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Delta products, Inc., has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity. The question has been raised whether it can be concluded that for a given level of output, Delta’s operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly. The answer, clearly, is yes, since the amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricity needed to power the new technologies is less than the amount needed to power the older technologies, provided that the level of output is held constant.

In the argument given, the two boldface portions play which of the following roles?


A. The first identifies the content of the conclusion of the argument; the second
provides support for that conclusion.
B. The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second
identifies the content of that conclusion.
C. The first states the position that the argument opposes; the second states the
conclusion of the argument.
D. Each provides evidence that calls the conclusion of the argument into question.
E. Each provides support for the conclusion of the argument.


What dose " the content of the conclusion of the argument" mean?
I don't get it. :cry:



I think there is something wrong here. The correct answer is not E. I had this problem given in my class and the conclusion was the answer choice B. Can some one please confirm the same?


Hi nyknicks

The correct answer of this question is E, not B.

I think you saw a "similar" question in your class.

This question also has other version in which B is correct answer.

Critical Reasoning - Question #97, Official Guide 12.

Delta Products Inc. has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity. The question has been raised whether it can be concluded that for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly. The answer, clearly, is yes, since the amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricity needed to power the new technologies is less than the amount needed to power the older technologies, provided level of output is held constant

In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?
(A) The first identifies the content of the conclusion of the argument; the second provides support for that conclusion.
(B) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second identifies the content of that conclusion. ==>OA is B
(C) The first states the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
(D) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
(E) Each provides support for the conclusion of the argument.

Hope it's clear now.
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I think there is something wrong here. The correct answer is not E. I had this problem given in my class and the conclusion was the answer choice B. Can some one please confirm the same?

Dear nyknicks,
Yes, you are 100% right. I want to verify what pqhai said --- yes, this is OG12, CR #97, OA = (B). I edited the question at the head of this thread, so that the answer it gave would reflect the correct OA.
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So finally what is the answer :(.. Is it B or E? I feel it is E since like Mike says, both the statements support the conclusion.

Dear Madhu90,
I'm happy to respond. :-) If you get your hands on the OG12 (usually very easy to find in a good used bookstore) and look on p. 622, you will find the full explanation for this question, which includes the OA of (B). Choice (E) is a very good tempting answer, and I see you, among others have been tempted by it. Let's sort this out.

Here's the question, with choices (B) & (E). BTW, eybrj2 originally had the wrong second sentence in bold, which I believe contributed to a great deal of the confusion on this page.
Delta products, Inc., has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity. The question has been raised whether it can be concluded that for a given level of output, Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly. The answer, clearly, is yes, since the amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricity needed to power the new technologies is less than the amount needed to power the older technologies, provided that the level of output is held constant.

In the argument given, the two boldface portions play which of the following roles?
B. The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second identifies the content of that conclusion.
E. Each provides support for the conclusion of the argument.

With the correct sentences in bold, it's probably clearer now that this second sentence, following the words "concluded that", must be equivalent to the conclusion, not just a support for the conclusion. In the context of that entire sentence, it's posed as a question ("The question has been raised ...."), so this would make it hard to call that second bold section a "conclusion", but it tells us the ideas that the argument has as its conclusion, so it provides the "content" of the conclusion.

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)
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was stucked between B and D.
First BF: Fact / Evidence / Support to the conclusion
Second BF: hmm... the word WETHER makes it NEUTRAL, because we don't know the answer yet.
Conclusion: clearly --> YES

(A) The first identifies the content of the conclusion of the argument; the second provides support for that conclusion.
(B) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second identifies the content of that conclusion - CORRECT

(C) The first states the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
(D) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question. --> to call into question -means smth. negative for the conclusion, but the 2nd BF is not negative (to make a question has not the same impact as call into question on the GMAT , the word wether is neutral
(E)Each provides support for the conclusion of the argument - second BF is neutral - doesn't support the conclusion
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There are two versions of questions:

Version : 1

Delta Products Inc. has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity.
The question has been raised whether it can be concluded that for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly. The answer, clearly, is yes, since the amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricity needed to power the new technologies is less than the amount needed to power the older technologies, provided level of output is held constant.

In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?

(A) The first identifies the content of the conclusion of the argument; the second provides support for that conclusion.
(B) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second identifies the content of that conclusion.
(C) The first states the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
(D) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
(E) Each provides support for the conclusion of the argument.

Solution:
1st Bold Faced
Delta Products Inc. has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity.
This is a fact and it also supports the conclusion.
What is the conclusion:
clearly, is yes (that for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly)
And
2nd Bold Faced
for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly
is part of the full conclusion.
The author infers that Yes, for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly

Now lets do POE:

(A) The first identifies the content of the conclusion of the argument; the second provides support for that conclusion.
First is a fact that supports the conclusion but not the "content of the conclusion"

(B) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second identifies the content of that conclusion.
Correct because of the above reasoning

(C) The first states the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
1st supports the the conclusion and doesn't state the conclusion of the argument
2nd states the conclusion and definitely doesn't calls that conclusion into conclusion

(D) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
2nd states the conclusion and definitely doesn't calls that conclusion into conclusion

(E) Each provides support for the conclusion of the argument.
2nd states the conclusion, option B) is better than Option E)

Version 2:

Delta Products Inc. has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity.
The question has been raised whether it can be concluded that for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly. The answer, clearly, is yes, since the amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricity needed to power the new technologies is less than the amount needed to power the older technologies, provided level of output is held constant.

In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?

(A) The first identifies the content of the conclusion of the argument; the second provides support for that conclusion.
(B) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second identifies the content of that conclusion.
(C) The first states the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
(D) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
(E) Each provides support for the conclusion of the argument.

