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# A poor farmer was fond of telling his children: "In

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A poor farmer was fond of telling his children: "In this world, you are either rich or poor, and you are either honest or dishonest. All poor farmers are honest. Therefore, all rich farmers are dishonest."

The farmer's conclusion is properly drawn if the argument assumes that

(A) every honest farmer is poor

(B) every honest person is a farmer

(C) everyone who is dishonest is a rich farmer

(D) everyone who is poor is honest

(E) every poor person is a farmer

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03 Jan 2004, 15:03
I would believe it's C but not totally sure...
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03 Jan 2004, 15:23
D ??

drew a venn dia. poor farmers under honest set. and rich farmers under dis-honest set..

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03 Jan 2004, 16:22
The answer is A. Looks like this Q got you folks. I chose C think that proving C would establish the accuracy of the logic. But the question is not asking things like "which of the following is needed to make the argument sound" or "which of the following if established the conclusion can be drawn" It is asking the assumption and hence A is correct. If you negate A the logic falls apart.

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03 Jan 2004, 16:26
Hi DJ,

I am interested in your venn diagram. You can draw it in microsoft word and save it as JPEG file and then post it, if you have time.

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03 Jan 2004, 17:06
You can draw all the Venn diagrams you want, but I'd suggest just thinking about the question:

1. (A person is) either rich or poor,
2. (A person is) either honest or dishonest.

All poor farmers are honest.

Therefore, all rich farmers are dishonest.

The claims that I numbered set up the argument by saying that there's no middle ground, or gray area. Honesty and richness are binary conditions.

To prove the conclusion (all rich farmers are dishonest), we need to assert that a farmer cannot simultaneously be rich and honest. Only A lets us do this.

D comes close: "everyone who is poor is honest ". If it said that "everyone who is honest is poor", we'd be on...

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03 Jan 2004, 17:33
ohhhh...I see the difference. indeed it is A.

here's the venn dia:
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03 Jan 2004, 18:00
Great explaination folks. Thanks to DJ for his diagram. Thanks to stoolfi also.

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