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Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation.


(A) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation.

(B) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture had been based on theory rather than observation.

(C) Before realist forms had become prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation.

(D) Before realist forms had become prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture had been based on theory rather than observation.

(E) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were being based on theory rather than observation.


 


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(A) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation. Need to use that past perfect tense as two different timelines are used

(B) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture had been based on theory rather than observation. CORRECT

(C) Before realist forms had become prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation. incorrect usage of "had"

(D) Before realist forms had become prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture had been based on theory rather than observation. incorrect usage of "had"

(E) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were being based on theory rather than observation. incorrect usage of continuous tense
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Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation.


(A) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation.

(B) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture had been based on theory rather than observation.

(C) Before realist forms had become prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation.

(D) Before realist forms had become prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture had been based on theory rather than observation.

(E) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were being based on theory rather than observation.



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ACD: Incorrect tense: use past perfect for the preceding event to the main event

B: Correct

E: Unnecessary "being", incorrect tense: past perfect
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Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation.


(A) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation.

(B) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture had been based on theory rather than observation.

(C) Before realist forms had become prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation.

(D) Before realist forms had become prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture had been based on theory rather than observation.

(E) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were being based on theory rather than observation.



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ACD: Incorrect tense: use past perfect for the preceding event to the main event

B: Correct

E: Unnecessary "being", incorrect tense: past perfect

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Request you help in understanding the correct answer choice.

I remember reading that when the order of events is explicit we don't need to use a complex tense such as past participle and the use of past tense is accepted.

For Example:

She graduated from Mountain Ridge, which was established during World War II.

I think (please correct me if I am wrong) the below usage is incorrect -

She graduated from Mountain Ridge, which had been established during World War II.

Reason: Because she graduated from a school, the school should have been established prior to her graduation. Hence the sequence is explicit and the usage of past perfect tense is not required.

Can you let me know if my understanding is correct. I always thought that GMAT prefers using a complex tense only when absolute necessary.

Request you to let me know why is the usage of the simple past is incorrect as 'Before' explicitly specifies the order of events.
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Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation.


(A) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation.

(B) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture had been based on theory rather than observation.

(C) Before realist forms had become prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation.

(D) Before realist forms had become prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture had been based on theory rather than observation.

(E) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were being based on theory rather than observation.



Dreamscore Official Explanation

ACD: Incorrect tense: use past perfect for the preceding event to the main event

B: Correct

E: Unnecessary "being", incorrect tense: past perfect

AndrewN


Request you help in understanding the correct answer choice.

I remember reading that when the order of events are explicit we don't need to use a complex tense such as past participle and the use of past tense is accepted.

For Example:

She graduated from Mountain Ridge, which was established during World War II.

I think (please correct me if I am wrong) the below usage is incorrect -

She graduated from Mountain Ridge, which had been established during World War II.

Reason: Because she graduated from a school, the school should have been established prior to her graduation. Hence the sequence is explicit and the usage of past perfect tense is not required.

Can you let me know if my understanding is correct. I always thought that GMAT prefers using a complex tense only when absolute necessary.

Request you to let me know why is the usage of the simple past is incorrect as 'Before' explicitly specifies the order of events.

AndrewN @dreamscore

I also have the same doubt here.

In this question the sequence is perfectly clear because "before" is used.

I thought using past perfect is redundant, because using simple past can clearly establish the timeline.

Thank you
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Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation.

(A) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation.

(B) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture had been based on theory rather than observation.

(C) Before realist forms had become prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were based on theory rather than observation.

(D) Before realist forms had become prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture had been based on theory rather than observation.

(E) Before realist forms became prominent during the Archaic period, the proportions of sculpture were being based on theory rather than observation.

AndrewN


Request you help in understanding the correct answer choice.

I remember reading that when the order of events are explicit we don't need to use a complex tense such as past participle and the use of past tense is accepted.

For Example:

She graduated from Mountain Ridge, which was established during World War II.

