But, there are schools such as Wharton and LBS which provide an additional option for waiver - work experience in English-speaking country. For this you need to see school specific instructions. In this regard, you may find this article useful.
