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Thanks for your recommendation mainester1990s. Your point about the six month buffer is a valid one.

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I think you have a very clear winner here - INSEAD.

Exploring opportunities in both geographical foci is going to be more challenging regardless.

I am rather sure a sixth month buffer won’t be that much of a difference IF the coronavirus is still a major issue two years on from now.

Going forward INSEAD will leave you with a much better brand and much stronger and global alumni network which helps with future mobility.

It’s a no brainer. Don’t choose IMD just because of the coronavirus. Unless there’s something about the program that you really see yourself taking part in, or there’s a particularly enticing company in Switzerland that you want to work for.

Otherwise INSEAD

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Wow! Great job! Congratulations!

IMD has had a pretty strong and exclusive name for a while. It’s been up and down but it is still a very unique and interesting program for more mature Execs. They may not have the numbers in their alumni network but I think you’ll find quite a bit of quality in there.

INSEAD Is the best international program out there from a number of viewpoints. I feel it’s the Harvard of Europe while IMD is the Tuck of Europe. It’s very strong in consulting And the fact that you got admitted, indicates you have a strong employability evaluation by their admissions committee and they are confident you will be able to recruit well. INSESD would probably provide the most resilience during the coronavirus times. It has a strong network in Europe and Asia and it has two campuses, it is the best program outside of the US and you can always fall back on management consulting which is bread-and-butter of Insead should your other recruiting be slow....

I do not know yet how admissions and intakes will handle the new class in the current environment. We’re guessing right now. When do you have to confirm/deposit to IMD by?

My take on it.

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I feel it’s the Harvard of Europe while IMD is the Tuck of Europe.
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Never thought about it in this way. Nicely put!
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Unless you are interested in settling in the UK, and want to take advantage of the work authorization, INSEAD seems to be the most logical choice. I do hear you about the recruitment situation and I really want you to do the legwork on figuring out if this is in fact going to thwart your ability to achieve your goals. I helped this client get into INSEAD with a bit of money and he might be a valuable person to chat with. Super nice guy, I like him a lot. He did Jan batch
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-jiang-acca-90024bb3/

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Hi all,
Tough time for me to make the decision in the pandemic and hope to hear advice from you.

I was accepted to INSEAD, IMD, Oxford, Cambridge and CEIBS with all schools except Oxford gives me a small amount of scholarship/bursary (ranging from 8K-20K). Oxford’s bursary requires separate application and I have not been into the process right now as deciding on the offers.

A bit of background of mine. I’m a Chinese with no work authorization in other countries. I spent my career so far in 2 different big 4 across HK and Mainland China, with focus on risk consulting first then shifted to transaction advisory. I have a total working experience of 6.5 yrs so far and hold a CPA and CFA. Post-MBA I’d like to explore opportunities in Corporate (preferably healthcare) /Industrial for a Finance Role in Europe. But I’d be open to explore other corporate or consulting opportunities in Asia Pacific regions too if the role is attractive enough.

I do not have a preference towards EU or UK but I do aware that the work authorization of 2 years after graduation in UK may be an advantage. (btw I don’t speak French or German or other European languages)

Currently I am mostly struggled with the decision between INSEAD and IMD now so I’d only do analysis for the two.

INSEAD
Pros:
- Ranking is higher, higher awareness and alumni network much much larger
- Chances to explore both EU and APAC
- An initial language course to start some basics about French/German
- More employers come to INSEAD for recruitment with a larger variety
- Total cost of marginally lower than IMD after considering the scholarship but not essential

Cons:
- Heard from Alumni practically not feasible to explore job opportunities in two areas (also not recommended by CDC due to losing focus)
- Admitted in the July intake which started in August/July (if language course applies) this year, huge uncertainty with the coronavirus situation in France – uncertainty with possible online class, the VISA and uncertainty with the job market by the time starts to job hunting
- J intake is off-cycle for some LDP programme which typically recruit in Sep