I think (please correct me if I am wrong) the below usage is incorrect -

She graduated from Mountain Ridge, which had been established during World War II.

Reason: Because she graduated from a school, the school should have been established prior to her graduation. Hence the sequence is explicit and the usage of past perfect tense is not required.

Can you let me know if my understanding is correct. I always thought that GMAT prefers using a complex tense only when absolute necessary.

Request you to let me know why is the usage of the simple past is incorrect as 'Before' explicitly specifies the order of events.

AndrewN @dreamscore

I also have the same doubt here.

In this question the sequence is perfectly clear because "before" is used.

I thought using past perfect is redundant, because using simple past can clearly establish the timeline.

Thank you
Hello, SohGMAT2020 and AbhiroopGhosh. Before is a tricky time marker on the GMAT™. In this OG question on insurance companies, the simple past is used, but there is no other simple past verb in the sentence; in this GMAT Advanced question on female writers of France, however, we see the same cue word paired with the past perfect had been, but note that in the latter sentence, the simple past also appears in the form of were. I will admit that I did not touch the question on the grounds that I thought either answer choice (A) or (B) could be defended without a further split to separate the two. I could write a sentence similar in structure to the original and make a strong case for the simple past:

Decades before Justin Bieber rose to fame, Michael Jackson was known as the King of Pop.

I would argue that altering either rose (to would rise) or was (to had been) would create a much different sentence, in terms of meaning.

Likewise, in the two sentences about Mountain Ridge, the former seems to convey that the school still stands and remains in use, the latter that the school (perhaps the building) existed at some point during World War II, but was torn down at some later, unspecified time. Either version could work, depending on what the author wanted to say.

In the end, we have to accept that the question-writer(s) in this case wanted to touch on a point about the past perfect. It is hard to create questions, and, as the GMAT Advanced question above illustrates, there is an official precedent for such usage—pairing before with the past perfect—on the GMAT™.

I may not have provided the definitive answer you were seeking, but if my response proves helpful in some way, so much the better. Thank you both for thinking to ask me about it. As always, good luck with your studies.

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Hello, SohGMAT2020 and AbhiroopGhosh. Before is a tricky time marker on the GMAT™. In this OG question on insurance companies, the simple past is used, but there is no other simple past verb in the sentence; in this GMAT Advanced question on female writers of France, however, we see the same cue word paired with the past perfect had been, but note that in the latter sentence, the simple past also appears in the form of were. I will admit that I did not touch the question on the grounds that I thought either answer choice (A) or (B) could be defended without a further split to separate the two. I could write a sentence similar in structure to the original and make a strong case for the simple past:

Decades before Justin Bieber rose to fame, Michael Jackson was known as the King of Pop.

I would argue that altering either rose (to would rise) or was (to had been) would create a much different sentence, in terms of meaning.

Likewise, in the two sentences about Mountain Ridge, the former seems to convey that the school still stands and remains in use, the latter that the school (perhaps the building) existed at some point during World War II, but was torn down at some later, unspecified time. Either version could work, depending on what the author wanted to say.

In the end, we have to accept that the question-writer(s) in this case wanted to touch on a point about the past perfect. It is hard to create questions, and, as the GMAT Advanced question above illustrates, there is an official precedent for such usage—pairing before with the past perfect—on the GMAT™.

I may not have provided the definitive answer you were seeking, but if my response proves helpful in some way, so much the better. Thank you both for thinking to ask me about it. As always, good luck with your studies.

- Andrew

Thank you AndrewN

I really love the way you analyze and break down the verbal questions. Thank you for quoting the official questions as well. I was trying to look for a few official questions myself to clarify this doubt.

From what I understand from the two questions:

Before 1988, insurance companies in California were free to charge whatever rates the market would bear, needing no approval from regulators before raising rates.

