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I second this. I don't mean to sound rude, but at this point, this discussion sounds a bit premature, and turning down HEC without any news from UCLA would not be wise. The best course of action for you would be to pay the deposit at HEC now, and then hopefully in a month, you'll find yourself in a situation where you could choose between HEC and UCLA.

Also, the experience and opportunities that you'll get at these two programs will be significantly different. If you want to work in the US or at the frontline of tech, then UCLA will provide a much better entry-point to the West Coast tech scene than HEC (or even LBS or INSEAD for that matter). If you want to work in Europe, HEC would be a much better bet.

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Hard to turn down HEC when you don't know that you have Anderson offer yet. If those are your only two schools I would pay the deposit for HEC now. If you do get the Anderson offer and decide you want to attend, then paying for HEC would just be a sunk cost.
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Hey there! Congrats on HEC admission!

I study on HEC and if you want to stay in Europe after graduation I believe it's the best choice. If you wanna go back to the US, you might wanna stay there.

About the deadlines, I had an issue like this between HEC and IESE, and IESE was kind enough to speed it up a little bit their admission answer. Also, the HEC finance department is flexible, so you might want to ask for a possible delay on the deposit payment.

You might wanna give a try before committing because HEC deposit is really high.
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As someone who was in similar situation as yours - HEC vs other B school in different Continent and who made a decision to pay deposit and later did not join, I think I can help a little. Since I also spent some years in US, pre-MBA , I can provide a little more information.

Here are your main questions
A. HEC deposit with No UCLA offer.
B. UCLA Anderson vs HEC
C. Placement at UCLA
D. OPT after UCLA.
E. Safety at UCLA.

Before any Advice, it will be good to hear from you so that guess work can be avoided.

A. Total work-ex and field of work
B. Ever worked in Europe or USA?
C. Where do you plan to See yourself in 10 years.
D. How good is your french or any of the European language?
E. Do you have any scholarship from HEC?
F. Citizenship? (This is from US H1B perspective)


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Hi guys,

I am an engineer aiming to transition into the tech sector after graduating from my MBA.

So far I've applied and received an offer from HEC Paris and waiting for a reply from UCLA Anderson post interview which went really well.

HEC demands a deposit a month before admission for Anderson start rolling out.

My options are paying the hefty deposit either way to not miss my spot at HEC, but also feel like Anderson might have better job placements for tech later on especially with the 3 year OPT (can anyone confirm that?) even though HEC places higher in ranking.

Also, another concern is safety. I have seen on several accounts UCLA being mentioned as a bit unsafe, and I am worried especially that I am female and will be living alone.

Any input as to which might be a better choice if I get both? ( career placement wise into tech, safety and ease of living etc...)

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You will get the 3-year OPT at Anderson but it does not mean you get a job or get treated as someone who has a green card. It is nicer but employers don't want to be hiring someone who has an expiration date unless they are planning to sponsor your H1B. Also all MBA's these days have a STEM OPT. While you won't be different, you will have 3 year-work permit which is worth it. I believe you only get a year at HEC?
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Hard to turn down HEC when you don't know that you have Anderson offer yet. If those are your only two schools I would pay the deposit for HEC now. If you do get the Anderson offer and decide you want to attend, then paying for HEC would just be a sunk cost.

I agree. I don't know that you can't turn down the HEC offer with nothing else. Very ballsy to do that UNLESS you are not planning to attend HEC...

P.S. It is not a bad validation and point to the fact that you did get into HEC but you should be prepared to potentially not get Anderson Admit and reapply next year if you skip the HEC deposit (which is hefty, i think around 7-10K)
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As someone who was in similar situation as yours - HEC vs other B school in different Continent and who made a decision to pay deposit and later did not join, I think I can help a little. Since I also spent some years in US, pre-MBA , I can provide a little more information.

Here are your main questions
A. HEC deposit with No UCLA offer.
B. UCLA Anderson vs HEC
C. Placement at UCLA
D. OPT after UCLA.
E. Safety at UCLA.

Before any Advice, it will be good to hear from you so that guess work can be avoided.

A. Total work-ex and field of work
B. Ever worked in Europe or USA?
C. Where do you plan to See yourself in 10 years.
D. How good is your french or any of the European language?
E. Do you have any scholarship from HEC?
F. Citizenship? (This is from US H1B perspective)


ori93
Hi guys,

I am an engineer aiming to transition into the tech sector after graduating from my MBA.

