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At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.


(A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available

(B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections

(C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections

(D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available

(E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available

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Hi Experts / chetan2u / mikemcgarry,

The sentence states that "At the end of 2001" Motion picture industry representative said 2 things-
1) that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online
2) expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

We need "That" after "and" to the sentence parallel. Only D and E left.

Furthermore, the sentence also mentions that they (representatives) "EXPECT" something-->
What do they expect..? that something will take place in future..
Therefore, if the sentence talks about past and we want to show future--> We need to use "WOULD"

So, D should be the answer.
Can you please assist whats wrong in this..?

If I talk about option E, the verbs "expected" and 'became" shows simultaneous actions and so the intended meaning is lost.



Please assist.
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Hi,

The biggest error is the use of the possessive -the increase of piracy.
we can expect piracy to increase BUT expected the increase of piracy is not correct..
So E wins over D immediately


Now the point about became and expected.... they are not parallel...
AS is used as a conjuction here and means at the same time/ while one act is happening..

so it conveys that the rep expected the piracy to increase while high-speed internet connections became more widely available..
herewe are not talking in past about a future event but an ongoing eventwherein the high-speed internet connections are already in use and are being spread
so E is ok in tense too..
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Few things to notice:-

1) Representatives said two things- that there were about a million copies and that increase of piracy is expected. A and B are out because 'that' is not present.
2) Sentence must be in past tense (expected and not expect). more and increase are redundant- C is out
3) Reps stated the general principle that with increase in high-speed internet, piracy is expected to increase. For stating a general principle 'would is nit required. D is out.

E is the answer
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At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said
that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online,
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that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available
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At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available
B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available


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I dont understand why D is wrong? as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available => usage of would seems more appropriate in the context. It's a future thing they are talking about right.
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Hi Experts / chetan2u / mikemcgarry,

The sentence states that "At the end of 2001" Motion picture industry representative said 2 things-
1) that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online
2) expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

We need "That" after "and" to the sentence parallel. Only D and E left.

Furthermore, the sentence also mentions that they (representatives) "EXPECT" something-->
What do they expect..? that something will take place in future..
Therefore, if the sentence talks about past and we want to show future--> We need to use "WOULD"

So, D should be the answer.
Can you please assist whats wrong in this..?

If I talk about option E, the verbs "expected" and 'became" shows simultaneous actions and so the intended meaning is lost.

Please assist.
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Hi chetan2u,

Thanks for your response. As you said-"we are not talking in past about a future event but an ongoing event".

If I talk about the word "expect" means "regard (something) as likely to happen."

expect means which is "likely to happen" not "happening currently".
According to me the usage of word "expect" by itself means that the rep are anticipating that something WILL take place.

I don't understand how did you reach to the point that its an ongoing event.

Can you please assist.

Also what do you mean by "The biggest error is the use of the possessive -the increase of piracy."..?
Can you tell me in simple language.. :roll:

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Hi chetan2u,

Thanks for your response. As you said-"we are not talking in past about a future event but an ongoing event".

If I talk about the word "expect" means "regard (something) as likely to happen."

expect means which is "likely to happen" not "happening currently".
According to me the usage of word "expect" by itself means that the rep are anticipating that something WILL take place.

I don't understand how did you reach to the point that its an ongoing event.

Can you please assist.

Also what do you mean by "The biggest error is the use of the possessive -the increase of piracy."..?
Can you tell me in simple language.. :roll:

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Not idiomatic.

You can say: "I expect global warming to worsen as more greenhouse gasses get released into the atmosphere".
This would be idiomatically incorrect: "I expect global warming to worsen as more greenhouse gasses will get released into the atmosphere."

"An increase in piracy" would be grammatically correct. "The increase of piracy" is not.
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Hi Experts,

I have one more doubt. I eliminated the choices based on the following reasoning that the sentence should be of form:-

At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that One thing, and that Second thing.

or it should be of the form

At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that One thing, and expected that another thing.

However, the correct ans seems to be something like:- said that 1 and that they expected 2 which seems to me a bit awkward.
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Hi Experts,

I have one more doubt. I eliminated the choices based on the following reasoning that the sentence should be of form:-

At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that One thing, and that Second thing.

or it should be of the form

At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that One thing, and expected that another thing.

