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If a, b, and c are integers and \(a \lt b \lt c\), are a, b, and c consecutive integers?


(1) The median of {a!, b!, c!} is an odd number.

(2) c! is a prime number.

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Note that:

A. The factorial of a negative number is undefined.

B. 0!=1.

C. Only two factorials are odd: 0!=1 and 1!=1.

D. Factorial of a number which is prime is 2!=2.

(1) The median of {a!, b!, c!} is an odd number. This implies that b!=odd. Thus b is 0 or 1. But if b=0, then a is a negative number, so in this case a! is not defined. Therefore a=0 and b=1, so the set is {0!, 1!, c!}={1, 1, c!}. Now, if c=2, then the answer is YES but if c is any other number then the answer is NO. Not sufficient.

(2) c! is a prime number. This implies that c=2. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) From above we have that a=0, b=1 and c=2, thus the answer to the question is YES. Sufficient.


Answer: C
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If a, b, and c are integers and \(a \lt b \lt c\), are a, b, and c consecutive integers?


(1) The median of {a!, b!, c!} is an odd number.

(2) c! is a prime number.


I got this question wrong in the test, because I didn't pay special attention to every detail given in the question.

Here's the right solution :

1. The median of a! b! c! is an odd number, it means that b is either 0 or 1. Since we can have a!, it means that a is greater than or equal to 0. We also know that a < b < c, so a = 0, b = 1, but we have no information about c. SO, this is insufficient.

2. c! is a prime number, this means that c = 2. Here we have no information about a and b, so Insufficient.

Combining 1 & 2, we get that a = 0, b = 1, c=2.

So, C
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Statement 1:
According to the statement,median of a!,b!,c! is a odd number.
Only the factorial of integer 1 is a odd integer.Hence b should be 1 but c can be any value greater than 1.
Hence not sufficient.

Statement 2:
Only information about c.Not sufficient.

Combining both statements:
Given c! is a prime number and b=1 then,the only 2! gives a prime number 2(only even prime).
The factorial of other integers are not prime.
Hence a=0,b=1,c=2.
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Really a very nice question !! +1 for Bunuel(s). :)
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I think this question is poor and helpful.
I believe the given answer is incorrect and the correct one is B -> statement 2 by itself is sufficient. Indeed, if c! is prime then it must be 2 and since a < b < c and a,b,c are INTEGERS AND factorial is not defined for negative numbers then a and b have no other choice but to be 0 and 1 respectively! Thus, statement 2 is enough by itself. I would like to hear your comments. Thanks.
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I think this question is poor and helpful.
I believe the given answer is incorrect and the correct one is B -> statement 2 by itself is sufficient. Indeed, if c! is prime then it must be 2 and since a < b < c and a,b,c are INTEGERS AND factorial is not defined for negative numbers then a and b have no other choice but to be 0 and 1 respectively! Thus, statement 2 is enough by itself. I would like to hear your comments. Thanks.


That's NOT correct. For (2) we don't know whether a and b are positive integers. WE cannot use the info from (1) when considering the second statement.
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I think this question is good and helpful.
I think answer should be "Statement (2) ALONE is sufficient, but statement (1) alone is not sufficient." because if c=2 then a=0 and b=1 follows.
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I think this question is good and helpful.
I think answer should be "Statement (2) ALONE is sufficient, but statement (1) alone is not sufficient." because if c=2 then a=0 and b=1 follows.


The correct answer is C, not B. Solution is here: d01-183481.html#p1413612

For (2) a and b can be any integers less than 2, not necessarily 0 and 1.
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I think this is a high-quality question and I agree with explanation. Really good question
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I don't agree with the explanation. a, b, c are consecutive integers.

So, if we agree that b can only be 1 from statement 1, then, c has to be 2.
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I don't agree with the explanation. a, b, c are consecutive integers.

So, if we agree that b can only be 1 from statement 1, then, c has to be 2.


We do NOT know that a, b, and c are consecutive integers. The question is: are a, b, and c consecutive integers?
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I think this is a high-quality question and I don't agree with the explanation. Statement 2: If we know that only value for c is 2 and from Question we know a<b<c
Additionally -ve factorial is undefined, then only option we have for a, b, and c is 0, 1, 2.

Hence this should be sufficient. Please help explain if this analysis is correct.
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I think this is a high-quality question and I don't agree with the explanation. Statement 2: If we know that only value for c is 2 and from Question we know a<b<c
Additionally -ve factorial is undefined, then only option we have for a, b, and c is 0, 1, 2.

Hence this should be sufficient. Please help explain if this analysis is correct.


You cannot use info from (1) when evaluating (2).
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I think this is a high-quality question and I agree with explanation. Terrific Trick! Bunuel the Man
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I think this is a high-quality question and I agree with explanation.
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I have similar doubt like others. I appreciate your inputs.

Lets ignore Stmt A for now.
Question says, If a, b, and c are integers and a<b<c, are a, b, and c consecutive integers?
Stmt(1): ignore.
Stmt(2): c! is a prime number.
only possible number is 2. !2 =2 a prime number.
Now, a<b<c and they are integers. The only possible combination i see here is 0,1,2. I ignored combination with negative numbers such as -1,1,2 because !negative is undefined.
Where am i going wrong here?
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I have similar doubt like others. I appreciate your inputs.

Lets ignore Stmt A for now.
Question says, If a, b, and c are integers and a<b<c, are a, b, and c consecutive integers?
Stmt(1): ignore.
Stmt(2): c! is a prime number.
only possible number is 2. !2 =2 a prime number.
Now, a<b<c and they are integers. The only possible combination i see here is 0,1,2. I ignored combination with negative numbers such as -1,1,2 because !negative is undefined.
Where am i going wrong here?


You do not have factorial of a or b in stem or in (2) so you cannot ignore negative numbers.
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Ahhh... now this is embarrassing. :(
Sorry, in my stupidity i missed that part.
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