IMD
Pros:
- Smaller class with stronger bonding and closer relationships, the help from alumni may help recruitment in difficult time as the class is small and easy to access the help (wonder if true or not)
- Start in Jan and recruit start later next year, more certainty towards the virus
- Stronger network in healthcare and industry (but may not surpass INSEAD given the large alumni network)

Cons: refer to the advantages of INSEAD (basically what INSEAD prevails are the short-falls of IMD to me)


Another issue i've seen a lot discussions on the forum is regarding the coronavirus related uncertainties and possible impacts to the economy as a whole and especially to the 1 year programme which have less time to absorb the impact. So I'd also open to hear more advice on whether I should still go MBA or go for placements in Europe provided the possible economic downturns.
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Thanks bb for your input.

I sure like your way describing the positioning of both schools as compared to US b schools - nice way to put them. I think INSEAD did provide more options/directions in terms of employment as IMD have people mainly come from/go for industry.

Our intake in INSEAD have sent a communication to the school for their measures to deal with our class's requests on deferal, measures on possible visa delays, and online classes, etc. But will wait for the school to give formal feedback.

The initial deadline for IMD for confirming is 13 Apr and deposit due 27 Apr. I asked for deferring the dates but not replied yet.

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Wow! Great job! Congratulations!

IMD has had a pretty strong and exclusive name for a while. It’s been up and down but it is still a very unique and interesting program for more mature Execs. They may not have the numbers in their alumni network but I think you’ll find quite a bit of quality in there.

INSEAD Is the best international program out there from a number of viewpoints. I feel it’s the Harvard of Europe while IMD is the Tuck of Europe. It’s very strong in consulting And the fact that you got admitted, indicates you have a strong employability evaluation by their admissions committee and they are confident you will be able to recruit well. INSESD would probably provide the most resilience during the coronavirus times. It has a strong network in Europe and Asia and it has two campuses, it is the best program outside of the US and you can always fall back on management consulting which is bread-and-butter of Insead should your other recruiting be slow....

I do not know yet how admissions and intakes will handle the new class in the current environment. We’re guessing right now. When do you have to confirm/deposit to IMD by?

My take on it.

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Thank you MBAPrepCoach for your reply and introduction of alumni. I am reaching out to more alum now and that would be helpful.

I do not have a particular interest in UK and I did hear from a number of alum from Oxford/cambridge had adverse opinions on the value of oxbridge MBA, in particular about the career service. At this point, I have almost decided not go for oxford or cambridge, esp with INSEAD's offer on hand.

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Unless you are interested in settling in the UK, and want to take advantage of the work authorization, INSEAD seems to be the most logical choice. I do hear you about the recruitment situation and I really want you to do the legwork on figuring out if this is in fact going to thwart your ability to achieve your goals. I helped this client get into INSEAD with a bit of money and he might be a valuable person to chat with. Super nice guy, I like him a lot. He did Jan batch
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-jiang-acca-90024bb3/

ikarus
Hi all,
Tough time for me to make the decision in the pandemic and hope to hear advice from you.

I was accepted to INSEAD, IMD, Oxford, Cambridge and CEIBS with all schools except Oxford gives me a small amount of scholarship/bursary (ranging from 8K-20K). Oxford’s bursary requires separate application and I have not been into the process right now as deciding on the offers.

A bit of background of mine. I’m a Chinese with no work authorization in other countries. I spent my career so far in 2 different big 4 across HK and Mainland China, with focus on risk consulting first then shifted to transaction advisory. I have a total working experience of 6.5 yrs so far and hold a CPA and CFA. Post-MBA I’d like to explore opportunities in Corporate (preferably healthcare) /Industrial for a Finance Role in Europe. But I’d be open to explore other corporate or consulting opportunities in Asia Pacific regions too if the role is attractive enough.

I do not have a preference towards EU or UK but I do aware that the work authorization of 2 years after graduation in UK may be an advantage. (btw I don’t speak French or German or other European languages)

Currently I am mostly struggled with the decision between INSEAD and IMD now so I’d only do analysis for the two.

