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... lots of ways to consider the answer to the question ... "So, where should I go to get my MBA?"

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bb, thanks a ton for taking time out from your busy schedule and combining this list .
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bb Thanks for compiling this.. where would German MBA programs figure on this list? The higher tax rates could possibly impact the ROI significantly.
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bb Thanks for compiling this.. where would German MBA programs figure on this list? The higher tax rates could possibly impact the ROI significantly.

I think you can easily calculate it for a program or two using my approach.

1. Look up the cost of attendance
2. Find average salary
3. Calculate a loan payment and find a tax calculator for Germany
4. Look up cost of living for Frankfurt
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bb Thanks for compiling this.. where would German MBA programs figure on this list? The higher tax rates could possibly impact the ROI significantly.

I think you can easily calculate it for a program or two using my approach.

1. Look up the cost of attendance
2. Find average salary
3. Calculate a loan payment and find a tax calculator for Germany
4. Look up cost of living for Frankfurt
Done.

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Fair Enough.Will do that!
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Thanks. Would be great if you could post your results here. I am curious how they compare as well!

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Thanks. Would be great if you could post your results here. I am curious how they compare as well!

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Here are the numbers for German Programs:
1. ESMT Berlin( 1yr)

Program cost: 58,500 euros (approx 70,837$)
Avg Compensation : 87,500 euros ( approx $115,000 adjusted to COL factor of 0.92)
Effective compensation: $63,161
Cost of living in Berlin: 1250 euro/monthly

2. HHL Leipzig( 21 month option)

Program cost: $71442
Avg Compensation :84,235 euros ( approx $101,999 adjusted to COL factor of 0.92)
Effective compensation: $55,223
Cost of living in Leipzig: 1000 euro/monthly

Please note that the tax rate considered is 40%.

This implies that the German MBA programs are fairly average in terms of the ROI.
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Here are the numbers for German Programs:
1. ESMT Berlin( 1yr)

Program cost: 58,500 euros (approx 70,837$)
Avg Compensation : 87,500 euros ( approx $115,000 adjusted to COL factor of 0.92)
Effective compensation: $63,161
Cost of living in Berlin: 1250 euro/monthly

2. HHL Leipzig( 21 month option)

Program cost: $71442
Avg Compensation :84,235 euros ( approx $101,999 adjusted to COL factor of 0.92)
Effective compensation: $55,223
Cost of living in Leipzig: 1000 euro/monthly

Please note that the tax rate considered is 40%.

This implies that the German MBA programs are fairly average in terms of the ROI.

Key takeaway is that the cost of education is relatively lower. Even for a 21 month program.
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Hello BB,

Please include IIM ABC as in ROI they are better than ISB. Also if you adjust cost of living and increase ISB income, did you consider Purchasing power parity as well.

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Hello BB,

Please include IIM ABC as in ROI they are better than ISB. Also if you adjust cost of living and increase ISB income, did you consider Purchasing power parity as well.

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Thanks! Let me do that.... I may have to do this a bit later after the MBA Spotlight :dazed :lol:
P.S. I included cost of living which should be analogous to purchasing power/parity.
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I'm generally of the opinion that this information, as presented, is potentially more harmful than helpful.
How?

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How in the world in Stern above HBS in ROI.

ALTHOUGH I do know that the scholarship and stuff can bring the cost down

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How in the world in Stern above HBS in ROI.

ALTHOUGH I do know that the scholarship and stuff can bring the cost down

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Interesting observation. This is just pure numbers but makes me wonder about what kind of shoddy work I do 😂
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How in the world in Stern above HBS in ROI.

ALTHOUGH I do know that the scholarship and stuff can bring the cost down

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Interesting observation. This is just pure numbers but makes me wonder about what kind of shoddy work I do 😂
It's still good though.
Assuming zero scholarship is fine with US top 20. Beyond 20, figures will shake a lot. I think forbes got the years to payback thing in place. ALL I had to do is substract my scholarship and calculate the 5 year MBA gain. Turns out, I would've earned 80k less from HBS. I Even did one for UofT and I'm just happy that I'm escaping the easy way. Too poor to take that risk
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Hi bb, thanks for this information.

I have a question regarding the salary reported for LBS. Official sources show LBS grads have a post MBA salary of ~113k usd. Here, we have used 168k. Im assuming you're using salaries adjusted for PPP from FT rankings etc. However from a calculation of ROI perspective, wouldn't it be more accurate to use the actual values (113k) rather than salaries adjusted for PPP given cost of attendance is based on actuals.

Please let me know if I'm missing something here?

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All income should be actual values of Salary + Bonus from a year or so ago when this was put together. Some salaries were in other currencies and I conveyed them to USD at the rates at the time of publication.


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Hi bb, thanks for this information.

I have a question regarding the salary reported for LBS. Official sources show LBS grads have a post MBA salary of ~113k usd. Here, we have used 168k. Im assuming you're using salaries adjusted for PPP from FT rankings etc. However from a calculation of ROI perspective, wouldn't it be more accurate to use the actual values (113k) rather than salaries adjusted for PPP given cost of attendance is based on actuals.

Please let me know if I'm missing something here?

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