As the analysis is same for both the version as premise is same, lets do the POE:

(A) The first identifies the content of the conclusion of the argument; the second provides support for that conclusion.
First is a fact that supports the conclusion but not the "content of the conclusion"

(B) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second identifies the content of that conclusion.
2nd BF doesn't identify the content of the conclusion. It supports the conclusion

(C) The first states the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
1st supports the the conclusion and doesn't states the conclusion of the argument
2nd also supports the argument and definitely doesn't calls that conclusion into conclusion

(D) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
2nd also supports the argument and definitely doesn't calls that conclusion into conclusion

(E) Each provides support for the conclusion of the argument.
Correct as both the statements supports the argument
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Delta Products Inc. has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity.
The question has been raised whether it can be concluded that for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly. The answer, clearly, is yes, since the amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricity needed to power the new technologies is less than the amount needed to power the older technologies, provided level of output is held constant

In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?
(A) The first identifies the content of the conclusion of the argument; the second provides support for that conclusion.
(B) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second identifies the content of that conclusion.
(C) The first states the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
(D) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
(E) Each provides support for the conclusion of the argument.


'D' would have been correct if the bold portion was this 'whether it can be concluded that for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly.'
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What if the second bold portion included the complete statement, i.e. "The question has been raised whether it can be concluded that for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly.", would the answer still be B or it'd now be D?
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Kind of tricky but not an impossible question.

First thing: IDENTIFY THE CONCLUSION.
- Notice: 2nd bold face kind of sets up the conclusion. What do I mean by that?

BF2, with its wording, "question has been raised whether it can be concluded..." Since you are given an answer right after, BF2 essentially asks as a marker. It screams: CONCLUSION IS COMING NEXT!

Conclusion: for a given level of output, Delta's operation now causes less FF to be consumed than it did formerly.

Now, what does BF1 play? BF1 basically states a fact. Delta recently did this. How does this relate to the Conclusion? It's a premise, so it supports the Conclusion.

Hence, you get B.

Don't believe me? Let's try POE:
A- BF1 does NOT ID the content of the conclusion. so what Delta switched from FF to electricity? there are a dozen different Conclusions I can make from that statement.
C- BF1 does NOT state Conclusion of the argument. A Conclusion marker comes further down the passage (explained above)
D- BF2 does NOT call Conclusion into question. Since "the answer, clearly, is yes"...it seems like it does not go against the Conclusion
E- BF2 does not necessarily provide SUPPORT for the Conclusion argument. It sets up the Conclusion. The 2nd BF is elaborating on a question, it's not a statement/fact.

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between B and E, I choose B because the conclusion cannot be "yes" alone. Moreover, the second indicates the main position of the author; therefore, the second should be the main conclusion. => B is correct
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1st boldface is a fact which later after reading out argument turn in support of main conclusion
after reading the full argument we know 2nd bold face is the conclusion that it now uses less fossil fuels.
therefore the answer is B
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Only B, E can be taken into consider while all other option can be ruled out in first inspection.
B is a clear winner since, both are not supporting statement for the Conclusion
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Delta Products Inc. has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity. The question has been raised whether it can be concluded that for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly. The answer, clearly, is yes, since the amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricity needed to power the new technologies is less than the amount needed to power the older technologies, provided level of output is held constant

In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?

(A) The first identifies the content of the conclusion of the argument; the second provides support for that conclusion. -2nd is the conclusion.
(B) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second identifies the content of that conclusion. -Correct
(C) The first states the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question. -2nd is the conclusion.
(D) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question. -2nd is the conclusion.
(E) Each provides support for the conclusion of the argument. -2nd is the conclusion.
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1. What is meant by identifying the content of conclusion?
2. How is BF1 supporting the conclusion? How is it supporting "The answer, clearly, is yes". It is only a fact that has been stated and which forms the base of the argument. To support a conclusion, we need to have a fact that makes the conclusion more believable. Simply stating that "elta Products Inc. has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity." does not make the conclusion more believable that "The answer, clearly, is yes". Else, the question that has been raised in the argument and immediately after BF1 would not have been raised.

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1. What is meant by identifying the content of conclusion?
2. How is BF1 supporting the conclusion? How is it supporting "The answer, clearly, is yes". It is only a fact that has been stated and which forms the base of the argument. To support a conclusion, we need to have a fact that makes the conclusion more believable. Simply stating that "elta Products Inc. has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity." does not make the conclusion more believable that "The answer, clearly, is yes". Else, the question that has been raised in the argument and immediately after BF1 would not have been raised.

Please explain.

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Delta Products Inc. has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity. The question has been raised whether it can be concluded that for a given level of output Delta's operation now causes less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly. The answer, clearly, is yes, since the amount of fossil fuel used to generate the electricity needed to power the new technologies is less than the amount needed to power the older technologies, provided level of output is held constant

In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?

(A) The first identifies the content of the conclusion of the argument; the second provides support for that conclusion.
(B) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second identifies the content of that conclusion.
(C) The first states the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
(D) The first provides support for the conclusion of the argument; the second calls that conclusion into question.
(E) Each provides support for the conclusion of the argument.

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First of all, check out this earlier post by mikemcgarry. See if that helps with your first question.

As for your second question, supporting the conclusion does not necessarily imply proving the conclusion. For a given level of output, is Delta's operation now causing less fossil fuel to be consumed than it did formerly? If we have no other information, then we have no evidence either way.

If I then tell you that Delta has recently switched at least partly from older technologies using fossil fuels to new technologies powered by electricity, then this is evidence that Delta has reduced its consumption of fossil fuel. By itself, this does not prove that the conclusion is true, but it still provides support for the conclusion.

I hope that helps!
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