INSEAD
Pros:
- Ranking is higher, higher awareness and alumni network much much larger
- Chances to explore both EU and APAC
- An initial language course to start some basics about French/German
- More employers come to INSEAD for recruitment with a larger variety
- Total cost of marginally lower than IMD after considering the scholarship but not essential

Cons:
- Heard from Alumni practically not feasible to explore job opportunities in two areas (also not recommended by CDC due to losing focus)
- Admitted in the July intake which started in August/July (if language course applies) this year, huge uncertainty with the coronavirus situation in France – uncertainty with possible online class, the VISA and uncertainty with the job market by the time starts to job hunting
- J intake is off-cycle for some LDP programme which typically recruit in Sep

IMD
Pros:
- Smaller class with stronger bonding and closer relationships, the help from alumni may help recruitment in difficult time as the class is small and easy to access the help (wonder if true or not)
- Start in Jan and recruit start later next year, more certainty towards the virus
- Stronger network in healthcare and industry (but may not surpass INSEAD given the large alumni network)

Cons: refer to the advantages of INSEAD (basically what INSEAD prevails are the short-falls of IMD to me)


Another issue i've seen a lot discussions on the forum is regarding the coronavirus related uncertainties and possible impacts to the economy as a whole and especially to the 1 year programme which have less time to absorb the impact. So I'd also open to hear more advice on whether I should still go MBA or go for placements in Europe provided the possible economic downturns.
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ikarus Congrats! I’m in a similar situation like u one year on, between IMD and INSEAD, could u share what choice you made in the end?
Similar to you I’m from Asia (Singapore) wanting to work in Europe for couple years after MBA in technology. The choice got tougher as I got a very significant scholarship from IMD.
I do like IMD mature crowd (as I’m 34 yo) and the recruitment process is a lot interactive. INSEAD on the other hand definitely has a bigger name that will be good for recruitment I suppose.

Any advices?

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ikarus Congrats! I’m in a similar situation like u one year on, between IMD and INSEAD, could u share what choice you made in the end?
Similar to you I’m from Asia (Singapore) wanting to work in Europe for couple years after MBA in technology. The choice got tougher as I got a very significant scholarship from IMD.
I do like IMD mature crowd (as I’m 34 yo) and the recruitment process is a lot interactive. INSEAD on the other hand definitely has a bigger name that will be good for recruitment I suppose.

Any advices?

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I suggest sending a PM to ikarus - they have not visited in about a year since starting the MBA I guess of pandemic... not sure if they did it or deferred...
Personally if you are not after Consulting and going for technology, INSEAD will not be as helpful in terms of recruiting and having a significant scholarship will help soften the blow but I would personally plan of recruiting off campus either at IMD or INSEAD.

P.S. With IMD being in Switzerland, what kind of a work permit do you get? Does it work in the EU?
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Switzerland comes under Schengen. Schengen work permit will be required for work if I am not incorrect.

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ikarus Congrats! I’m in a similar situation like u one year on, between IMD and INSEAD, could u share what choice you made in the end?
Similar to you I’m from Asia (Singapore) wanting to work in Europe for couple years after MBA in technology. The choice got tougher as I got a very significant scholarship from IMD.

I do like IMD mature crowd (as I’m 34 yo) and the recruitment process is a lot interactive. INSEAD on the other hand definitely has a bigger name that will be good for recruitment I suppose.

Any advices?

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I suggest sending a PM to ikarus - they have not visited in about a year since starting the MBA I guess of pandemic... not sure if they did it or deferred...
Personally if you are not after Consulting and going for technology, INSEAD will not be as helpful in terms of recruiting and having a significant scholarship will help soften the blow but I would personally plan of recruiting off campus either at IMD or INSEAD.

P.S. With IMD being in Switzerland, what kind of a work permit do you get? Does it work in the EU?