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Verbal is definitely the harder challenge for me, especially the reading comprehension. I have been using materials from GMAT club in building a strong foundation of logic for answering Critical Reasoning questions.
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I started my studies two months back.
Initially i took one Gmat prep CAT and scored 610.

I will start taking mocks this week.
Please suggest between Manhattan and Veritas.
Is the difficulty level of Manhattan very high ?
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Hi,

I started my studies two months back.
Initially i took one Gmat prep CAT and scored 610.

I will start taking mocks this week.
Please suggest between Manhattan and Veritas.
Is the difficulty level of Manhattan very high ?
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I started my studies two months back.
Initially i took one Gmat prep CAT and scored 610.

I will start taking mocks this week.
Please suggest between Manhattan and Veritas.
Is the difficulty level of Manhattan very high ?


Manhattan Tests are difficult on Quant part but the Verbal part is very appropriate. On the other hand, Veritas is good but the tests are a little simpler than Actual GMAT (as per feedback of many)

If I get to choose/recommend one of them then I would suggest "Manhattan Tests".

Just be prepared to face challenging questions in Quant butt he practice of those question is really good brain exercise and about the scoring of test I would be happier to give my feedback on PM.

I hope it helps!

Also before you mak a decision, Please take the FREE Mock of Veritas as well as Manhattan. Please find the list of all FREE Mock GMAT CAT in my signature.
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Hello!
I must start by thanking the creators/collaborators of GMATClub... I've been reading the forum for a couple of months now and I have to admit that it has been probably the best advisor I could ever get.

Now, down to business.

I would like some advice on how I should proceed now that I'm 2 weeks away from taking the test...

I graduated 4 years ago from Engineering, so, I thought Quant was going to be an easy thing (of course it wasn't!) and I thought I should start from there to then take a deep dive into Verbal.
After a couple of months studying Quant, I manage to get a Percentile 88% in Kaplan Free Test & The Economist Free Test, and Percentile 71% in Veritas Test (all free tests). Then, I studied verbal for 6 weeks and got Percentile 85% in Kaplan (Verbal-Free test) and 81% in Manhattan (Verbal-free test).

I never took a full length exam because I thought it made no sense to take a test of something I had not studied... Now I'm a bit worry about possible results.

To my surprise, when I tried to take a full length test after I finished studying verbal, I scored badly in quant. I couldn't remember many things I studied in the past and I was much slower.. Now, I have two weeks left until my ideal date and I'll spend this week reviewing math, and next doing full length tests.


My questions really are:
1- What are my chances of getting +700 in the Real thing? I haven't paid the test yet and I could delay it another week.
2- How much better can I improve my scores in the real thing with an extra week of studying?
3- Finally, any advice for this last couple of weeks?

Thank you!!


Hi dzillante

After reading your comment there is one quick suggestion that I want to make

First Suggestion : Don't take test in 15 days if you don't want to waste $250

Now, The reasoning of this suggestion is very simple that wonders don't happen in GMAT and Only Luck doesn't get anyone the score that you are looking for. Don't get biased by advertisement/communication which promise to teach you everything about GMAT in 15 days.

GMAT is a scientifically designed test and it is made in such a manner that a student with weak basics is bound to get the score in sync with the preparation. Quantitative section, however, can be prepared in lesser time than the time taken by verbal. But not giving it a complete month will definitely not justify the time that Quant Preparation Deserves.

Engineers generally have greater potential to perform very well in Quant section so don't doubt your capability and give the preparation proper time. The dates are generally available on short deadlines so that shouldn't be much of a worry.

NOT Taking a FULL CAT doesn't represent your ability to perform in the test. So your scores that your have mentioned in your post can't be accepted as the correct representation of your real performance on face value because GMAT test is of about 4 hours duration and it also tests your ability to concentrate for such a long time which is not easy when you approach the end of the test.

It's highly recommended that a students takes atleast 10 Full Length GMAT CAT before appearing for GMAT.
The straight answers to your questions are
My questions really are:

1- What are my chances of getting +700 in the Real thing? I haven't paid the test yet and I could delay it another week.
Your chances of getting a score 700+ are low (in my opinion) if you take test in 10-15 days but your chances are definitely good if you prepare for atleast a month with dedication and conviction. If you haven't paid then I would suggest that save your money because with not so good score anyways you won't be able to apply in the universities that you are targetting. If you don't mind gambling for sake of your satisfaction then you may choose to go ahead.

2- How much better can I improve my scores in the real thing with an extra week of studying?
One week doesn't make much of difference in performance unless you are prepared with required basic concepts and you have to just learn to avoid some test taking mistakes and work on test taking strategies, timing strategies etc. If you are prepared then one week can definitely contribute in building your stamina to sit and take FULL test in one sitting with the optional breaks

3- Finally, any advice for this last couple of weeks?
If these are last couple of weeks then best course of action is to take Full length GMAT CATs in one sitting and find out our mistakes and work on them wherever needed. The analysis of mistakes can definitely help a lot.

