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New post 16 Apr 2014, 04:01
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i took this test today.

score: 750 (q50/v44)

quant:(13 wrong)
few questions were really good but didnt felt that it was adaptive ..
with 13 wrong and score 50 it was little weird.
overall i will say its a good practice.

verbal:(16 wrong):
the questions i felt were really good and test also has some good passages.
verbal i will say almost level of gmat prep .
again with 16 wrong and getting a score of 44 is little awkward.

pros:
=good question bank overall.
=userfriendly site.
=great explanation in the end with some good strategies.

cons:
=scoring pattern not accurate.(IMO deduct 50 from your score to judge your level)
=explanation for few questions were missing.
=few of the questions are already out their in the forum.

hope it helps


Took the free test today and got a 28 in verbal in spite of having 14 incorrect.
Scored 50 in Quant with 13 incorrect. Surprised!
I think that their percentile evaluation method is not properly functioning.
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I took only the verbal part of it and finished a few minutes before the time was over. I made 9 mistakes and not any was in a row. I score well on other diagnostic tests, but I was surprised when I saw 31 on this test. I expected to score around 40. My guess is maybe the reason why I score so ridiculously is that I took only verbal part of it and their scoring algorithm considers this decisive. I would like to hear opinion of others and economist's experts.
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New post 16 May 2014, 10:08
i took this test today and it has left me little confused. i got Q48 (with 10 incorrect) and V30 (with 11 incorrect) total just 630.
i was feeling the test is easy as i finished before time.

day before yesterday i took GMATprep test 1 and got 670(Q47- 12 incorrect & 35 V 17 incorrect).

now i am unable to understand that my no of incorrect ans have come down and wrong but still my score has dropped.

is it because i answered first 2 que on verbal wrong..? also my wong ans were more spread out on this test.

somebody pls help to understand.
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i took this test today and it has left me little confused. i got Q48 (with 10 incorrect) and V30 (with 11 incorrect) total just 630.
i was feeling the test is easy as i finished before time.

day before yesterday i took GMATprep test 1 and got 670(Q47- 12 incorrect & 35 V 17 incorrect).

now i am unable to understand that my no of incorrect ans have come down and wrong but still my score has dropped.

is it because i answered first 2 que on verbal wrong..? also my wong ans were more spread out on this test.

somebody pls help to understand.


The GMAT is an adaptive test. The number of questions you get right/wrong doesn't matter too much.

To quote Liz from the previous page:
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A score can dip from one exam to another even with the same amount of knowledge ot the same percentage of correct/incorrect. The GMAT scoring algorithm takes many factors into account including where you make errors (eg making mistakes on 'graded' versus experimental questions, or the 'weight' of the question itself etc), how many mistakes you commit in a row, whether you finish both sections or leave questions out, whether the last few questions of either section seemed like they were guessed at (ie did you spend only a few seconds on the last few questions as opposed to the full time you should have), how you felt on test day - these can all affect score.

From one test to the next you can easily jump +/- 30 points (and even up to 80 or so) depending on where the mistakes are. So you can get the same percentage of right and wrong on two exams with the same amount of knowledge and yet have a score that differs by quite a bit. This is the same as the real GMAT. To illustrate, I can make a mistake every other question in the Quant over 5 exams (ie in every exam my percentage is 50% but have a score range from, say, a 15 to a 35, for example, which is quite insane, but it shows too that where you make mistakes can often be more important than how many. Overall, when a student wants to know where he/she stands, the best way to do so is to take the average after a few exams. This should get you to a fairly close estimation of where you are at.

It is possible that one exam may be off just because of where you made your mistakes rather than how many. But in general, our students tend to score within about +/- 30 points or so from what they get on our tests and the GMAT test preps.

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New post 28 May 2014, 10:23
I was shocked too when I just saw my result. I felt the questions were quite easy and expected a score around 660 but instead received 540.

The quantitative was similar to GMAT PREP: Economist: 24/37 right Q43 GMAT PREP: 22/37 rightQ42

But in Verbal there was a massive difference in score estimation.
In Verbal I got 27 of 41 right and I received a score of V23!! How can this be when I received in Gmat Prep with 29 of 41 right and received a V38 ?

As previous people had the same issue I believe that the economist has changed the scoring algorithm. Unfortunately they made it worse:D To the previous posters: Don't worry about the outcome. Its quite feasible to say that adding 100 points to "current" (may 28th 2014) economist score will give you the equivalent more accurate GMAT Prep estimation :)

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I took the practice today and scored a 640 Q44/V35. I usually score around 680-720 on other CATs with a Q around 45 - 49 and V around 38 - 40.

Despite my lower than average score, the # of questions I got wrong were less than other CATs.

