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If \(x^2+y^2=1\) and \(||x|-0.34|+0.66=y\), than how many values can \(x\) take?

A. 0
B. 1
C. 2
D. 3
E. 4



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What is wrong with the given solution in the image:
here x=0 or 1 0r -1

but i consider case last one in pic (from d)
here i get x=.84 and y =-.52
then also x^2+y^2=1 then y are we nopt considering such cases
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There are couple of problems with this approach for this particular question.
1. This approach can take a lot of time. Whenever you see second order equations, go for the graphical approach.

2. You didn't find the domain for x, for each equation.
For example-
||x|-0.34|+0.66=y
y=x-0.34+0.66, when x≥0.34
y=0.34-x+0.66, when \(0.34 ≥x ≥0\)
y=0.34+x+0.66, when 0≥x≥-0.34
y=0.34-x+0.66, when x≤-0.34

Now you can solve each case, and look whether the solution lies in the domain or not.




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If \(x^2+y^2=1\) and \(||x|-0.34|+0.66=y\), than how many values can \(x\) take?

A. 0
B. 1
C. 2
D. 3
E. 4



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What is wrong with the given solution in the image:
here x=0 or 1 0r -1

but i consider case last one in pic (from d)
here i get x=.84 and y =-.52
then also x^2+y^2=1 then y are we nopt considering such cases
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1 Kudos for an excellent question.
IMO graphical approach can save lot of time in this question.

We just need to figure out whether point of minima of ||x|-0.34|+0.66=y lies within the circle or not, and whether local maxima at x=0 lies within circle or not.
\(x^2+y^2=1\) is a curve of a circle of radius 1.

At x=0, ||x|-0.34|+0.66= 1, which lies on the circle.

Minima of \(||x|-0.34|+0.66=y\) occurs when |x|-0.34=0 or x=+0.34 and -0.34, and y=0.66, lie inside the circle.

Now we are good to draw the curve.

There are 3 points where both curves meet.

D



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If \(x^2+y^2=1\) and \(||x|-0.34|+0.66=y\), than how many values can \(x\) take?

A. 0
B. 1
C. 2
D. 3
E. 4



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nick1816 VeritasKarishma Bunuel chondro48 Is there an algebra way to solve this question?



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1 Kudos for an excellent question.
IMO graphical approach can save lot of time in this question.

We just need to figure out whether point of minima of ||x|-0.34|+0.66=y lies within the circle or not, and whether local maxima at x=0 lies within circle or not.
\(x^2+y^2=1\) is a curve of a circle of radius 1.

At x=0, ||x|-0.34|+0.66= 1, which lies on the circle.

Minima of \(||x|-0.34|+0.66=y\) occurs when |x|-0.34=0 or x=+0.34 and -0.34, and y=0.66, lie inside the circle.

Now we are good to draw the curve.

There are 3 points where both curves meet.

D



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If \(x^2+y^2=1\) and \(||x|-0.34|+0.66=y\), than how many values can \(x\) take?

A. 0
B. 1
C. 2
D. 3
E. 4



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Hi Kinshook nick1816 VeritasKarishma and Bunuel,

Yes, there is. Below is a framework to do so. Correct me, experts, if I make mistake.

Note that using algebra, the solution is laborious and time consuming.

Transform \(x^2=1-y^2\) to |x|=√(1-y^2). Substituting |x| with √(1-y^2) into the second equation, we get:
|√(1-y^2)-0.34|=y-0.66.

If √(1-y^2) > 0.34, then √(1-y^2)-0.34 = y-0.66 --> √(1-y^2)= y-0.34. After squaring both sides and performing tedious calculation, we will find that there are two solution points available when √(1-y^2) > 0.34.

If √(1-y^2) <= 0.34, then 0.34-√(1-y^2) = y-0.66 --> √(1-y^2)=1-y. It is obvious that y=1 satisfies the equation and correspondingly |x|=√(1-y^2)=0. Thus, there is one solution point (0,1) when √(1-y^2) <= 0.34.

Finally, there are 3 values that x can take.

Final answer is (D)
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1 Kudos for an excellent question.
IMO graphical approach can save lot of time in this question.

We just need to figure out whether point of minima of ||x|-0.34|+0.66=y lies within the circle or not, and whether local maxima at x=0 lies within circle or not.
\(x^2+y^2=1\) is a curve of a circle of radius 1.

At x=0, ||x|-0.34|+0.66= 1, which lies on the circle.

Minima of \(||x|-0.34|+0.66=y\) occurs when |x|-0.34=0 or x=+0.34 and -0.34, and y=0.66, lie inside the circle.

Now we are good to draw the curve.

There are 3 points where both curves meet.

D



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If \(x^2+y^2=1\) and \(||x|-0.34|+0.66=y\), than how many values can \(x\) take?

A. 0
B. 1
C. 2
D. 3
E. 4



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You can solve it using the usual method of definition of absolute values (as done by others here) but if you are unable to solve it graphically, it is probably a good idea to skip the question. With algebra, it will be far too time consuming and error prone.
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The explanation given by you to find out the value of y at the equation's minima is crystal clear. We have arrived at y = 0.66 at minima i.e x = +/- 0.34.

