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In Merina commercial fossil hunters often sell important fossils they have found, not to universities or museums, but to individual collectors, who pay much better but generally do not allow researchers access to their collections. To increase the number of fossils available for research, some legislators propose requiring all fossils that are found in Merina to be sold only to universities or museums.

Which of the following, if true, most strongly indicates that the legislators' proposal will fail to achieve its goal?


(A) Some fossil hunters in Merina are not commercial fossil hunters, but rather are amateurs who keep the fossils that they find.

(B) Most fossils found in Merina are common types that have little scientific interest.

(C) Commercial fossil hunters in Merina currently sell some of the fossils they find to universities and museums.

(D) Many universities in Merina do not engage in fossil research.

(E) Most fossils are found by commercial fossil hunters, and they would give up looking for fossils if they were no longer allowed to sell to individual collectors.

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In Merina commercial fossil hunters often sell important fossils they have found, not to universities or museums, but to individual collectors, who pay much better but generally do not allow researchers access to their collections. To increase the number of fossils available for research, some legislators propose requiring all fossils that are found in Merina to be sold only to universities or museums.

Boil it down - To increase the number of fossils available for research, some legislators propose requiring all fossils that are found in Merina to be sold only to universities or museums.

Which of the following, if true, most strongly indicates that the legislators' proposal will fail to achieve its goal?

(A) Some fossil hunters in Merina are not commercial fossil hunters, but rather are amateurs who keep the fossils that they find. - Irrelevant - as we are only concerned about those fossil hunters who sell the fossils which they have found

(B) Most fossils found in Merina are common types that have little scientific interest. - iSWAT - There are a few fossils that a scientific interest. Also , most of fossils will have some value for research
(C) Commercial fossil hunters in Merina currently sell some of the fossils they find to universities and museums. - Incorrect - the legislators only want to increase the number of fossils sold to universities and museums .

(D) Many universities in Merina do not engage in fossil research. - Irrelevant - the fossils can be sold to other universities or museums .

(E) Most fossils are found by commercial fossil hunters, and they would give up looking for fossils if they were no longer allowed to sell to individual collectors.- Correct - the commercial fossil hunters will not have the incentive to find fossils if they aren't allowed to sell to individual collectors
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Imo E

The plan is to enact a law that will force commercial collectors to sell fossils to universities .
But if the collectors stop collecting fossils if they are stopped to sell the fossils to private collectors then the law will not increase numbers of fossils available for research in universities.

Although b is a very tempting choice but it fails as we already know those fossils have scientific value.
Am i right in my reasoning?
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The goal intended through legislation is to increase availability of fossils for research, by allowing sales of fossils by fossil hunters only to museums and universities.
The given goal will not be achieved if either after sale to museum or university it is still not available for research
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The fossils are themselves no longer made available to the research team
This leaves us with choice D and E.
D says that many universities don't engage in research, but that does not necessarily entitle there collected fossils to not be made available for research.
E is best as it suggests that there will be lesser availability of fossils as the fossil collectors will not collect them, thereby weakening the chances of the legislation achieving it's goal

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Can you elaborate on concrete reasoning to rule out (B)

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hi! Was hoping you could help me with this question - I am not able to understand the conclusion here (same issue as the earlier one - the virus question)
https://gmatclub.com/forum/in-merina-co ... 41365.html

In Merina commercial fossil hunters often sell important fossils they have found, not to universities or museums, but to individual collectors, who pay much better but generally do not allow researchers access to their collections. To increase the number of fossils available for research, some legislators propose requiring all fossils that are found in Merina to be sold only to universities or museums.

Which of the following, if true, most strongly indicates that the legislators' proposal will fail to achieve its goal?

(A) Some fossil hunters in Merina are not commercial fossil hunters, but rather are amateurs who keep the fossils that they find.

(B) Most fossils found in Merina are common types that have little scientific interest.

(C) Commercial fossil hunters in Merina currently sell some of the fossils they find to universities and museums.

(D) Many universities in Merina do not engage in fossil research.