So before anyone feels discouraged by their low scores especially compared with previous CAT scores, know that what really counts for these CATs is understanding your strengths and weaknesses. I though the test questions really highlighted my strengths and weaknesses (S: reading comprehension - 0 wrong; W: overlapping sets, data sufficiency, critical reasoning).

For math, there weren't any probability or permutations combinations questions I encountered. I feel like those are the harder ones tested on the exam.

I feel that my verbal score was way too low given that I had only 6 questions wrong and 25 questions correct in a row. Maybe the score is really affected by how you perform in the beginning and in the end which is where most of my errors occurred. There was also a weird instance where I had a long reading passage (4 paragraphs) and answered only one question in a critical reasoning fashion.

Overall, I recommend looking at your estimated score with a grain of salt and look at the # of questions you got right/wrong. I made stupid mistakes (very freaking stupid mistakes) in math, but recovered well in verbal.
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I think the Economist Scoring is weird...

Today I gave free test of The Economist GMAT Tutor, - q49/v30 - 640

Q 49 - even after 16 wrong ; 2 times 4 continues questions wrong. (GMAT PREP - 11 wrong - Q49)

where as in Verbal ,

Only V30 - after having just 10 incorrect that too not consecutive.
Incorrect Q.s - 1,6,13,17,19,23,24,29,35,38.
I have never got less than V34 in MGMAT , and my number of incorrect questions in MGMAT CATs were between 15 to 18 , in fact I got V36 and V38 in GMAT PREP.

Also , questions were too easy to answer in Verbal. I was surprised to see V30. !!!!
SC - Almost all SC were one liner questions.(which is not the case in REAL GMAT).
RC - Too direct questions, NO Inference based.

Quant Q.s were time taking, good for practice. But Don't Rely on the scoring.
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The scoring pattern is really weird on Economist Gmat

I got 8 verbal wrong and got 26.
only 2 of them were in a row.
i seriously doubt if the score is correct.
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New post 20 Aug 2014, 23:21
I took the test today,
with a 9 wrong in quant. I got 45 as my score...
and with 12 wrong in verbal, i got a 30 as my score!!!!!!!
economist cat - 610(Q45, V30) and this was pretty awkward since people with a lot more mistakes have got so much more than me!!!
and no, there are hardly any "clustered" mistakes... in verbal i got 2 wrongs twice, and in quant i got 3 wrongs once...
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I took the practice today and scored a 640 Q44/V35. I usually score around 680-720 on other CATs with a Q around 45 - 49 and V around 38 - 40.

Despite my lower than average score, the # of questions I got wrong were less than other CATs.

I feel that my verbal score was way too low given that I had only 6 questions wrong and 25 questions correct in a row. Maybe the score is really affected by how you perform in the beginning and in the end which is where most of my errors occurred. There was also a weird instance where I had a long reading passage (4 paragraphs) and answered only one question in a critical reasoning fashion.

Overall, I recommend looking at your estimated score with a grain of salt and look at the # of questions you got right/wrong. I made stupid mistakes (very freaking stupid mistakes) in math, but recovered well in verbal.


this is exactly what happened with me! got 1 CR question with a long reading passage; plus I tend to make more mistakes towards the end!
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It's really weird, i just took the test and scored 570 (Q46-V23)
in Q: i got 10 wrong question with 4 wrong among the 10 first questions
but what makes me crazy is V:
i got 15 wrong questions with 2 wrong questions among the 14 first ones, and the rest was almost evenly distributed with no more the 3 consecutive wq.
in GMATPrep i scored 700 (Q50-V34) with 13 wrong question in verbal, solo..

i think they changed their algorithm so that people subscribe to their courses with such bad scores to improve them.
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New post 29 Aug 2014, 23:44
I am member of their complete Prep program. I took the first simulation test after finishing around 65% of the course. I was finding quant too easy and finished around 10 minutes before time. I got a 47 with 10 questions wrong, but I don't complain as I got 4 wrong in the first 10, so may be that's the reason for the low score. In verbal also I found the SC and RC too easy and finished the test 5 minutes ahead of time. I got a 31 with total of 9 questions wrong and only two wrong in first 10! Something is terribly wrong with the scoring pattern!
As a matter of fact none of the CAT available are close enough to the real GMAT in terms of standard and scoring, not even GMAT prep! I have appeared for real GMAT and the standard of SC questions is a lot higher than we see in GMAT prep of any other CAT's. Better to rely on basics and prepare ourselves.
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I have positive but mixed feelings about the Economist GMAT prep software. I used the Economist GMAT prep software intensively for six weeks, spending around 50 hours just on the course instruction materials and completing 70% of the course. Then I took the real GMAT yesterday. Here are my scores:

Week 1 Economist 680 49Q 36V
Week 2 GMATPrep 730 48Q 42V
Week 3 Economist 710 50Q 38V
Week 4 GMATPrep 750 49Q 42V
Week 5 GMATPrep 750 50Q 41V
Week 6 Real GMAT 770 49Q 46V

So the conclusion from my experience seems to be that the GMATPrep scores are better indications of expected score than the Economist tests. Specifically, the Economist tests were consistently undervaluing my Verbal aptitude.

