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GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 30
Field: word problems (work problems)
Difficulty: 750

Painters A and B can paint a house working alone in 20 and 30 days respectively. They started painting a house together but then A left after a number of days but then rejoined B before the job was completed. If B worked alone for 5 days and then A and B together completed the work in 4 days, after how many days of working together, did A leave B?

A. 4
B. 5
C. 6
D. 7
E. 8
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The rates of work of A and B will be $$\frac{1}{20}$$ and $$\frac{1}{30}$$ respectively. The rate of working together will be $$\frac{1}{20}*\frac{1}{30}=\frac{5}{60}=\frac{1}{12}$$. Now we need to calculate what part of the work was done by A and B together before A left. To do that we subtract the amount of work finished by B alone in 5 days and A+B together in 4 last days from 1:

$$1 - \frac{1}{30}*5 - \frac{1}{12}*4 = 1 - \frac{1}{6} - \frac{1}{3} = \frac{1}{2}$$

Exactly half of the work was finished by A and B prior to A's leaving. Now we can find the number of days A and B were working before A left:

$$\frac{1}{12}*x=\frac{1}{2}$$

$$x=6$$

They were working for 6 days together before A left.
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Fantastic explanation. It took me 6:22 mins to do exactly the same.
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Together A and B can do the work in (1/20 + 1/30 = 5/60) = 12 days.

B alone worked for 5 days i.e. B completed 5/30 = 1/6 th work.

A and B worked together for 4 days i.e they completed 4/12 = 1/3 rd work.

Total work left = 1 - (work completed by B) - (work completed by A and B)
= 1 - 1/6 -1/3
= 1/2

We know that A and B can work together for 12 days to finish the work.
To complete 1/2 the work it will take them 6 days.

Ans = 6 (A and B must have worked for 6 days before A left and then re joined.)

Time taken = 2 mins.
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suppose the painting speed of these two people are m and n, and A left B after worked x days together.

20m=30n
(m+n)*x+5n+(m+n)*4=20m

x=6

within 1 minute.
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31 Aug 2009, 10:48
IMHO:

Compared to the other rate questions on this sufficiency test, I have no idea why it's leveled at "750." This seemed a lot easier that the other word problems.
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I agree with stilite. This was comparably easier than the other work problems.
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13 Nov 2009, 15:36
A = 1/20 = 5%.
B = 1/30 = 3 1/3%.
4(A+B) = 4(8 1/3%) = 33 1/3%.
5B = 16 2/3%.

100% - (4(A+B) + 5B) = 50%.
50% divided by 8 1/3% = 6
implies 6 days
implies C.

Takes maybe a minute this way.
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03 Jan 2010, 12:15
__________X ______ Y=5_______ Z=4
A =20 ------------- --------------
B= 30 -------------- -------------- ---------------

Let’s set the equation
A+B can finish the job in 12 days
1/30 + 1/20 = 1/total days
Total days = 12

X/ (A+B) + Y/B + Z/ (A+B) = 1
X/12 + 5/30 + 4/12 = 1
X/12 = 1 -1/6 – 1/3
X = 6
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I solved the problem based on a method some one used to solve question 29.

x= total number of days A and B worked together before A left.

The equation should be

total work done by A + total work done by B = complete work

(X + 4)/20 + (X+ 4 + 5days B worked alone)/30 = 1

(X + 4)/20 + (X+9)/30 = 1

solve for X and we get the answer.
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The difficulty level of question 30 and 29 should be reversed. I like this question though. Its along similar lines as question 29. I got both of them right. This took me some time to solve though. Made some silly calculation mistake is why.
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GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 30
Field: word problems (work problems)
Difficulty: 750
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Painters A and B can paint a house working alone in 20 and 30 days respectively. They started painting a house together but then A left after a number of days but then rejoined B before the job was completed. If B worked alone for 5 days and then A and B together completed the work in 4 days, after how many days of working together, did A leave B?

A. 4
B. 5
C. 6
D. 7
E. 8

Let A and B need to paint 600 feet of wall (multiple of 20 and 30)

A does 30feet per day and B does 20feet per day.

Now we know B worked alone for 5 days so work done is 100feet
A&B worked together for 4 days at end that gives 200feet

work remaining is 600-100-200=300 to be done be A&B together which gives 6 days.

This way i solved only in 45 seconds.

Hope this helps.
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+1, really nice and it does not look like a difficult one.

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GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 30
Field: word problems (work problems)
Difficulty: 750
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Let A and B need to paint 600 feet of wall (multiple of 20 and 30)

A does 30feet per day and B does 20feet per day.

Now we know B worked alone for 5 days so work done is 100feet
A&B worked together for 4 days at end that gives 200feet

work remaining is 600-100-200=300 to be done be A&B together which gives 6 days.

This way i solved only in 45 seconds.

Hope this helps.

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The rates of work of A and B will be $$\frac{1}{20}$$ and $$\frac{1}{30}$$ respectively. The rate of working together will be $$\frac{1}{20}*\frac{1}{30}=\frac{5}{60}=\frac{1}{12}$$. Now we need to calculate what part of the work was done by A and B together before A left. To do that we subtract the amount of work finished by B alone in 5 days and A+B together in 4 last days from 1:

$$1 - \frac{1}{30}*5 - \frac{1}{12}*4 = 1 - \frac{1}{6} - \frac{1}{3} = \frac{1}{2}$$

Exactly half of the work was finished by A and B prior to A's leaving. Now we can find the number of days A and B were working before A left:

$$\frac{1}{12}*x=\frac{1}{2}$$

$$x=6$$

They were working for 6 days together before A left.

In your solution, shouldn't the total work be (1/20)+ (1/30) which equals 5/60.
I think you have a typo, when you wrote * instead of +.

Anyways, thank you for the solution.
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I solved this one with the following equation:

5/30 + 4(1/20+1/30) + N (1/20+1/30) = 1

A few simplifications and N=6
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I solved this one with the following equation:

5/30 + 4(1/20+1/30) + N (1/20+1/30) = 1

A few simplifications and N=6

Nice one, it is best simplified to denominator 12
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If this question took me less than one minute and the previous question made me take a cyanide capsule, what would that tell me, simply the application of a formula in an abstract situation in regards to work is a place where I need work, and if so what would be the specific name of that kind of question or should I have been pleased to have a 50% chance on guessing?
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I got this in under two minutes...used Rao's method mentioned above. I visualized the whole thing using a line and calculated how much do they get done in a day (1/20+1/30)=1/12. then basically set up the eqn (using x as the number of days A and B initially worked together)

x(1/12) + 5(1/30)+4(1/12)=1

solved it for x =6 Hence C

Definitely not a 750, more like a 650 or a weak 700.
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Hi,

I just had question regarding the solution.

Generally rates are added when two or more people work together, even that is done in Question 29 of the diagnostic test. Why, in this question, we have multiplied individual rates as 1/20*1.30 I feel it should be 1/20 +1/30

It will be useful to have somebody's guidance in this regard

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