However, the correct ans seems to be something like:- said that 1 and that they expected 2 which seems to me a bit awkward.
At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available


Your first interpretation is correct. The representatives said 2 things:

1. They said that there were about a million copies.
2. They also said that they expected piracy to increase.

The green highlighted portions are what the representatives said. (The verb "expected" is not parallel to the verb "said").
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AbdurRakib wrote:
At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available
B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available


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shouldn't it be that x and that y
instead of that x, and that y.


Hi! IMO, if 'and' is followed by a complete sentence with its own subject and verb, then it should be preceded by ','.

they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available
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why option D is wrong??
D is correct because :
1. from past the future is represented with would (MGMAT )

2. that they expected increase...they didnt expect piracy...they expected increase and increase of piracy only..

please correct me..
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why option D is wrong??
D is correct because :
1. from past the future is represented with would (MGMAT )

2. that they expected increase...they didnt expect piracy...they expected increase and increase of piracy only..

please correct me..


Consider the following sentence:

They expect piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections become more widely available.

If the above statement is used within a statement in past, then each verb moves one step back (present becomes simple past, simple past becomes past perfect, and future becomes conditional).

In the above sentence, the verb "become" is in simple present, and hence when used within a statement in simple past, simple present "become" becomes simple past "became".
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At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available
B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available


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Just to add to the explanations that were made here:

One of the key point in this question is to understand how to descibed somthing that someone said:
- Now - Dan:I expect that prices would increase as high-speed Internet becomes more avaliable"
- Future - A person describing what Dan said: " Dan expected that prices would increase as high-speed internet became more available".

Basically we need to take the verbs and bring them past of the tense they are mentioned it.

Another thing to notice is the use of could. Could is used to show some uncertanity (expectation/assumption etc..).
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I am bit confused by this comment - Please help clarify which of below 2 sentences is correct

- Now - Dan:I expect that prices will increase as high-speed Internet becomes more avaliable"
- Now - Dan:I expect that prices would increase as high-speed Internet becomes more avaliable"

The overall tense is present - so for a future event, a simple future tense verb 'will' should be correct, right ?

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AbdurRakib wrote:
At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available
B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available


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Just to add to the explanations that were made here:

One of the key point in this question is to understand how to descibed somthing that someone said:
- Now - Dan:I expect that prices would increase as high-speed Internet becomes more avaliable"
- Future - A person describing what Dan said: " Dan expected that prices would increase as high-speed internet became more available".

Basically we need to take the verbs and bring them past of the tense they are mentioned it.

Another thing to notice is the use of could. Could is used to show some uncertanity (expectation/assumption etc..).
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I am bit confused by this comment - Please help clarify which of below 2 sentences is correct

- Now - Dan:I expect that prices will increase as high-speed Internet becomes more avaliable"
- Now - Dan:I expect that prices would increase as high-speed Internet becomes more avaliable"

The overall tense is present - so for a future event, a simple future tense verb 'will' should be correct, right ?

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The correct usages are as follows:

Statement/ expectation in present: I expect that prices will increase as high-speed Internet becomes more available.
Statement/ expectation in past: I expected that prices would increase as high-speed Internet became more available.

All verbs within the statement / expectation goes on step back along with the main verb (expect / said etc.) of the sentence.
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I am wondering why expected cannot be parallel with said, i.e. representatives said... AND expected...

If I wanna express such meaning, how can I rephrase the sentence?

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The verbs "said" and " expected" can be parallel. Option A is wrong because of wrong modifier usage leading to erroneous meaning.
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Can you please assist with the following doubts -

1. Is "would become" correct/incorrect in option D?
2. Is the usage of "with" in place of "as" in option A, B, and C correct/incorrect?


1. No - the correct usage would be "became". Please see the post: at-the-end-of-2001-motion-picture-industry-representatives-said-that-220348-20.html#p1788398

2. No - "Piracy increases with availability" would be correct. (piracy increases, as availability increases.) - "X increases with Y" implies that as X increases, Y also increases. Thus, "Piracy increases with high-speed internet" /"piracy increases with wider availability" both are wrong.
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1. I want to say that India is a great country and I love this country .

2. I want to say that India is a great country and that I love this country .
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I have a doubt regarding option E . comma with and ( ,and ) should present an Independent clause . Hpwever in option E , the sentence goes " ,and that they ..... widely available"
Is this to be considered a Independent clause with a relative pronoun "that"
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