Now, how do we figure if y = 0.66 falls inside the circle?

Ofcourse we can substitute x = 0.34 in the circle equation to find out the value of y. And if the value of y > 0.66, we can deduce that 0.66 is inside the circle. However, this is a time consuming process that requires squaring and square-roots

Is there are short cut to find if 0.66 falls inside the circle?

VeritasKarishma Bunuel Philipp98 - Please help me with this.
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0.34≃1/3
0.66≃2/3
\((\frac{1}{3})^2+(\frac{2}{3})^2\)= \(\frac{1}{9}+\frac{4}{9}\)=\(\frac{5}{9}\)<1

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The explanation given by you to find out the value of y at the equation's minima is crystal clear. We have arrived at y = 0.66 at minima i.e x = +/- 0.34.

Now, how do we figure if y = 0.66 falls inside the circle?

Ofcourse we can substitute x = 0.34 in the circle equation to find out the value of y. And if the value of y > 0.66, we can deduce that 0.66 is inside the circle. However, this is a time consuming process that requires squaring and square-roots

Is there are short cut to find if 0.66 falls inside the circle?

VeritasKarishma Bunuel Philipp98 - Please help me with this.
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The explanation given by you to find out the value of y at the equation's minima is crystal clear. We have arrived at y = 0.66 at minima i.e x = +/- 0.34.

Now, how do we figure if y = 0.66 falls inside the circle?

Ofcourse we can substitute x = 0.34 in the circle equation to find out the value of y. And if the value of y > 0.66, we can deduce that 0.66 is inside the circle. However, this is a time consuming process that requires squaring and square-roots

Is there are short cut to find if 0.66 falls inside the circle?

VeritasKarishma Bunuel Philipp98 - Please help me with this.

Check the solution given by Philipp98 above. Notice how the graph of ||x| - 0.34| + 0.66 = y is drawn.
Also note that each green line has slope 1 or -1. Since the graph intersects the circle at (0, 1), the line of slope 1 will be inside the circle (45 degrees line). Hence you know that it will intersect the circle in 3 points.

Check out these two posts on how to draw absolute value graphs:

https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/2011/0 ... h-to-mods/
https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/2014/1 ... solutions/
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We just need to figure out whether point of minima of ||x|-0.34|+0.66=y lies within the circle or not, and whether local maxima at x=0 lies within circle or not.
x2+y2=1x2+y2=1 is a curve of a circle of radius 1.

At x=0, ||x|-0.34|+0.66= 1, which lies on the circle.

Minima of ||x|−0.34|+0.66=y||x|−0.34|+0.66=y occurs when |x|-0.34=0 or x=+0.34 and -0.34, and y=0.66, lie inside the circle.

Now we are good to draw the curve.

There are 3 points where both curves meet.

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Transform x2=1−y2x2=1−y2 to |x|=√(1-y^2). Substituting |x| with √(1-y^2) into the second equation, we get:
|√(1-y^2)-0.34|=y-0.66.

If √(1-y^2) > 0.34, then √(1-y^2)-0.34 = y-0.66 --> √(1-y^2)= y-0.34. After squaring both sides and performing tedious calculation, we will find that there are two solution points available when √(1-y^2) > 0.34.

If √(1-y^2) <= 0.34, then 0.34-√(1-y^2) = y-0.66 --> √(1-y^2)=1-y. It is obvious that y=1 satisfies the equation and correspondingly |x|=√(1-y^2)=0. Thus, there is one solution point (0,1) when √(1-y^2) <= 0.34.

Finally, there are 3 values that x can take.
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can anyone share an algebraic way to solve this?
GMATNinja - I came across this problem while using the 13 week study plan that you have posted. v grateful for any support here.
Bunuel - long time fan and learner from your post. any guidance you can provide here?

alternatively, can someone suggest a quick way to identify whether an inequality problem needs to be solved algebraically or graphically? atleast I'd save the time I spent solving algebraically that I did today.
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It is better to not solve this in an algebraic way. And when you have questions like "how many solutions to ..." -> where we have to find solutions to an equation which has nested absolute values -> in those questions it is easier to draw a graph and then check.
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If \(x^2+y^2=1\) and \(||x|-0.34|+0.66=y\), than how many values can \(x\) take?

Since \(x^2+y^2=1\)
-1<=x<=1 &
-1<=y<=1

||x|-0.34|+0.66=y
||x|-0.34| = y - .66>=0
y>=.66

Case 1: |x|=0 or x = 0
y = .34 + .66 = 1

Case 2: |x| >= .34
|x| - .34 = y - .66
|x| = y - .32
Combining with \(x^2+y^2=1\)
(y- .32)^2 + y^2 = 1
2y^2 - .64y + .32^2 - 1 = 0
2y^2 - .64y - .8976 = 0
y = .8487
|x| = .8487 - .32 = .5287 = .53 approx
x = .53 & - .53

Case 3: |x| <.34
.34 - |x| = y - .66
|x| = 1 - y
(1-y)^2 + y^ 2 = 1
2y^2 - 2y = 0
2y(y-1) = 0
y = 0 or y = 1
y = 0 is not possible since y>=.66; y = 1 is already a solution when x = 0

x = {-.53,0,.53} : 3 values

IMO D
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