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# As its sales of computer products have surpassed those of

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As its sales of computer products have surpassed those of measuring instruments, the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales they would in the past have conceded to rivals.

(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals
(B) they would have conceded previously to their rivals
(C) that in the past would have been conceded previously to rivals
(D) it previously would have conceded to rivals in the past
(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals

Subject is singular: company. hence a and b are incorrect. D is incorrect bcoz of redundancy previously and past.
hence correct option is E. it refers to singular subject company.

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06 May 2012, 18:50
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As its sales of computer products have surpassed those of measuring instruments, the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales they would in the past have conceded
to rivals.
(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals
(B) they would have conceded previously to their rivals
(C) that in the past would have been conceded previously to rivals
(D) it previously would have conceded to rivals in the past
(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals ANSWER

Notice how in the first part of the sentence the possessive pronouns 'its' refers to company. Therefore you can safely infer that company is singular and should take 'it' as a pronoun (which for collective nouns is usually the case: they are considered singular).

Notice in (D), previously...in the past... The two are the exact same thing. Therefore we have a case of redundancy.

Hope that helps .
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10 Jun 2012, 10:52
As its sales of computer products have surpassed
those of measuring instruments, the company has
become increasingly willing to compete for the mass
market sales they would in the past have conceded
to rivals.

(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals
(B) they would have conceded previously to their
rivals
(C) that in the past would have been conceded
previously to rivals
(D) it previously would have conceded to rivals in
the past
(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals

I know the correct answer is E..but I have a doubt..'it would in the past have conceded to rivals' is a clause..so why there is no comma or conjunction before it?
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10 Jun 2012, 11:16
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As its sales of computer products have surpassed
those of measuring instruments, the company has
become increasingly willing to compete for the mass
market sales they would in the past have conceded
to rivals.

(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals
(B) they would have conceded previously to their
rivals
(C) that in the past would have been conceded
previously to rivals
(D) it previously would have conceded to rivals in
the past
(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals

I know the correct answer is E..but I have a doubt..'it would in the past have conceded to rivals' is a clause..so why there is no comma or conjunction before it?

Why do you need either a comma or a conjunction here? The sentence would be incomplete without the clause that you have raised concern about.
Well, I have seen and noticed that the rules do help in sentence correction but it is the intent of the sentence that you have to capture and implement in the correct answer choice.

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10 Jun 2012, 12:04
mittal82 wrote:
farukqmul wrote:
As its sales of computer products have surpassed
those of measuring instruments, the company has
become increasingly willing to compete for the mass
market sales they would in the past have conceded
to rivals.

(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals
(B) they would have conceded previously to their
rivals
(C) that in the past would have been conceded
previously to rivals
(D) it previously would have conceded to rivals in
the past
(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals

I know the correct answer is E..but I have a doubt..'it would in the past have conceded to rivals' is a clause..so why there is no comma or conjunction before it?

Why do you need either a comma or a conjunction here? The sentence would be incomplete without the clause that you have raised concern about.
Well, I have seen and noticed that the rules do help in sentence correction but it is the intent of the sentence that you have to capture and implement in the correct answer choice.

Good luck!

the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales...is this not a complete sentence?I thought the last part requires a 'that' or a 'comma' or an 'and'..Please can you explain where I am wrong ?
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10 Jun 2012, 13:45
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3/2 split right in the beginning.

- "As its" declares that the company is singular. :. Kill A & B.
- Eliminate C for redundancy with "in the past" and "previously"
- D or E?
- Eliminate D for same reason.
- E is Last Man Standing.

As per your question, the beauty of the process of elimination is it doesn't matter. Every answer is wrong somehow. Furthermore, you are in fact misreading that. That part at the end isn't an independent clause so much as a modifier.

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11 Jun 2012, 07:50
Solving by elimination..right?

Thanks mate.

3/2 split right in the beginning.

- "As its" declares that the company is singular. :. Kill A & B.
- Eliminate C for redundancy with "in the past" and "previously"
- D or E?
- Eliminate D for same reason.
- E is Last Man Standing.

As per your question, the beauty of the process of elimination is it doesn't matter. Every answer is wrong somehow. Furthermore, you are in fact misreading that. That part at the end isn't an independent clause so much as a modifier.

