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ppzz, I'm sure you'll find plenty of examples of women with high GMATs and GPAs who didn't make it.

My GPA is about average for the schools I applied to, and my GRE is above the mean, and I haven't made it anywhere yet. I'm non-traditional. Older than the average. That seems to offset any supposed gender advantage. And the truth is, the men AND women who make it are pretty darn impressive.

I get that you are frustrated, many of us here are in a similar position, but let go of the urge to compare yourself to others. No one is 'better' than you, and you are not 'better' than anyone. Some deserving people get in, some deserving people don't. C'est la vie.
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I think technologista has some really good points. Also, you are forgetting about the fact that the schools "job" is to create a diverse class on individuals. Diverse from ethnic/cultural standpoint/gender, but also from work experience, undergrad, and background. The fact that your friend and you had similar experiences might have made it difficult for the school to accept both.
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There's just too many things that aren't fair in life and, unless you can change it, none of them are worth getting frustrated about.

The MBA application process is really not ALL about meritocracy. It's more about what the school wants. Someone who's from a certain gender, race, or non-traditional background will have a leg up against you not necessarily because he/she worked harder, but because that person is more VALUABLE to the class for that certain year. And that's the only thing that matters, not what's fair to everyone. Once you realize this, you'll feel a lot better. :-D
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From DC area - applied 10 minutes before the deadline. No invite yet.

Question: if I have retaken GMAT and slightly improved it from 690 to 700, should I send a short notice about this to the adcom?
(they said that they do not mind it, but since that's a smaller change in the score that I wanted - I'm not sure if I should do that)

My friend I was in your boat last month. I retook the GMAT and went from 690 to 720. Though the increase was small, I got my min. 80/80 split. So I sent in an email to MIT admissions and here is the reply I got

"Dear XXXXXXX,

Thank you for this important update, and I’ve added it to your file. Congratulations on the higher score.

YYYYYYY"

I would say go ahead and do it. But again if you are R1 it may be too late. I did it a three weeks ago so I may have still snuck in.
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Anyone from cities close to NYC, DC, or Boston get interviews yet? For example, Philly?
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I have been lurking around for a while. I am so frustrated after getting ding from Duke. A friend of mine with same college, low GPA and GMAT, similar work profile she got in and I got dinged. I sincerely think all these top schools should stop bragging about promoting Women . It's not just fair

This reeks of (not so hidden) sexism, and may I add racism if you feel the same way towards Consortium applicants? Perhaps you should re-review your Duke application and find things that can make you stronger for R2 as opposed to wallowing in self-pity over why you got dinged and your friend got accepted.
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what the hell was that post, lets get back to reality please, if you write like that no wonder you got dinged all over the place. your profile and hers are very close, its not some statistics contest where they say 750>720; both are incredible scores, definitely the weirdest post yet on the MIT forum...yikes
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RodgerDodger - thanks for the congrats, appreciate it.

For the recent comments above stemming from ppzz - I think everyone (ppzz included) should take a step back and realize that admissions truly is an art and not a science, and that it's all about selection and not simply evaluation. E.g. - Dee Leopold brags that her candidate pool as a whole boasts an average GMAT of over 700, yet their score range according to their recently published class profile handed out at Dillon House shows the range being 480-800. Clearly, there was something about Miss or Mister 480 that put them above the plethora of applicants with 700+ scores.

Those of us who have been in a hiring role at work understand this - we know of the subjectivity that goes into the process of picking 1 in 5 job applicants, and what draws our attention to a particular applicant.

AdCom members do the exact same thing - they'll review your entire app, but once your statistics are no longer of any concern (i.e. you're not applying with a 2.5 and a 500 GMAT), then they'll turn to the rest of your application, and compare it to the rest of the apps they've read.

Diversity - of age, race, ethnicity, experience, industry, sexual orientation, disability, etc. - is valued as part of the process because employers value it, and because schools of higher education view themselves as bastions of progress. Coming to recognize and accept this, and using it to your advantage in the process, instead of matching up similarities to other applicants as you see it and being upset at the result, would yield the most fruit.

I applied to Tuck EA, and frankly I'm not sure what's going to happen there because it was my first app, and frankly I've learned a lot in the process as to how to best present my story. We've all read good and bad books and know the difference when we see it - this is exactly what AdCom members are doing.

