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Hi Experts,

I am wondering why expected cannot be parallel with said, i.e. representatives said... AND expected...

If I wanna express such meaning, how can I rephrase the sentence?

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At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available
B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available


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Just to add to the explanations that were made here:

One of the key point in this question is to understand how to descibed somthing that someone said:
- Now - Dan:I expect that prices would increase as high-speed Internet becomes more avaliable"
- Future - A person describing what Dan said: " Dan expected that prices would increase as high-speed internet became more available".

Basically we need to take the verbs and bring them past of the tense they are mentioned it.

Another thing to notice is the use of could. Could is used to show some uncertanity (expectation/assumption etc..).

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I am bit confused by this comment - Please help clarify which of below 2 sentences is correct

- Now - Dan:I expect that prices will increase as high-speed Internet becomes more avaliable"
- Now - Dan:I expect that prices would increase as high-speed Internet becomes more avaliable"

The overall tense is present - so for a future event, a simple future tense verb 'will' should be correct, right ?

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AbdurRakib wrote:
At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available
B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available


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Just to add to the explanations that were made here:

One of the key point in this question is to understand how to descibed somthing that someone said:
- Now - Dan:I expect that prices would increase as high-speed Internet becomes more avaliable"
- Future - A person describing what Dan said: " Dan expected that prices would increase as high-speed internet became more available".

Basically we need to take the verbs and bring them past of the tense they are mentioned it.

Another thing to notice is the use of could. Could is used to show some uncertanity (expectation/assumption etc..).

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Have posted the question - usage of will vs would in a sentence given by another user.

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I am bit confused by this comment - Please help clarify which of below 2 sentences is correct

- Now - Dan:I expect that prices will increase as high-speed Internet becomes more avaliable"
- Now - Dan:I expect that prices would increase as high-speed Internet becomes more avaliable"

The overall tense is present - so for a future event, a simple future tense verb 'will' should be correct, right ?

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AbdurRakib wrote:
At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available
B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available


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Just to add to the explanations that were made here:

One of the key point in this question is to understand how to descibed somthing that someone said:
- Now - Dan:I expect that prices would increase as high-speed Internet becomes more avaliable"
- Future - A person describing what Dan said: " Dan expected that prices would increase as high-speed internet became more available".

Basically we need to take the verbs and bring them past of the tense they are mentioned it.

Another thing to notice is the use of could. Could is used to show some uncertanity (expectation/assumption etc..).


The correct usages are as follows:

Statement/ expectation in present: I expect that prices will increase as high-speed Internet becomes more available.
Statement/ expectation in past: I expected that prices would increase as high-speed Internet became more available.

All verbs within the statement / expectation goes on step back along with the main verb (expect / said etc.) of the sentence.

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Hi Experts,

I am wondering why expected cannot be parallel with said, i.e. representatives said... AND expected...

If I wanna express such meaning, how can I rephrase the sentence?

Many thanks!


The verbs "said" and " expected" can be parallel. Option A is wrong because of wrong modifier usage leading to erroneous meaning.

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Can you please assist with the following doubts -

1. Is "would become" correct/incorrect in option D?
2. Is the usage of "with" in place of "as" in option A, B, and C correct/incorrect?


1. No - the correct usage would be "became". Please see the post: at-the-end-of-2001-motion-picture-industry-representatives-said-that-220348-20.html#p1788398

2. No - "Piracy increases with availability" would be correct. (piracy increases, as availability increases.) - "X increases with Y" implies that as X increases, Y also increases. Thus, "Piracy increases with high-speed internet" /"piracy increases with wider availability" both are wrong.

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D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available
i understand that in option D, usage of 'expected the increase of piracy' is wrong n this issue is corrected in option E
in option E, if i modify the sentence as below, will it be correct?

E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available

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At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available
B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available


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Is second "that " needed? cant we have only one that for two statements made by a person?