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13 Jul 2012, 06:02
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Furthermore, you are in fact misreading that. That part at the end isn't an independent clause so much as a modifier.

isn't a rule to join independent-dependent clauses using sub-ordinating conjunctions OR relative clause. 2 clause here are
>>> the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales (independent)
>>> it would in the past have conceded to rivals (dependent)
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10 Mar 2015, 01:38
As its sales of computer products have surpassed those of measuring instruments, the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales they would in the past have conceded to rivals.

(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals

(B) they would have conceded previously to their rivals

(C) that in the past would have been conceded previously to rivals
"would have been" is unecessary lengthy

(D) it previously would have conceded to rivals in the past

(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals
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20 Mar 2017, 14:45
Hi, I am confused about the construction of the phrase, I was looking for a that to connect the two clauses and found it only in D which is wordy.

the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales they would in the past have conceded

Is it not two independent clauses?
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LHC8717 wrote:
Hi, I am confused about the construction of the phrase, I was looking for a that to connect the two clauses and found it only in D which is wordy.

the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales they would in the past have conceded

Is it not two independent clauses?
Here you're looking at a relative (dependent) clause in which the that has been "understood" away.

The company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales it would in the past have conceded to rivals.

is a shorter way of saying

The company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales that it would in the past have conceded to rivals.

Is the LHC in your name for the Large Hadron Collider by any chance?
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21 Mar 2017, 05:57
AjiteshArun wrote:
LHC8717 wrote:
Hi, I am confused about the construction of the phrase, I was looking for a that to connect the two clauses and found it only in D which is wordy.

the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales they would in the past have conceded

Is it not two independent clauses?
Here you're looking at a relative (dependent) clause in which the that has been "understood" away.

The company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales it would in the past have conceded to rivals.

is a shorter way of saying

The company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales that it would in the past have conceded to rivals.

Is the LHC in your name for the Large Hadron Collider by any chance?

Thanks, it's clear now !

Unfortunately it's for the name of my town's ice hockey team ( Lausanne hockey club )
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21 Mar 2017, 17:15
As its sales of computer products have surpassed those of measuring instruments, the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales they would in the past have conceded
to rivals.
(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals
(B) they would have conceded previously to their rivals
(C) that in the past would have been conceded previously to rivals
(D) it previously would have conceded to rivals in the past
(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals

Company is collective noun and singular.also previously and in the past means the same and redundent.
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23 Mar 2017, 09:16
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Unfortunately it's for the name of my town's ice hockey team ( Lausanne hockey club )
Haha... I learn something new on GMAT Club every day
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24 Mar 2017, 08:46
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LHC8717 wrote:
Unfortunately it's for the name of my town's ice hockey team ( Lausanne hockey club )
Haha... I learn something new on GMAT Club every day

One more fact, the Cern is situated within 50 kilometers from my ice hockey team
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25 Mar 2017, 08:39
They is wrong.
A,B eliminated.

C,D- 'previously' and 'in the past' are together.
Eliminated
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Straight E.
(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals
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25 Jun 2017, 09:33
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26 Jun 2017, 08:25
Greetings everyone
I have a question regarding option C.
If we remove previously from C would it be correct then, ignoring passive construction.
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26 Jun 2017, 10:07
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Greetings everyone
I have a question regarding option C.
If we remove previously from C would it be correct then, ignoring passive construction.

Hello arvind910619,

Use of previously most certainly creates redundancy error in Choice C. So removing this word from Choice C will surly take care of this error.

The passive construction in Choice C fails to convey that it is the company that would have conceded the mass market sales to rivals in the past. Since this information is exclusively present in the original choice, removal of this information in Choice C leads to distortion in the intended meaning. Hence, use of passive voice actually makes Choice C incorrect.

Hope this helps.
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26 Jun 2017, 10:26
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arvind910619 wrote:
Greetings everyone
I have a question regarding option C.
If we remove previously from C would it be correct then, ignoring passive construction.

Hello arvind910619,

Use of previously most certainly creates redundancy error in Choice C. So removing this word from Choice C will surly take care of this error.

The passive construction in Choice C fails to convey that it is the company that would have conceded the mass market sales to rivals in the past. Since this information is exclusively present in the original choice, removal of this information in Choice C leads to distortion in the intended meaning. Hence, use of passive voice actually makes Choice C incorrect.

Hope this helps.
Thanks.

Thanks Shraddha for making this very clear
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