I hope it helps!
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Hi,

I started my studies two months back.
Initially i took one Gmat prep CAT and scored 610.

I will start taking mocks this week.
Please suggest between Manhattan and Veritas.
Is the difficulty level of Manhattan very high ?


Manhattan Tests are difficult on Quant part but the Verbal part is very appropriate. On the other hand, Veritas is good but the tests are a little simpler than Actual GMAT (as per feedback of many)

If I get to choose/recommend one of them then I would suggest "Manhattan Tests".

Just be prepared to face challenging questions in Quant butt he practice of those question is really good brain exercise and about the scoring of test I would be happier to give my feedback on PM.

I hope it helps!

Also before you mak a decision, Please take the FREE Mock of Veritas as well as Manhattan. Please find the list of all FREE Mock GMAT CAT in my signature.

Hi,

Thanks for your feedback. I took the Veritas free CAT, and found it OK.
But have not taken the Manhattan.

I hope the challenging Manhattan CATs help me in raising my preps.
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Is appalled by all the marketing gimmicks of all the above coaching centers to dupe vulnerable students . Will give a frank opinion from a students perspective, who has taken both the services e-gmat and crackverbal .

E-gmat ...completely useless if u are looking to improve verbal . After u pay the fees u get access to some random videos uploaded, each explaining some basic concepts . The thing is these concepts are pretty basic and can be found online in Manhattan's Thursdays with Ron series (they are pretty amazing and honest do check them .) for free !! . They have very minimal questions to practice from.... a very big disadvantage , since without practice no point in cramming in concepts .
Although after going through their explanations given for various questions on gmatclub I was impressed by them but thats it ..... dnt expect much from their paid services .Pluss they dont have any tests of their own , then no way to test urself .


Crack verbal ..... Ohh boy !! where do i begin .... i have attended their classes ....complete trickery or rather sophistry is the right word i believe.
During the free intro classes they discuss very complex examples which make u believe that ur sooper dumb and then once when u enroll u realise that they dont have much to offer , probably the introductory class was the best class in the entire course . THeir claims of sending people to LBS, Stanford and others Ivys are of people who already had a stellar profile and just needed a touch up on their essays . Dont be fooled by the fancy website . their material is very basic and not much informative . No test series of their own again ! ...... the thing is they claim to teach u shortcuts fr RCs and CRs . The ugly truth is there are no shortcuts . U cant game the exam , no matter what they say . U have to improve ur English !! ...period . which takes time .

So what should one do !! ....... practice practice and practice by urself from as many books as u can.Buy Kaplan Manhattan and different books see the questions and learn from them . Because take it from me in writing there are no tricks or shortcuts for verbal . U have to read dense material and improve ur English and simultaneously practise. Watch Manhattans Thursdays with Rons they are a pot of gold ! when it comes to building concepts....

Do lsat verbal questions for more practice . Atleast RC and CR can be covered . Pluss LSAT has pretty decent questions . Read Opinion pages of nytimes , guardian et al . Daily practise quant fro 1-2 hr and verbal for 1 hr . Use the gmat prep tests very wisely . They are the closest u will get to giving the real gmat exam . Manhattan's 6 gmat test are also good but wayy tougher than the real exam . Do give them . Also search for solutions for each and every OG question in google . ROns explanation on their blog r pretty accurate .
The gmat exam also is evolving the old tricks which these coaching centers purport to teach no longer apply . Take it from a guy who gave gmat twice .

WHO AM i to give this advice?? --- a guy who gave GMAT twice -- 1st attempt - 700
2nd attempt - 720

Got in two Colleges with 50% fellowship . DOnt believe me go ahead waste 20k or more on these coaching guys . ALL the Best bro !! :)
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Your opinion/suggestion will be definitely helpful - Starting today Aug 14th 2015
All major US business schools have their 2nd round application deadlines in the 1st week of Jan and I am here starting my first day on the GMAT. Though I don't have to worry about the GMAT format as I have read it before, I would like to begin with the math refresher course made available by GMATClub, thanks for that !
It's been almost 14 years now that I graduated from engineering, currently working as a PM for a Tech firm. I won't proclaim that I am doing anything extraordinary that what any other tech PM would do, but have some important Project Mgmt, technical certifications as a value add to my job responsibility.
At this juncture I feel I need to delve deeper into the organizational business wing and for doing so felt a need for a formal business training for which GMAT came to my mind. I know I am 37, but still want to give it a try and apply for good B-schools after getting a decent GMAT score.
Friends, I know I have a long way to go and will keep sharing my experiences... My GPA in college was 3.0, so what according to you will be a decent GMAT score for application to full time universities?
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A lot of great tips in this thread.
Just wanted to add a few very small, and often ignored, but crucial points.