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Imo E
This is case of open parallelism X and Y
So we need that to maintain parallelism
Indirect speech so the verb should be in past tense

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Is first sentence wrong?

1. I want to say that India is a great country and I love this country .

2. I want to say that India is a great country and that I love this country .

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Experts, please assist ..

For D and E specifically, is the construction still X and Y ?

Isnt there a comma before and, implying the second half of the sentence has to be an independent clause..i dont see how the bolded region in D and E can stand by itself ...it seems like a dependent clause

In fact, seems like i need to remove the "That" in D and E for these reds to stand alone

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At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available
B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available

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At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available

D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available

increase in piracy NOT Increase of piracy

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Can you please assist with the following doubts -

1. Is "would become" correct/incorrect in option D?
2. Is the usage of "with" in place of "as" in option A, B, and C correct/incorrect?


1. No - the correct usage would be "became". Please see the post: http://gmatclub.com/forum/at-the-end-of ... l#p1788398

2. No - "Piracy increases with availability" would be correct. (piracy increases, as availability increases.) - "X increases with Y" implies that as X increases, Y also increases. Thus, "Piracy increases with high-speed internet" /"piracy increases with wider availability" both are wrong.


Is iit true that in a reported speech like they said/ reported- simple present becomes past tense and present perfect tense becomes past past perfect.

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Hi Experts,

I have one more doubt. I eliminated the choices based on the following reasoning that the sentence should be of form:-

At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that One thing, and that Second thing.

or it should be of the form

At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that One thing, and expected that another thing.

However, the correct ans seems to be something like:- said that 1 and that they expected 2 which seems to me a bit awkward.
At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available


Your first interpretation is correct. The representatives said 2 things:

1. They said that there were about a million copies.
2. They also said that they expected piracy to increase.

The green highlighted portions are what the representatives said. (The verb "expected" is not parallel to the verb "said").


can you clear what i am missing : I understood the meaning as : Motion picture industry said that there were about a million copy of hollywood movies available online, and Motion picture industry expected piracy to increase with high - speed internet connections that became more widely available.

with that sense i was inclined to select A, only error i thought was become must be became. else A was correct.

my doubt is since expected can be tapped on to either with motion picture industry (or) said that they expected, is it becoming ambiguous in usage!

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Hi Experts,

I have one more doubt. I eliminated the choices based on the following reasoning that the sentence should be of form:-

At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that One thing, and that Second thing.

or it should be of the form

At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that One thing, and expected that another thing.

However, the correct ans seems to be something like:- said that 1 and that they expected 2 which seems to me a bit awkward.
At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available


Your first interpretation is correct. The representatives said 2 things:

1. They said that there were about a million copies.
2. They also said that they expected piracy to increase.

The green highlighted portions are what the representatives said. (The verb "expected" is not parallel to the verb "said").


can you clear what i am missing : I understood the meaning as : Motion picture industry said that there were about a million copy of hollywood movies available online, and Motion picture industry expected piracy to increase with high - speed internet connections that became more widely available.

with that sense i was inclined to select A, only error i thought was become must be became. else A was correct.

my doubt is since expected can be tapped on to either with motion picture industry (or) said that they expected, is it becoming ambiguous in usage!

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can you please clarify this :

As high speed internet connections became more widely available, motion picture industry expected piracy would increase.
As high speed internet connections became more widely available, motion picture industry expected piracy to increase.

is both statement correct?
is first statement from conditional talking about future
and second statement assuming piracy has already started to increase

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hey experts -- i didn't like "more widely". couldn't this technically be a case for redundancy?

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At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available
B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available


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shouldn't it be that x and that y
instead of that x, and that y.


Hi! IMO, if 'and' is followed by a complete sentence with its own subject and verb, then it should be preceded by ','.

they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available


You still have "that" before "they expected piracy to....."
Comma + and is used in lists OR to join 2 independent clauses.
In option E, "that" before "they expected...." does not make the portion independent clause.

"and" without a comma would have been preferable. Where am I incorrect ?

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