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Cobra Kai- A masters degree in engineering, ex company commander, currently winding down his service in the US Military, and fluent in Mandarin. I would suggest you don’t fool around with this guy.
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1. Hi CobraKai- A great honor as it is to have you on the forum. You are quite the celebrity! First thing first… you had a great take on the GMAT battle on a particular blog. How did you tackle it?
Thanks for the over-dramatic introduction, souvik! You're probably the only person who could pull off using a masters degree in engineering to make me sound like a badass. As for me being a celebrity, if trolling this forum making off-topic smartass remarks makes me a celebrity, well, it means I probably have more talent than all the Kardashians put together.
But in all seriousness, the GMAT. Like every other engineer on this planet, I underestimated how hard the quantitative portion of the test was, but I never underestimated the importance of the test and I took an on-demand
Manhattan GMAT course. I thought it was helpful, but I never scored higher than a 660 on my practice CATs. Basically, I was hoping for something to click when I sat for the real deal, but it didn't happen. I got a 660 and knew I had to take it again. I prepped for my second attempt by just doing a bunch of
OG problems with a timer, and that turned out to be a horrible way to prep as I scored a 610 on my second try. For my third try, I drew out a schedule that would last a little over 6 weeks and I did the Total GMAT Math and Total GMAT Verbal books cover-to-cover. I even brought these books with me and studied during a two week exercise in Okinawa. I took the test again and was elated to see 700 flash on the screen. I went home and traded in all my books on Amazon to avoid the temptation of trying a soul-sucking 4th attempt.
If I have any general advice for the GMAT, it's to be brilliant at the basics. Master the easy and medium questions. I hear too many people ask about bold critical reasoning questions and such when there may only be one or two of them on the test, and quite frankly, you might not get to those questions if you don't do well earlier in the exam. Master concepts, not types of problems. I know my 700 doesn't make me an expert, but I'm pretty confident I maxed out my abilities for this test on my last attempt.
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2. You visited quite a number of schools. Was spending so much money on visits worth it? Tell us about schools you disliked (we all want to hear those)
In short, yes. I will say I was fortunate to be an east coast domestic applicant and I didn't apply to any schools farther than the central time zone. My rationale is that visiting not only gives you a feel for the school and things to write about in your essays, it also is a good way to see if this is somewhere you even want to go to school. I think it's a waste of time and energy to apply to a school only to find out during the on-campus interview or even the admit weekend (if you interviewed off campus) that this isn't a school you're interested in attending. The application process is exhausting...make sure you're applying to schools you really love. I know this is tougher for international applicants, but seriously, make a vacation out of it and think of the money spent as an investment in making sure you end up at a school that is right for YOU.
As for diming out the school I didn't like when I visited, I have to politely decline. Just like an applicant doesn't get a second chance at a first impression, I feel like this school dropped the ball on the day I visited. Mainly I felt bad for the international students visiting a top school that just didn't have its act together. Ultimately, I didn't apply because I had already visited other schools I favored over this one and decided it just wasn't worth my time to apply.
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3. Let me get this straight. You are an engineer, have extensive military experience, a master degree. Why MBA?
Well, I firmly believe there are engineers and engineering majors - I definitely think I'm the latter. The fact is, none of us know what we want to do when we're 18 (well, unless your name is Kobe Bryant), we're just guessing. Sometimes we guess right, I guessed wrong. I joined the military after college because I knew by my junior year I didn't want to do the traditional engineering jobs and it was too late to switch majors.
I think the MBA is the perfect complement to the leadership experiences I've had, and its a necessity to make the bridge to brand management. I was amazed at how many of the interviewers focused on my engineering background and interest in marketing, as opposed to the transferable leadership skills on my resume, but I guess a lot of people see "engineer" and like to pigeon-hole us. The masters degree looks odd on my resume as I didn't get it right after undergrad, but it was merely a career milestone at that point - the military sent me to get it, and I did.
Finally, for military officers, I think the MBA just opens the most doors. Anyone looking to go into civilian life without an MBA is going to be a leader with limited industry knowledge. In fact, many of our military officers end up working for the government because that's what they know and where they're most marketable. I knew I didn't want to do that.
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4. I heard that you were approached by some Hollywood Execs for a movie deal? Wouldn’t that cut out some time out of your B School business?
It would, but B-school is all about time management. You have to learn how to prioritize. Besides, how could I pass up the opportunity to be Vin Diesel's butt-double in "Fast and Furious 17"? Hopefully Jordana Brewster hasn't gotten sick of her role as "hot girl that drives fast cars" and her character isn't re-cast.
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5. You have an interesting take on admission consulting. Care to share?
Sure. I'm certainly not going to need their services!