1. Quality over Quantity: While doing practice questions, it's important to spend enough time in analyzing your performance. It's not just enough to get a question right. You must be 100% sure about why the other 4 options are wrong. As you know, you will never get any of the questions that you are doing in the actual GMAT. What you will gain from the practice questions (hopefully) is the ability to identify what rule/strategy is being tested in a question.

2. Do it 'right': A lot of you will study from books. But don't forget that the GMAT is a computer test. So, when you are studying from books, do not write or underline (especially in RCs). Do as many of your practice questions online as possible. Also, once you start taking full length mock tests, instead of paper and pencil, use laminated scratch pads and markers similar to the ones that you will get on the test day. On the day of the GMAT, the fewer adjustments you have to make, the better.

3. Importance of taking full length tests: I am sure all of you know how important it is to take full length tests. Your GMAT prep is incomplete unless you take atleast 4-5 full length mock tests. Oh, by the way, full length means full length! It's not "full length" if you are skipping the AWA and IR sections :lol: Also, the last three full length mock tests should be taken in exactly the same time slot as the actual GMAT - so that your brain gets acclimatized to working hard in that time slot. As I said, on the day of the GMAT, the fewer adjustments you have to make, the better.

Hope this helps!

All the best :good
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Hi

I hope to start my prep from today. I have to start my prep from scratch.. OG 2016 alongwith OG for verbal & quant delivered. Planning to signup for GMAT Pill online course by today evening. Any kind of advice will be highly appreciated. Also, Plz suggest me as to when should I schedule my GMAT exam so that I am able to apply to B-schools this year and also for scholarships (if I can get a decent score :) )?

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Hi guys,

A bit frustrated with my GMAT prep. I've been preparing for a couple of months now. Started with Manhattan thinking I better start with the tougher stuff. After 3 demotivating tests, I switched gears and moved to GMAT prep software and OG. My GMAT prep test scores have been between 700,720,720 and 740 (Quant between 74th percentile to 84th and Verbal between 83rd to 96th). I was fairly happy until I started taking Veritas Prep tests. The Quant on VP seems to be focussing on a few areas-my weaknesses-absolute value inequalities, combinatorics and set type questions (A,B,C like apples, oranges, grapes etc.). I'm pretty okay on RC but mess up CR often. My VP scores fluctuate so far between 600 to 650. While I do acknowledge that my pacing is a bit off sometimes, which causes me to rush through questions at the end of the sections, I'm a bit confused as to where my actual level of preparation is. Can anyone help/motivate?

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I plan on studying for the Quant section this first month. After studying, the guide suggests to take the quant section of the tests. How can I do that? If I just take the quant section, will I be able to do the verbal section later in other day? I'm clueless to how test this section after studying for a full month.

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Hello All,
I am a first time GMAT taker and have not started any preparations yet.
Could you please advise what are the best online coaching / classroom coaching options in Bangalore.
I am targeting the April 2016 admissions in one among the top 20 business schools in the US and hence aim at scoring accordingly (730 and above)
I need a lot of help with Quant and some help with Verbal.

I talked to a few coaching centers in Bangalore and they advise that I should target taking GMAT in Dec so as to target April 2016 admissions.
I was thinking of taking GMAT by mid Jan or Jan end. Will it be too late?
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Also, an important thing to consider according to my experience is to constantly work on one's problem solving methodology. In addition to detailed evaluation of each and every question and categorizing them into error types, it also beneficial to train your thinking in terms of which is "NOT" the correct answer. :-D
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Hi.. even I have started now only and plan to take the exam in Dec.. I have purchased Gmatpill. I have gone through SC & RC sections so far and I am liking it so far.. Its simple & easy to grasp & I prefer that coz I dont have much time to delve into grammar now..

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Hi Dear All,
Took CAT today, 480 ((
Very disappointed. Expected at least 550+ in order to be able to have it over 650 in exam after 2 weeks.
Have used mainly Manhattan books, OG and GMATClub resources...

What should I do to get 650+ in real exam?

I have taken 8 days off to make final review (yeah, as if I have already attained 650+ on average and now anticipating 700+ :D ).
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Hello All,

This is my first post on GMATClub forum. :) *very excited*

I am planning to take GMAT in early Jan 2016 and targeting 720+ :twisted: .

About 1 month back, I took the GMAT Prep 1 mock and scored 620 (QA: 47 :idea: , VA: 29 :!: ).

Here is my incomplete study plan till now:
1. Give GMAT Prep 1 mock - done.
2. Start with OG (after reading bb's post, I am wondering why is that wrong :roll: ).
3. Start practicing questions and give mock/full-length tests.

To be honest, I know I can get there, but don't know how. :(

Please help.
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