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Because you have not a comma before 'and.' When you create another IC in a two-part sentence, then a comma is customary to indicate that a new IC is being made.

In the second, you might see that there is no IC after ' and.'
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gmat4varun wrote:
Is first sentence wrong?

1. I want to say that India is a great country and I love this country .

2. I want to say that India is a great country and that I love this country .

Hi Varun, in regards to repetition of that, you might want to refer to my detailed response here.
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At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

that is not after and so we can get rid of A,B,C
D is in passive tone and the GMAT likes active tone


(A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available

(B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections

(C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections

(D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available - PASSIVE

(E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available
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anurag16 wrote:
Hi Experts,

I have one more doubt. I eliminated the choices based on the following reasoning that the sentence should be of form:-

At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that One thing, and that Second thing.

or it should be of the form

At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that One thing, and expected that another thing.

However, the correct ans seems to be something like:- said that 1 and that they expected 2 which seems to me a bit awkward.
At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available


Your first interpretation is correct. The representatives said 2 things:

1. They said that there were about a million copies.
2. They also said that they expected piracy to increase.

The green highlighted portions are what the representatives said. (The verb "expected" is not parallel to the verb "said").


Hi sayantanc2k,

I have two clarfications that i request from you
FIRST:
hey i guess representatives did not say two things . Its the correct answer choice whose meaning tells us that rept said two things. But the original sentence i interpreted as follows.
Lets see how the sentence structure is made:
At the end of 2001, { modifier that modifies the mani verb giving us more information as to when the action was done}
motion picture industry representatives { Main Subject is representatives }
said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online {Main verb 1 is said, IV there were is SV pair of dependent clause}
and
expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections { Main verb 2 is expected}
that become more widely available. { its a modifying clause which provides more information about internet connections}

SO removing all flux we have
Rept said X and expected Y.
The main error here I see is with usage of relative clause.
1. SV agreement error in the relative clause.
2. This clause gives us the impression as if there were to Internet connection , and only the high speed connections would cause piracy to increase.

I am not debating the correct answer. Correct answer has a different meaning than the original sentence.
Now coming back to how its interpreted above
(X)Representatives said that there were about a million copies. Fine
(a)Representatives also said that they expected piracy to increase.
or
(b)Representatives also expected piracy to increase.

The original sentence is X & b, where as correct answer is X & A


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Option D:
online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available

increase of is unidiomatic , it should be increase in.
Also the way D is worded . They expected the increase of piracy gives us the meaning that in past also there was a similar increase.

If i replace as with because/ while
that they expected the increase of piracy because high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available

that they expected the increase of piracy while high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available

So usage of as which shows action happening simultaneously and future conditional. would become is incorrect.
I was not very much convinced rejecting Option D on "as and would become"fronts because people usually use this kind in their emails, so any thoughts on that.

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I have a doubt regarding option E . comma with and ( ,and ) should present an Independent clause . Hpwever in option E , the sentence goes " ,and that they ..... widely available"
Is this to be considered a Independent clause with a relative pronoun "that"

I have the same doubt? Is “that they expected piracy...available” an independent clause? If not, why is and preceded with a comma?

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Hello Everyone!

This is a great example of a GMAT question that focuses on consistent verb tense! Let's start by looking at the question carefully, and identify any major differences between the options by highlighting them in orange:

At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

(A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available
(B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
(C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
(D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
(E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available

Since we know that this question focuses mainly on verb consistency, here are a couple places we can focus on:

1. expected / expect
2. became available / become available / the wider availability of


To begin, we need to determine when these events take place: in the past, present, or future? Let's look at the entire sentence for clues:

At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

This takes place in 2001, which is clearly in the past! So, let's make sure all the verbs in each option reflect that:

(A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available

This is INCORRECT because it uses the present tense "become" instead of the past tense "became." Since this all takes place in the past, it's best to keep all the verbs in some form of past tense!

(B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections

This is INCORRECT because it uses the present tense "expect" for an event that took place in 2001, which is clearly in the past and requires past tense verbs to match!

(C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections

Again, this is INCORRECT because it uses the present tense "expect" to describe a past event!

(D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available

This is INCORRECT because it uses the present tense "become" to describe a past event.

(E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available

This is CORRECT! It uses past tense verbs consistently throughout the sentence to indicate that everything in the sentence occurred in the past!


There you have it - option E is the best choice because it uses consistent verb tenses!


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Hi chetan2u,

Thanks for your response. As you said-"we are not talking in past about a future event but an ongoing event".

If I talk about the word "expect" means "regard (something) as likely to happen."

expect means which is "likely to happen" not "happening currently".
According to me the usage of word "expect" by itself means that the rep are anticipating that something WILL take place.

I don't understand how did you reach to the point that its an ongoing event.

Can you please assist.

Also what do you mean by "The biggest error is the use of the possessive -the increase of piracy."..?
Can you tell me in simple language.. :roll:

Thanks and Regards,
Prakhar


The word *with* is the key.

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Hi EMPOWERgmatVerbal,

I agree that it describe a past event but "representatives said that"........that they "expect" something will happen in future I am not getting how it could be expected, I believe we need to use "ed" if today someone is saying that they had expected in past that something will happen.

Could you please advise where my understanding is going wrong.

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Hello Everyone!

At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

(C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections

Again, this is INCORRECT because it uses the present tense "expect" to describe a past event!


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At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.


Intent: The time period is past, at the end of 2001.
more piracy to increase - Illogical construction

(A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available
Tense gets changes, become - present tense

(B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
increase of piracy - illogical construction

(C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
Removed on the basis of

(D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
increase of piracy - illogical construction

(E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available
That X, and That Y is ||
They had made this prediction in past, as per the timeline.
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At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.


(A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available

(B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections

(C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections

(D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available

(E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available

If we will check the opt. D and E, Look closely: The correct idiom is expected to. Not expected of ( So D goes out, the correct answer is E)
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At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

Look at these options: 1. At the end of 2001 (PAST)
2.epresentatives said (PAST)
3.there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies (PAST)
4.and expected piracy to increase with (PAST)

( you can see all are talking about the past so how can we say expect. It should be expected.
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It's not an absolute rule that ", and" must introduces an independent clause. The GMAT will often throw an extra comma or two into a sentence in an attempt to improve clarity. For instance, see my comments on this one: https://gmatclub.com/forum/covering-71- ... s#p2233836
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