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13 Jan 2020, 16:35
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This decision is harder than expected. What would you guys choose?
Background: International, will be recruiting for tech.
What I'm thinking ATM: No idea. I'm lost. All three choices have their Pros and Cons, and I need some help deciding!
Fuqua:
Pros: Strong tech recruitment, Durham is warm
Cons: No GND, not as many alumni in Tech as Ross, historically not a T10 program
Ross:
Pros: Very strong tech recruitment, souvik101990 has been an amazing ambassadaor for the program, GND, lots of alumni in Tech, consistently in T10
Cons: AA is cold, slightly lesser international recognition than Duke and lot less international recognition than Yale
Yale SOM:
Pros: Strong brand (yes, I know the strength of the brand comes from the parent uni and not the Business school, but it's a brand that resonates back in Europe where MBA's are rare anyway), surprisingly strong Tech recruiting (big Tech consider SOM as peer school to Fuqua and Ross for recruiting), 2Y's can take literally any electives, GND*
Cons: NH is cold as well, will be slightly more expensive than the other two, not many alumni in the tech sector (but enough in big Tech, which is my target. + larger Yale community is very helpful)
Tagging bb and souvik101990 for your inputs!
Thank you!
Background: International, will be recruiting for tech.
What I'm thinking ATM: No idea. I'm lost. All three choices have their Pros and Cons, and I need some help deciding!
Fuqua:
Pros: Strong tech recruitment, Durham is warm
Cons: No GND, not as many alumni in Tech as Ross, historically not a T10 program
Ross:
Pros: Very strong tech recruitment, souvik101990 has been an amazing ambassadaor for the program, GND, lots of alumni in Tech, consistently in T10
Cons: AA is cold, slightly lesser international recognition than Duke and lot less international recognition than Yale
Yale SOM:
Pros: Strong brand (yes, I know the strength of the brand comes from the parent uni and not the Business school, but it's a brand that resonates back in Europe where MBA's are rare anyway), surprisingly strong Tech recruiting (big Tech consider SOM as peer school to Fuqua and Ross for recruiting), 2Y's can take literally any electives, GND*
Cons: NH is cold as well, will be slightly more expensive than the other two, not many alumni in the tech sector (but enough in big Tech, which is my target. + larger Yale community is very helpful)
Tagging bb and souvik101990 for your inputs!
Thank you!
14 Jan 2020, 17:42
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Congratulations! Awesome job!
Fuqua, Ross, and Yale are considered strongly peer schools in the US. There are years when one is rated higher than the other and it is a bit of the same picture and feeling you have
While Yale is a strong international name, it does not seem to have a STEM certificate which both Fuqua and Ross do have... at least not yet that I am aware of it https://gmatclub.com/forum/stem-designa ... 13573.html while I think Yale will make that list, I am not sure it is really worth it without STEM and without equal scholarship, which i feel if that's where your heart desire lies, you have a strong case to at least get a match https://gmatclub.com/forum/negotiating- ... 12949.html
That would push me towards Fuqua or Ross in that case (sorry - not what you wanted to hear perhaps).
Fuqua, Ross, and Yale are considered strongly peer schools in the US. There are years when one is rated higher than the other and it is a bit of the same picture and feeling you have
While Yale is a strong international name, it does not seem to have a STEM certificate which both Fuqua and Ross do have... at least not yet that I am aware of it https://gmatclub.com/forum/stem-designa ... 13573.html while I think Yale will make that list, I am not sure it is really worth it without STEM and without equal scholarship, which i feel if that's where your heart desire lies, you have a strong case to at least get a match https://gmatclub.com/forum/negotiating- ... 12949.html
That would push me towards Fuqua or Ross in that case (sorry - not what you wanted to hear perhaps).
15 Jan 2020, 03:48
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Thank you for your input, bb ! To be honest, I'm skeptical of the STEM certification. Since it only impacts OPT Extensions and not the regular 12 month OPT, we will only know if it actually makes a difference in a year (or two). There are conflicting views floating around.
Banking, consulting, Tech, a few LDP's - these are the industries that are open to hiring internationals for jobs in the US. Almost none of the MBA jobs in these industries are STEM - why would the USCIS approve such STEM extension requests? As per USCIS itself (https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-st ... t/stem-opt),
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Direct relationship between a PM-T/Strategy Consulting/IB/Corp. Finance/LDP's with the qualifying STEM degree (which is in this case the data analytics heavy concentration in most programs)? It'd take a very creative lawyer to drum up such a training plan.
From MIT's International student office (https://iso.mit.edu/immigration/emp_f1_stem_opt.shtml), this bit stands out (highlighted bright red on the website) -
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Could it possibly be a case of FOMO from the universities and an easy way to get internationals who are attracted by the "24 additional months of OPT" narrative that's been touted? I'm not 100% sure it is, but I'm not sure it's not too.
Anyway, if both STEM and scholarships were removed from the decision making process, would your recommendation change?