(E) Most fossils are found by commercial fossil hunters, and they would give up looking for fossils if they were no longer allowed to sell to individual collector

My question is - E talks about the fossils not being found out; given there is no incentive. But isn't the conclusion speaking of making available more fossils to unis/researchers? How is E closer than B? After all B says - many unis do not even have fossil research --> hence, increasing the number of fossils available would not do anything for the researchers either way.
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hi! Was hoping you could help me with this question - I am not able to understand the conclusion here (same issue as the earlier one - the virus question)
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In Merina commercial fossil hunters often sell important fossils they have found, not to universities or museums, but to individual collectors, who pay much better but generally do not allow researchers access to their collections. To increase the number of fossils available for research, some legislators propose requiring all fossils that are found in Merina to be sold only to universities or museums.

Which of the following, if true, most strongly indicates that the legislators' proposal will fail to achieve its goal?

(A) Some fossil hunters in Merina are not commercial fossil hunters, but rather are amateurs who keep the fossils that they find.

(B) Most fossils found in Merina are common types that have little scientific interest.

(C) Commercial fossil hunters in Merina currently sell some of the fossils they find to universities and museums.

(D) Many universities in Merina do not engage in fossil research.

(E) Most fossils are found by commercial fossil hunters, and they would give up looking for fossils if they were no longer allowed to sell to individual collector

My question is - E talks about the fossils not being found out; given there is no incentive. But isn't the conclusion speaking of making available more fossils to unis/researchers? How is E closer than B? After all B says - many unis do not even have fossil research --> hence, increasing the number of fossils available would not do anything for the researchers either way.
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Hi Madhavi 1990.

Here is how I would boil the passage down:

Proposal: In order to get X, people need to do Y.

Option E shows that it is unlikely to do Y. Then people would NOT get X. So, the proposal would break down.

Your reasoning with option B is irrelevant to the task at hand.Its kind like, "if people get X, here is whats gonna happen afterward". As long as we prove that the proposal is gonna break down, we do NOT care whats gonna happen afterward.

Just my 2 cents :)

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My question is - E talks about the fossils not being found out; given there is no incentive. But isn't the conclusion speaking of making available more fossils to unis/researchers? How is E closer than B? After all B says - many unis do not even have fossil research --> hence, increasing the number of fossils available would not do anything for the researchers either way.
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Hi...Strengthen/Weaken question calls for REAL WORLD way of thinking...
Break it down to our normal language...

My Researcher friend says: Comm. fossil hunters are selling max of their fossils to Private firms than the univ
Me: Y
Researcher friend: Dude they make more profit but we dont get to study those fossils as the Private firms dont allow us to see those
Me: Ohh!!! sad
Researcher Friend: Dont worry. A new law has been proposed in which they have to sell only to UNIV and not to private firms
Me: Great... You can now study more new fossils

MAIN POINT: New Rule will increase accessibility of the number of fossil for researcher.
Any choice that address THIS DIRECTLY is our answer.

A) Some fossil hunters in Merina are not commercial fossil hunters, but rather are amateurs who keep the fossils that they find.
So what?? Does this affect the main issue in which We are talking about the change in SELLING of FOSSILS from PRIVATE to UNIVERSITY...WRONG IRRELEVANT

(B) Most fossils found in Merina are common types that have little scientific interest.
So what?? there will be other fossils that will be of interest to researcher.
This doesn't take account of the fact of the remaining important FOSSILS that if sold to Univ instead of Private firms can be of help for researchers...IRRELEVANT


(C) Commercial fossil hunters in Merina currently sell some of the fossils they find to universities and museums.
Already given in passage that In Merina commercial fossil hunters often sell important fossils they have found, not to universities or museums, but to individual collectors
this means they are still selling a few...Doesnot address the MAIN ISSUE


(D) Many universities in Merina do not engage in fossil research.

So what?? Does this says anything that the present researchers will/ will not get access to all new fossils
We do not need to increase the number of researchers. We already know there are researchers who want to study fossils. But availability of fossil is an issue.
Does not address the main issue...IRRELEVANT



(E) Most fossils are found by commercial fossil hunters, and they would give up looking for fossils if they were no longer allowed to sell to individual collectors.

Now here is the deal. This directly address the main issue...IF THE FOSSIL HUNTER will stop hunting for FOSSIL, this Law wont help my researcher friend to study any new fossil and so the law will be a BIG LOSS...CORRECT.
Notice THIS is an OUT of SCOPE answer that directly deals with MAIN ISSUE..we need such kind of options

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In Merina commercial fossil hunters often sell important fossils they have found, not to universities or museums, but to individual collectors, who pay much better but generally do not allow researchers access to their collections. To increase the number of fossils available for research, some legislators propose requiring all fossils that are found in Merina to be sold only to universities or museums.