Before Colette, the female writers of France had been aristocrats, from Mme de Lafayette to Anne de Noailles; - End of Independent Clause
there were no Jane Austens or Brontë sisters, perhaps because there were almost no clergymen’s daughters. - Separate sentence ( Actually the time line is same as "the female writers of France had been aristocrats")

So, from what I understand, both are correct ( Simple past and past perfect). Please correct me if I am wrong. So, my question is will GMAT ask us to choose between the two? And if so which one to prefer?

( Also please note that I am not trying to argue with the OA at all. I just want to make my understanding correct for the main exam. Cheers!!)
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Thank you AndrewN

I really love the way you analyze and break down the verbal questions. Thank you for quoting the official questions as well. I was trying to look for a few official questions myself to clarify this doubt.

From what I understand from the two questions:

Before 1988, insurance companies in California were free to charge whatever rates the market would bear, needing no approval from regulators before raising rates.

Before Colette, the female writers of France had been aristocrats, from Mme de Lafayette to Anne de Noailles; - End of Independent Clause
there were no Jane Austens or Brontë sisters, perhaps because there were almost no clergymen’s daughters. - Separate sentence ( Actually the time line is same as "the female writers of France had been aristocrats")

So, from what I understand, both are correct ( Simple past and past perfect). Please correct me if I am wrong. So, my question is will GMAT ask us to choose between the two? And if so which one to prefer?

( Also please note that I am not trying to argue with the OA at all. I just want to make my understanding correct for the main exam. Cheers!!)
I appreciate the kind words, SohGMAT2020. One thing you can count on in my responses is the display of a mind at work. I do not try to peddle an OA or OE, nor do I seek to agree with whatever Expert may have already commented on something. For better or worse, I explain my own thought process.

Yes, either the simple past or the past perfect can be correct in SC when you see before. As with many other decision points, you want to let contextual clues guide your hand. I cannot point to an official question that forces the test-taker to decide on this before + verb tense issue alone, at least between the simple past and the past perfect, because it is a nuanced issue. As always, you want to burn off answer choices you know are wrong first, then look for any differences in what is left—phrasing, pronouns, etc.—and when you learn to get behind safer options rather than chase could-be-true sentences, you start to get more and more questions correct. Sometimes it can feel like magic, but you are only placing trust in a system.

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Thank you AndrewN

I really love the way you analyze and break down the verbal questions. Thank you for quoting the official questions as well. I was trying to look for a few official questions myself to clarify this doubt.

From what I understand from the two questions:

Before 1988, insurance companies in California were free to charge whatever rates the market would bear, needing no approval from regulators before raising rates.

Before Colette, the female writers of France had been aristocrats, from Mme de Lafayette to Anne de Noailles; - End of Independent Clause
there were no Jane Austens or Brontë sisters, perhaps because there were almost no clergymen’s daughters. - Separate sentence ( Actually the time line is same as "the female writers of France had been aristocrats")

So, from what I understand, both are correct ( Simple past and past perfect). Please correct me if I am wrong. So, my question is will GMAT ask us to choose between the two? And if so which one to prefer?

( Also please note that I am not trying to argue with the OA at all. I just want to make my understanding correct for the main exam. Cheers!!)
I appreciate the kind words, SohGMAT2020. One thing you can count on in my responses is the display of a mind at work. I do not try to peddle an OA or OE, nor do I seek to agree with whatever Expert may have already commented on something. For better or worse, I explain my own thought process.

Yes, either the simple past or the past perfect can be correct in SC when you see before. As with many other decision points, you want to let contextual clues guide your hand. I cannot point to an official question that forces the test-taker to decide on this before + verb tense issue alone, at least between the simple past and the past perfect, because it is a nuanced issue. As always, you want to burn off answer choices you know are wrong first, then look for any differences in what is left—phrasing, pronouns, etc.—and when you learn to get behind safer options rather than chase could-be-true sentences, you start to get more and more questions correct. Sometimes it can feel like magic, but you are only placing trust in a system.

- Andrew

Thanks AndrewN for taking the time out to reply to my questions. Yes, I got what you are saying. I also try to do the same now a days and focus more on the meaning and structure of the sentence and eliminate the obvious wrong choices first.

Thanks again
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