So far I've applied and received an offer from HEC Paris and waiting for a reply from UCLA Anderson post interview which went really well.

HEC demands a deposit a month before admission for Anderson start rolling out.

My options are paying the hefty deposit either way to not miss my spot at HEC, but also feel like Anderson might have better job placements for tech later on especially with the 3 year OPT (can anyone confirm that?) even though HEC places higher in ranking.

Also, another concern is safety. I have seen on several accounts UCLA being mentioned as a bit unsafe, and I am worried especially that I am female and will be living alone.

Any input as to which might be a better choice if I get both? ( career placement wise into tech, safety and ease of living etc...)

Posted from my mobile device

Guys, thanks for all your replies!

A little background on me, non-EU non-US civil engineer with around 5 years experience in the construction industry in the middle east planning to switch into PM in a tech firm.

French is not an issue, i have moderate command of the language and can work on it easily.

It is pre-mature to decide from now, but weighing my options as to which will help me accomplish my goal better if given both acceptances while also having a really good quality MBA experience. Both europe and US are equally good options as long as placement options are well available. Scholarships not out yet.


And I get a one year visa stay in France vs 3 year OPT from the US.

Thanks everyone for the input!!
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From the information provided here is what I suggest :

- Since you are already working in middle east, HEC should be the best bet. HEC deposit can be reclaimed if the request is made within 2 weeks after deadline (check the exact clause currently). HEC has solid presence in middle east and your current work-ex will help you in searching for the next assignment.

- Construction to PM in tech industry - I assume you have already connected with the alumni from your background and taken a good look at this change of Function and sector. In an MBA only three changes can be done, Geography, function and sector. One of these should be within the reach. Two will require effort and all three will require major luck as well. Can someone predict the future? Take a guess.

- UCLA has received STEM accreditation recently , hence OPT should be applicable. However, how many actually land a tech PM role with your non-tech background needs to checked.

- As BB rightly pointed out, you don't want to be in a situation where UCLA doesn't materialize and HEC goes away as well. Next year, who knows what might happen.

- Is UCLA safe for women? Again, this is subjective and there might not be one right answer to it. My wife worked and lived alone for a while in US and it was safe. Did she live in UCLA? No. But you can again check with the female students and avoid certain parts of the campus, if those are problematic area.

HEC vs UCLA wont be a simple decision. Hence take your time. If you study astrology, we are middle of mercury retrograde till 21st feb, hence avoid any new major decision. ;)

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As someone who was in similar situation as yours - HEC vs other B school in different Continent and who made a decision to pay deposit and later did not join, I think I can help a little. Since I also spent some years in US, pre-MBA , I can provide a little more information.

Here are your main questions
A. HEC deposit with No UCLA offer.
B. UCLA Anderson vs HEC
C. Placement at UCLA
D. OPT after UCLA.
E. Safety at UCLA.

Before any Advice, it will be good to hear from you so that guess work can be avoided.

A. Total work-ex and field of work
B. Ever worked in Europe or USA?
C. Where do you plan to See yourself in 10 years.
D. How good is your french or any of the European language?
E. Do you have any scholarship from HEC?
F. Citizenship? (This is from US H1B perspective)


ori93
Hi guys,

I am an engineer aiming to transition into the tech sector after graduating from my MBA.

So far I've applied and received an offer from HEC Paris and waiting for a reply from UCLA Anderson post interview which went really well.

HEC demands a deposit a month before admission for Anderson start rolling out.

My options are paying the hefty deposit either way to not miss my spot at HEC, but also feel like Anderson might have better job placements for tech later on especially with the 3 year OPT (can anyone confirm that?) even though HEC places higher in ranking.

Also, another concern is safety. I have seen on several accounts UCLA being mentioned as a bit unsafe, and I am worried especially that I am female and will be living alone.

Any input as to which might be a better choice if I get both? ( career placement wise into tech, safety and ease of living etc...)

Posted from my mobile device

Guys, thanks for all your replies!

A little background on me, non-EU non-US civil engineer with around 5 years experience in the construction industry in the middle east planning to switch into PM in a tech firm.

French is not an issue, i have moderate command of the language and can work on it easily.

It is pre-mature to decide from now, but weighing my options as to which will help me accomplish my goal better if given both acceptances while also having a really good quality MBA experience. Both europe and US are equally good options as long as placement options are well available. Scholarships not out yet.


And I get a one year visa stay in France vs 3 year OPT from the US.

Thanks everyone for the input!!