In all seriousness, an admissions consultant cannot increase your GMAT or your GPA, can't change where you went to school, and certainly can't change the company you worked for and how you performed there. That leads me to ask:
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Helping people with good stats and a good profile get into a top B-school seems like a silly service. I think admissions consultants feed on the fear and self-doubt of successful people who are basically using the admissions consultant as a security blanket. Kind of like this guy:
Admissions consultants like to boast about how they got the guy with a 640 GMAT into a top-5 school, but I think those are few and far between. In fact, most admissions consultants want their clients to be realistic so they can report a good success rate, so they'll let someone apply to a reach or two, but ultimately in order to work with them they want them to target schools in-line with their stats and profiles. Every now and then, one of these clients will score a top-5 admit and that's when the consultants get to boast "look how great we are!" Admissions consultants aren't miracle workers, and they know that.
I don't mean to slam admissions consultants or people who use them - the market exists, so the service does as well - but I just think if I don't know what my best stories are, I severely doubt someone I'll never meet face-to-face knows what they are. Then there's the cost...several thousand dollars. I think that money is better spent on traveling to schools to see them in person - those trips will give you authentic things to write about in your essays and things to talk about in your interview that no admissions consultant can provide. Also - using one isn't a guarantee for anything...just ask anyone who was dinged everywhere after using a consultant...talk about insult to injury.
If no one used these consultants, the industry would dry up and die. But such is the nature of competitive B-school admissions - people are looking to get an edge and these consultants are capitalizing on it. They're here to stay...I'm just glad I was able to get admitted without using one.
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6. You finished the 4 semester masters curriculum in 11 months! WHOA! And that too a couple of years after undergrad. How did you manage that? Also, what’s your take on Full time MBA after doing a master’s degree?
It really wasn't my choice. If the military sees I can get my masters in 1 year instead of 2, they're going to have me do it in one. To them the result is the same, even though the process suffers. For instance, it's typical for an engineering masters program to offer classes say, every other spring semester assuming you'll be there for two years and get to take it at some point. Not so if you're only there for one. I ended up taking double the course load of a normal masters student and ultimately had to settle for classes I wasn't all that interested in. It really bastardized the education process.
As for a full-time MBA after a masters, I view my first masters as fairly useless since I'm not interested in that field. I learned first hand how much graduate education sucks when you're not interested in the subject matter. That's why I'm excited for the MBA, because I'm choosing to go, and I'm excited to do a two-year program. I was asked during my Johnson interview why I thought the two-year program was appropriate seeing how I was eligible to apply for the AMBA. My answer was that I wanted to immerse myself in student life and be a part of the Johnson community and as a career changer, I really wanted that internship. I emphasized that I was concerned with the process, not the result - I didn't want to slam through a year just to get an MBA and move on with my life...I wanted to stop and smell the roses. I feel like sometimes we want to get where we're going next instead of appreciating where we currently are. B-school is gonna be awesome...why would I want to shorten the experience?
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7. Is it true that learning Mandarin was a part of a CIA op that you were in?
If by "CIA op" you mean "ordering Peking Duck" while visiting China Town in NYC, then yes. Seriously, the military has sent me to Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, and Singapore, where Mandarin is next to useless. I'm of Chinese descent, so I end up looking like a jerk when someone says something to me in Japanese and I just stare blankly instead of replying.
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8. Johnson is getting full of GMATClub bromantic couples this year. In all seriousness, why Johnson and why not the others?
Have you been to Ithaca? It's a small town, so I guess if someone has some time on their hands, they're going to take down the Monster Burger at Rulaffs (
https://www.rulloffs.com/pages/m_ld.html). Accomplishing that deserves a man-hug an a fist-pound.
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9. Any advice for the future CobraKai?
Well, if I could jump into a hot tub time machine and do some things differently, I think I would have used the optional essay to explain why I got a masters in engineering so late. I assumed since it was in the middle of my military career adcoms would understand that it wasn't something I decided to do, but in hindsight maybe they didn't put two and two together so I wish I briefly spelled it out.
As for any future military applicants I would ignore the concept of the holistic process we always hear about and think: "Hey, I've got military experience that can compensate for a sub-par GPA or GMAT." The problem with this thought process is that your competition will be other military officers with similar career trajectory and accomplishments. The adcom holds the military guys in pretty high esteem, so it's easier for them to choose the guy (or gal) with better stats instead of trying to interpret who had a more impressive career. Your GPA is set in stone, but getting a 700+ can assure that the GMAT won't be the reason you get denied. Also, keep in mind, your competition isn't the average or below-average military officer. It's the high-achieving motivated one, just like you, that is fighting for that seat at the top schools.
To illustrate this point, I was admitted to Johnson with a scholarship but waitlisted at Darden. Most people would consider these two to be peer schools, so why the difference? Well, I'm willing to bet there was a bigger more impressive military applicant pool at Darden than Johnson during Round 1. Johnson liked me compared to the other military applicants, while Darden scanned the room of fresh meat and said "let's be friends." You never know what you're up against.
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10. What do you with your free time now that you're done with the admissions process?
Take candy from babies, taunt Shamu at Sea World, and push senior citizens into oncoming traffic. I've got a reputation of a model citizen to uphold.