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16 Apr 2018, 12:23
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Hi!
Looking at part-time/distance programs. Short-term career wise (next 5 years) I need the MBA to check HR's box and qualify for the next level of promotions. Planning on staying in my same company/same industry at least for now. Because of this, the program honestly doesn't matter much. Really any fairly reputable university will do the trick for my current path. However, I want to be mindful of long-term career opportunities as well. I'm not sure where I will be located in the U.S. in 10+ years (I've lived in 7 states thus far, I'm not afraid to move). I want a degree that will carry well across the country and presents a solid educational background no matter where I end up down the road.
Which leads me to a debate: Kelley (IU) vs. Carey (Johns Hopkins). Kelley has a solid online MBA and is a reputable business school. However, I'm not sure how much weight an "Indiana University" degree carries on the east or west coasts. Johns Hopkins has no established MBA program (somewhat new, accredited, but not yet ranked). While a JHU MBA might not mean much now, it might develop into something great down the road - and certainly the general reputation of Johns Hopkins is widely respected across the U.S. and internationally.
Any input on what the better bet is here?
Looking at part-time/distance programs. Short-term career wise (next 5 years) I need the MBA to check HR's box and qualify for the next level of promotions. Planning on staying in my same company/same industry at least for now. Because of this, the program honestly doesn't matter much. Really any fairly reputable university will do the trick for my current path. However, I want to be mindful of long-term career opportunities as well. I'm not sure where I will be located in the U.S. in 10+ years (I've lived in 7 states thus far, I'm not afraid to move). I want a degree that will carry well across the country and presents a solid educational background no matter where I end up down the road.
Which leads me to a debate: Kelley (IU) vs. Carey (Johns Hopkins). Kelley has a solid online MBA and is a reputable business school. However, I'm not sure how much weight an "Indiana University" degree carries on the east or west coasts. Johns Hopkins has no established MBA program (somewhat new, accredited, but not yet ranked). While a JHU MBA might not mean much now, it might develop into something great down the road - and certainly the general reputation of Johns Hopkins is widely respected across the U.S. and internationally.
Any input on what the better bet is here?
17 Apr 2018, 11:41
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I tend to rank all programs based on the FT rankings. Perhaps I am short-sighted but it makes it pretty easy since that's the most competitive side of the business school. It is not a tough choice between Kelley, a top 20 MBA program vs. a John Hopkins, a not ranked MBA program...
I would consider admissions requirements and average GMAT scores for the programs. The more stringent they are, the better the program is ranked, and better it will be. I would not bank on any future potential or good will. I have never seen it play out. It makes little sense to bank on the future and you should only make your bets on the present and what you see in front of you.
P.S. While John Hopkins has a strong name from its Med School, folks who are aware of how the MBA works, will know it is not even ranked. However, the general population would probably recognize John Hopkins more so than Kelley.
I would consider admissions requirements and average GMAT scores for the programs. The more stringent they are, the better the program is ranked, and better it will be. I would not bank on any future potential or good will. I have never seen it play out. It makes little sense to bank on the future and you should only make your bets on the present and what you see in front of you.
P.S. While John Hopkins has a strong name from its Med School, folks who are aware of how the MBA works, will know it is not even ranked. However, the general population would probably recognize John Hopkins more so than Kelley.
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First, I'm a JHU (undergrad) alum so I'll just get that out of the way up front.
I think you're in a great position to pick Hopkins. If you were looking to pursue the traditional path of doing an MBA then leaving your current job immediately after, I'd say go with Kelley. But since you're planning to wait to switch for a while, IMO that changes the calculus quite a bit. JHU just got accredited last year- I imagine it will get ranked next year. The average GMAT isn't too far off from Kelley's (650 to 670). But I think the long term potential is quite a bit more in Hopkins' favor. JHU has many more top ranked programs (med school, SAIS, other PHD programs, undergrad) and as a result the name stretches quite a bit farther. Sure, in MBA-specific circles Kelley is better known and will have more clout, but unless you're compulsively checking the rankings or are a b-school recruiter I imagine most will not know that Hopkins is unranked. Additionally, if you're able to get out and meet students in other programs, that network will be much stronger too. I don't think you'd be wrong to pick Kelley, but I do think you can bank on Hopkins having significant upward momentum.
I'll also add that as someone who is at SOM, which I think is in a somewhat similar situation (great university, somewhat lower in the rankings for b-school) there are tons of opportunities that I get from going here that I wouldn't get at Darden, or NYU, or even a place like Tuck. I think the same would be true for you at Hopkins. The strength of the university as a whole will draw in speakers/faculty/recognition beyond the level of its b-school peers.
I think you're in a great position to pick Hopkins. If you were looking to pursue the traditional path of doing an MBA then leaving your current job immediately after, I'd say go with Kelley. But since you're planning to wait to switch for a while, IMO that changes the calculus quite a bit. JHU just got accredited last year- I imagine it will get ranked next year. The average GMAT isn't too far off from Kelley's (650 to 670). But I think the long term potential is quite a bit more in Hopkins' favor. JHU has many more top ranked programs (med school, SAIS, other PHD programs, undergrad) and as a result the name stretches quite a bit farther. Sure, in MBA-specific circles Kelley is better known and will have more clout, but unless you're compulsively checking the rankings or are a b-school recruiter I imagine most will not know that Hopkins is unranked. Additionally, if you're able to get out and meet students in other programs, that network will be much stronger too. I don't think you'd be wrong to pick Kelley, but I do think you can bank on Hopkins having significant upward momentum.
I'll also add that as someone who is at SOM, which I think is in a somewhat similar situation (great university, somewhat lower in the rankings for b-school) there are tons of opportunities that I get from going here that I wouldn't get at Darden, or NYU, or even a place like Tuck. I think the same would be true for you at Hopkins. The strength of the university as a whole will draw in speakers/faculty/recognition beyond the level of its b-school peers.