Best of luck to you all.
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When they ask to bring a copy of the transcript to the interview, does that mean they keep that copy? What if you have only one copy of your transcript and it is not possible to get another copy from the school?
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When they ask to bring a copy of the transcript to the interview, does that mean they keep that copy? What if you have only one copy of your transcript and it is not possible to get another copy from the school?

Yes, they'll keep it. The latter question is best posed to the person who is listed as the contact individual in the Interview Invite email - personally, I'm able to order up to 10 copies of my transcript from my school for free and I usually get it in a few days.
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Hey folks... are we having fun yet?

In all seriousness... let's take it down a few notches on this thread. I know everyone's stressed out and worried about getting into the schools of their dreams... but let's refrain from any sexist comments, or even calling someone a sexist, racist, douchebag etc. for that matter.

We're at a 10... I need everyone at about a 7... Let's act like the adults that we are. 8-)
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I have been lurking around for a while. I am so frustrated after getting ding from Duke. A friend of mine with same college, low GPA and GMAT, similar work profile she got in and I got dinged. I sincerely think all these top schools should stop bragging about promoting Women . It's not just fair

I am sorry that you had to go through a tough experience. It is'nt easy for a woman anywhere.
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Wow ppzz, thats bitterness taken to a whole new level. Since applications are time for introspection, I would say try to think of an example where you got an opportunity in life that another person with similar brains etc. did not. To give you an hint, how about billions of starving people in the world? Is that fair?
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I have been lurking around for a while. I am so frustrated after getting ding from Duke. A friend of mine with same college, low GPA and GMAT, similar work profile she got in and I got dinged. I sincerely think all these top schools should stop bragging about promoting Women . It's not just fair

My day in the bar was just waiting for your post . 3 Ds made my day today..ding duchebag like you and now drinks.

I am not sure what you exactly mean by not fair. maybe my example will resolve some conflicts in your mind.

I will give you an example of a girl who was born to a filthy rich family ( India). Till high school 3 cars escorted her to school.She had damn every luxury in her life except the privilege of higher education and she had to go through many other hurdles in the name of family traditions or you can say imposed on her since she was woman. This girl gave tutions to get money to prepare for her engineering exam , cleared the exam , and took loan (although her family was capable of funding 100 engg degree)to fund her engg degree and did tutions to fund her other expenses.The struggle that you cannt even think of..Did i mention that this was her only one of many other struggles. Merit scholarship from govt of India, state champion in badminton , state level award in horse riding to name just few extra curriculars and interests. Just 4 years of work ex , 24 years old, she is now leading a team of 8-10 people . She is now writing a book. MIT admit her you will get a multi -billion dollars donation within 5 years..:D. Even after all these struggles she turned out be the most humble person with no pride for her accomplishments.
I was dinged by 3 schools ( GMAT 750, GPA 3.8) and she ( GMAT 720, GPA 3.9) got Cornell, Tepper and now MIT interview. She didnt apply to HBS and Wharton ,even though she is involved in some programs in Wharton. Poor HBS and Wharton guys(pun intended)
We both are from same college and also I was her neighbor.I should have mentioned that in my essays. just kidding

When you find any one example where a guy born to a filthy rich family is denied his basic rights send that to all these schools and tell them to stop bragging. I bet you will not find any .

There is clearly one difference between you and your colleague although you two have similar profiles besides your colleague being female. She knows how to handle failures. you need to work on that friend.

I apologize if any other readers wasted their time reading this long post. ppzz you definitely need friends like us .. ha ha.


Hey Lind,
I am frm India, spent good 20 yrs of my life in a village whr where electricity supply is akin to God's gift. But after all the backwardness I have seen in India I find it hard to believe/digest/swallow your story. Education to female gender in India is as important as to males esp for middle class & beyond....even 15 years back.
I have never heard about any such rigid family tradition of not teaching daughters in N-E-W-S(North..East....) parts of India. Not seen such stories in typical Bollywood movies as well.Which part of the country does this story belong to?

As an after thought if this 720 female is real then I must say she is above all of us to have lived in a family worth atleast $100M, yet take loans to study thn give gmat,n plan a US education! A person who would have gone thru such hardships does not need an MBA..he/she has already learnt all tht could taught at any of these schools.
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Its there on their website:

"Candidates will be invited to interviews by email, up until the decision deadlines. Decisions will be released early for some candidates who will be denied admission without an interview."
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any invites in India so far? getting worried.
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