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As its sales of computer products have surpassed those of measuring instruments, the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales they would in the past have conceded
to rivals.
(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals
(B) they would have conceded previously to their rivals
(C) that in the past would have been conceded previously to rivals
(D) it previously would have conceded to rivals in the past
(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals

Subject is singular: company. hence a and b are incorrect. D is incorrect bcoz of redundancy previously and past.
hence correct option is E. it refers to singular subject company.
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As its sales of computer products have surpassed those of measuring instruments, the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales they would in the past have conceded
to rivals.
(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals
(B) they would have conceded previously to their rivals
(C) that in the past would have been conceded previously to rivals
(D) it previously would have conceded to rivals in the past
(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals ANSWER

Notice how in the first part of the sentence the possessive pronouns 'its' refers to company. Therefore you can safely infer that company is singular and should take 'it' as a pronoun (which for collective nouns is usually the case: they are considered singular).

Notice in (D), previously...in the past... The two are the exact same thing. Therefore we have a case of redundancy.

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As its sales of computer products have surpassed
those of measuring instruments, the company has
become increasingly willing to compete for the mass
market sales they would in the past have conceded
to rivals.

(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals
(B) they would have conceded previously to their
rivals
(C) that in the past would have been conceded
previously to rivals
(D) it previously would have conceded to rivals in
the past
(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals

I know the correct answer is E..but I have a doubt..'it would in the past have conceded to rivals' is a clause..so why there is no comma or conjunction before it?
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10 Jun 2012, 11:16
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As its sales of computer products have surpassed
those of measuring instruments, the company has
become increasingly willing to compete for the mass
market sales they would in the past have conceded
to rivals.

(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals
(B) they would have conceded previously to their
rivals
(C) that in the past would have been conceded
previously to rivals
(D) it previously would have conceded to rivals in
the past
(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals

I know the correct answer is E..but I have a doubt..'it would in the past have conceded to rivals' is a clause..so why there is no comma or conjunction before it?

Why do you need either a comma or a conjunction here? The sentence would be incomplete without the clause that you have raised concern about.
Well, I have seen and noticed that the rules do help in sentence correction but it is the intent of the sentence that you have to capture and implement in the correct answer choice.

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10 Jun 2012, 12:04
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farukqmul wrote:
As its sales of computer products have surpassed
those of measuring instruments, the company has
become increasingly willing to compete for the mass
market sales they would in the past have conceded
to rivals.

(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals
(B) they would have conceded previously to their
rivals
(C) that in the past would have been conceded
previously to rivals
(D) it previously would have conceded to rivals in
the past
(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals

I know the correct answer is E..but I have a doubt..'it would in the past have conceded to rivals' is a clause..so why there is no comma or conjunction before it?

Why do you need either a comma or a conjunction here? The sentence would be incomplete without the clause that you have raised concern about.
Well, I have seen and noticed that the rules do help in sentence correction but it is the intent of the sentence that you have to capture and implement in the correct answer choice.

Good luck!

the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales...is this not a complete sentence?I thought the last part requires a 'that' or a 'comma' or an 'and'..Please can you explain where I am wrong ?
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3/2 split right in the beginning.

- "As its" declares that the company is singular. :. Kill A & B.
- Eliminate C for redundancy with "in the past" and "previously"
- D or E?
- Eliminate D for same reason.
- E is Last Man Standing.

As per your question, the beauty of the process of elimination is it doesn't matter. Every answer is wrong somehow. Furthermore, you are in fact misreading that. That part at the end isn't an independent clause so much as a modifier.

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11 Jun 2012, 07:50
Solving by elimination..right?

Answer is E as explained by my mate vandygrad11.

Thanks mate.

3/2 split right in the beginning.

- "As its" declares that the company is singular. :. Kill A & B.
- Eliminate C for redundancy with "in the past" and "previously"
- D or E?
- Eliminate D for same reason.
- E is Last Man Standing.

As per your question, the beauty of the process of elimination is it doesn't matter. Every answer is wrong somehow. Furthermore, you are in fact misreading that. That part at the end isn't an independent clause so much as a modifier.

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Furthermore, you are in fact misreading that. That part at the end isn't an independent clause so much as a modifier.

isn't a rule to join independent-dependent clauses using sub-ordinating conjunctions OR relative clause. 2 clause here are
>>> the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales (independent)
>>> it would in the past have conceded to rivals (dependent)
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As its sales of computer products have surpassed those of measuring instruments, the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales they would in the past have conceded to rivals.

(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals

(B) they would have conceded previously to their rivals

(C) that in the past would have been conceded previously to rivals
"would have been" is unecessary lengthy

(D) it previously would have conceded to rivals in the past

(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals
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20 Mar 2017, 14:45
Hi, I am confused about the construction of the phrase, I was looking for a that to connect the two clauses and found it only in D which is wordy.

the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales they would in the past have conceded

Is it not two independent clauses?
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Hi, I am confused about the construction of the phrase, I was looking for a that to connect the two clauses and found it only in D which is wordy.

the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales they would in the past have conceded

Is it not two independent clauses?
Here you're looking at a relative (dependent) clause in which the that has been "understood" away.

The company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales it would in the past have conceded to rivals.

is a shorter way of saying

The company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales that it would in the past have conceded to rivals.

Is the LHC in your name for the Large Hadron Collider by any chance?
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21 Mar 2017, 05:57
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LHC8717 wrote:
Hi, I am confused about the construction of the phrase, I was looking for a that to connect the two clauses and found it only in D which is wordy.

the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales they would in the past have conceded

Is it not two independent clauses?
Here you're looking at a relative (dependent) clause in which the that has been "understood" away.

The company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales it would in the past have conceded to rivals.

is a shorter way of saying

The company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales that it would in the past have conceded to rivals.

Is the LHC in your name for the Large Hadron Collider by any chance?

Thanks, it's clear now !

Unfortunately it's for the name of my town's ice hockey team ( Lausanne hockey club )
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As its sales of computer products have surpassed those of measuring instruments, the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales they would in the past have conceded
to rivals.
(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals
(B) they would have conceded previously to their rivals
(C) that in the past would have been conceded previously to rivals
(D) it previously would have conceded to rivals in the past
(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals

Company is collective noun and singular.also previously and in the past means the same and redundent.
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Unfortunately it's for the name of my town's ice hockey team ( Lausanne hockey club )
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LHC8717 wrote:
Unfortunately it's for the name of my town's ice hockey team ( Lausanne hockey club )
Haha... I learn something new on GMAT Club every day

One more fact, the Cern is situated within 50 kilometers from my ice hockey team
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25 Mar 2017, 08:39
They is wrong.
A,B eliminated.

C,D- 'previously' and 'in the past' are together.
Eliminated
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Straight E.
(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals
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26 Jun 2017, 08:25
Greetings everyone
I have a question regarding option C.
If we remove previously from C would it be correct then, ignoring passive construction.
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