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Hello friends! 
my first attempt posting here.
I was very lucky to survive R1 and got admitted to Wharton and Kellogg MMM. Now I'm stuck at making a decision - I've talked to multiple people (mostly alums) and feel like choosing either school will likely give me similar experience, which also means it's quite hard to choose one.
Quick background: currently in consulting in US, recently pivoted to more design-thinking/product related topics at work, and want to continue working in this broad world of user-centric design and product (think about the Venn Diagram with business, design, and tech - probably the middle section). Realistically want to end up in bigger companies vs. startup due to visa restrictions.
Below is my latest thinking:
Wharton
Pros:
+ $$
+ Very strong brand name in Asia in case I go back eventually
+ Strong network and curriculum across most areas - not that I will suddenly enter PE/VC, but might be helpful to get to know some people in those industries and keep the door open
+ Can still take Wharton Design school courses and join related clubs
+ Tech job outlook seems ok - looked at the job report (~50 getting into tech) and did LinkedIn stalking, seems that a decent # go to Google/Facebook/etc.
Cons:
+ Didn't feel like a click when I was interviewing - somehow I was the most casually dressed up person in the room
+ I've met several alums that I like, but the full school seems a bit more intense/hardcore
+ Talked to ppl I know in design-thinking/product areas, they can't comment on Wharton or don't know many folks from Wharton
Kellogg MMM
Pros:
+ Dedicated curriculum to get deep in design and innovation (vs. having to navigate the curriculum and "make it work")
+ Nicer/Chiller people (based on what I've heard and the couple datapoints I have from alums)
Cons:
+ With the extra semester and no $, financially will be probably 80K+ more than Wharton
+ Tech network in Asia seems weaker (or just in general network seems weaker in Asia)
+ A bit worried about party scene as a big introvert
+ Extremely cold winter....
I am going to welcome weekend for both schools (doing the crazy 1-day trip for the full weekend) to test out the vibes, but getting quite nervous as the decision deadline is approaching..... Any suggestions/insights would be greatly appreciated!
Specifically, would love to hear:
+ Any other factors I should consider?
+ Any false assumptions I've made above?
+ What things should I dig deeper into during Welcome Weekend (besides checking whether I like the people)?
* Plus, while I'm taking a break (at least two years) from consulting, happy to answer any questions about consulting as well!
my first attempt posting here.I was very lucky to survive R1 and got admitted to Wharton and Kellogg MMM. Now I'm stuck at making a decision - I've talked to multiple people (mostly alums) and feel like choosing either school will likely give me similar experience, which also means it's quite hard to choose one.
Quick background: currently in consulting in US, recently pivoted to more design-thinking/product related topics at work, and want to continue working in this broad world of user-centric design and product (think about the Venn Diagram with business, design, and tech - probably the middle section). Realistically want to end up in bigger companies vs. startup due to visa restrictions.
Below is my latest thinking:
Wharton
Pros:
+ $$
+ Very strong brand name in Asia in case I go back eventually
+ Strong network and curriculum across most areas - not that I will suddenly enter PE/VC, but might be helpful to get to know some people in those industries and keep the door open
+ Can still take Wharton Design school courses and join related clubs
+ Tech job outlook seems ok - looked at the job report (~50 getting into tech) and did LinkedIn stalking, seems that a decent # go to Google/Facebook/etc.
Cons:
+ Didn't feel like a click when I was interviewing - somehow I was the most casually dressed up person in the room
+ I've met several alums that I like, but the full school seems a bit more intense/hardcore
+ Talked to ppl I know in design-thinking/product areas, they can't comment on Wharton or don't know many folks from Wharton
Kellogg MMM
Pros:
+ Dedicated curriculum to get deep in design and innovation (vs. having to navigate the curriculum and "make it work")
+ Nicer/Chiller people (based on what I've heard and the couple datapoints I have from alums)
Cons:
+ With the extra semester and no $, financially will be probably 80K+ more than Wharton
+ Tech network in Asia seems weaker (or just in general network seems weaker in Asia)
+ A bit worried about party scene as a big introvert
+ Extremely cold winter....
I am going to welcome weekend for both schools (doing the crazy 1-day trip for the full weekend) to test out the vibes, but getting quite nervous as the decision deadline is approaching..... Any suggestions/insights would be greatly appreciated!
Specifically, would love to hear:+ Any other factors I should consider?
+ Any false assumptions I've made above?
+ What things should I dig deeper into during Welcome Weekend (besides checking whether I like the people)?
* Plus, while I'm taking a break (at least two years) from consulting, happy to answer any questions about consulting as well!
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Hi! Congrats on two great admits! I’m a current Kellogg student and fellow introvert. Kellogg does have lots of parties because it’s culture tends to attract sociable people but as an introvert I have found that it’s actually a great place to be if you’re not so into parties too. That’s because Kellogg ppl aren’t just partiers they’re also just really great inclusive and friendly people. It’s extremely easy to make friends here regardless of your personality type.
As for your decision, correct me if I’m wrong but it sounds like you’re looking for design/product jobs in Asia? Specifically tech? Your pro/con lists are very good for Kellogg you’ve definitely done your research. I agree with your assessment on the global brand name. That’s typically not a great area for Kellogg. I would add though that we did have a couple of international tech companies with position in Asia recruit on campus this year. However outside of those I could see it being a challenge. On the plus side though Kellogg does very well in tech recruiting if you’re willing to recruit in the US. This is especially true for MMM students and that sounds like a great program for you.
I can’t comment very well on Wharton, so I hope your admit weekends help but I’m happy to answer anymore questions you have if you need it.
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As for your decision, correct me if I’m wrong but it sounds like you’re looking for design/product jobs in Asia? Specifically tech? Your pro/con lists are very good for Kellogg you’ve definitely done your research. I agree with your assessment on the global brand name. That’s typically not a great area for Kellogg. I would add though that we did have a couple of international tech companies with position in Asia recruit on campus this year. However outside of those I could see it being a challenge. On the plus side though Kellogg does very well in tech recruiting if you’re willing to recruit in the US. This is especially true for MMM students and that sounds like a great program for you.
I can’t comment very well on Wharton, so I hope your admit weekends help but I’m happy to answer anymore questions you have if you need it.
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