Which of the following, if true, most strongly indicates that the legislators' proposal will fail to achieve its goal?

(A) Some fossil hunters in Merina are not commercial fossil hunters, but rather are amateurs who keep the fossils that they find.

(B) Most fossils found in Merina are common types that have little scientific interest.

(C) Commercial fossil hunters in Merina currently sell some of the fossils they find to universities and museums.

(D) Many universities in Merina do not engage in fossil research.

(E) Most fossils are found by commercial fossil hunters, and they would give up looking for fossils if they were no longer allowed to sell to individual collectors.


PREMISE: Fossils often sold to individual collectors
PREMISE: Collectors typically do not give researchers access to fossils
CONCLUSION: Forcing fossil Hunters to sell fossils only to universities or museums will increase fossils available for research
SHORTENED CONCLUSION: Proposed law will increase the number fossils available for research

Let's check the answer choices while reminding ourselves of the conclusion...

A) Does this weaken the conclusion that the proposed law will increase the number fossils available for research?
NO. This premise has no bearing on the conclusion.

B) Does this weaken the conclusion that the proposed law will increase the number fossils available for research?
NO. Just because most fossils are uninteresting doesn't mean that interesting fossils are not found.

C) Does this weaken the conclusion that the proposed law will increase the number fossils available for research?
NO. The word "some" tells us that at least one fossil is sold to universities and museums. If there were a law that required ALL fossils to be sold to University's museums then the number of fossils available for research would definitely increase.

D) Does this weaken the conclusion that the proposed law will increase the number fossils available for research?
NO. The conclusion is all about the availability of fossils available for research, not weather every University studies fossils

E) Does this weaken the conclusion that the proposed law will increase the number fossils available for research?
YES! If the fossil hunters stop looking for fossils of then the availability of fossils will NOT increase

Answer: E
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Hi!
How would you consider this question in terms of patterns? I mean, i know that we have to weaken the legislator's proposal and that E is the correct answer and why it is the correct answer, but I cannot say how we are weakening the proposal.
For example, in some questions we provide an alternate cause to weaken a causal relationship, but what about this question? what are we doing?
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Can you elaborate on concrete reasoning to rule out (B)

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adkikani,

Even if few Mernian fossils are interesting to researchers, the legislation could still achieve its goal of making more fossils available for research. So option B is ruled out.
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Can you elaborate on concrete reasoning to rule out (B)

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I viewed that...if they r of no interest ..then passage itself is immaterial. ..the thing here is the passage is material and most of the fossil must go to muesums and universities.. hence option E.

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In Merina commercial fossil hunters often sell important fossils they have found, not to universities or museums, but to individual collectors, who pay much better but generally do not allow researchers access to their collections. To increase the number of fossils available for research, some legislators propose requiring all fossils that are found in Merina to be sold only to universities or museums.


Commercial fossil hunters are the key people who do the fossil hunting in Merina.
Legislators want to increase the number of fossils to be available for research.
Conclusion/Proposal in this particular case: Hence they want all fossils that are found in Merina to be sold ONLY to universities or museums.

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Which of the following, if true, most strongly indicates that the legislators' proposal will fail to achieve its goal?


Strengthen the contention that the proposal is bound to fail.

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(A) Some fossil hunters in Merina are not commercial fossil hunters, but rather are amateurs who keep the fossils that they find.

Who are those hunters isn't a matter of discussion as per the question. Whomsoever he/she is, legislators want him/her to sell the fossils only to the universities or museum.

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(B) Most fossils found in Merina are common types that have little scientific interest.

Even then the legislators want the fossils to be sold only to universities or museums.

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(C) Commercial fossil hunters in Merina currently sell some of the fossils they find to universities and museums.

Legislators want ALLLLLLLLLLLLL.

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(D) Many universities in Merina do not engage in fossil research.

Great, Many = More than 1. Even if there are only 2 universities who engage in research of this particular type. The legislators order stands as is.

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(E) Most fossils are found by commercial fossil hunters, and they would give up looking for fossils if they were no longer allowed to sell to individual collectors.

If the fossil hunters who find most of the commercial fossils stop looking for them in case restrictions are imposed on selling the fossils to individual collectors, then the legislators would never meet their intended result.
Hence this option stands out.
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