Further, the Score Forecast function on the Economist software was way off the mark. Right before the real test, Score Forecast put me in the range of 680-730.

While the Economist software helped me learn the material, the tests seemed to be quite a bit off the mark, at least in comparison to the GMATPrep tests.
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How much does the economist tutor gmat simulating test show our capability? as in, i took the test only for quant section (as i am still in the preparative stage) and scored a Q47. Does it show my capacity in any way? THe test was easy i felt, although I did take more time for tougher questions and in doing so got an easy qn wrong.
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Hi,

I gave their free mock yesterday and with 6 questions wrong.. All scattered. got 89 percentile in quant... which boiled down to 49 which I feel is an underprediction.

In verbal got 20 wrong. :oops: and got a paltry 28....55 percentile or so. My GMATCLUB TESTS mock scores reflected similar result which was taken day before.

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Hi,

I gave the Economist GMAT & found the result to be very weird

1) Quant I got only 6 questions wrong with very first question wrong & rest of the 5 questions in the middle randomly but I only got 39,is this really possible? such a penalty for doing just one question wrong in top 10?

2) Verbal - I got 16 questions wrong with most in the middle randomly but got 31,is this correct?

So in total I got 590 mostly due to low quant but is my quant worth 39 after just 6 wrong questions?

I think I should get atleast 49 not 39,

Can anyone please explain me this logic of Economist that why it happened?





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Interesting, because I tried Economist mock this morning and I got a 650. The break-down was 48 in quant and 32 in verbal. The funny thing is that I missed only 8 questions in verbal (no stripes of incorrect answers at all!) ---> I was doing really well in the exam with a number of bold-face, complete the argument, long science passage, full underlined SC's and all the funky things you see when reaching the +700 level. Also, I tried the free Kaplan CAT1 last Friday and I got a 740... I think this test was just a shout to devastate my morale...


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i took this test today.

score: 750 (q50/v44)

quant:(13 wrong)
few questions were really good but didnt felt that it was adaptive ..
with 13 wrong and score 50 it was little weird.
overall i will say its a good practice.

verbal:(16 wrong):
the questions i felt were really good and test also has some good passages.
verbal i will say almost level of gmat prep .
again with 16 wrong and getting a score of 44 is little awkward.

pros:
=good question bank overall.
=userfriendly site.
=great explanation in the end with some good strategies.

cons:
=scoring pattern not accurate.(IMO deduct 50 from your score to judge your level)
=explanation for few questions were missing.
=few of the questions are already out their in the forum.

hope it helps


Same here. 640 Q48 ( 9 wrong) V31(7 wrong). It has left me confused whether I should be happy that mistakes have gone down or be careful of 'where' I do the mistake. Anyway, I scored 670 in MGMAT(Free) with far more wrong answers distributed evenly.

How to take the result and improvise?
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New post 27 Oct 2015, 04:36
Hi all,

I just took Economist Simulated Test ,and I am pretty devastated as According to that test, I scored 550. A day after tomorrow is my Real GMAT Test.

I don't know how it calculated the score,

I got 14 wrong on quant and scaled score is 44
I got 14 wrong on verbal and scaled score is 23

The only difference I noticed while reviewing is that I made 4 continous question wrong in start of the verbal section
And I made continous 4 question wrong at the end of quant section.
Everything else is similar.

One more thing, This test's analysis states that I took more time per question in some of the questions in verbal section than the 'should be time per question'. Does 'time taken per question' matter or the overall time of a section?

Please provide your valuable inputs. Don't know what to do now as my real GMAT test is day after tomorrow.
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Hi all,

I just took Economist Simulated Test ,and I am pretty devastated as According to that test, I scored 550. A day after tomorrow is my Real GMAT Test.

I don't know how it calculated the score,

I got 14 wrong on quant and scaled score is 44
I got 14 wrong on verbal and scaled score is 23

The only difference I noticed while reviewing is that I made 4 continous question wrong in start of the verbal section
And I made continous 4 question wrong at the end of quant section.
Everything else is similar.

One more thing, This test's analysis states that I took more time per question in some of the questions in verbal section than the 'should be time per question'. Does 'time taken per question' matter or the overall time of a section?

Please provide your valuable inputs. Don't know what to do now as my real GMAT test is day after tomorrow.


Hi! Quant and Verbal are scored differently.

From my personal experience their test is very poorly designed, get the free GMATPrep and use it if you have time, otherwise just relax, it's too late to worry about that.
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I got 680, Q48 and V37. It's the first CAT I take but it seems a weird score, especially for quant where I'm pretty sure I still need to practice a lot. I was expecting something in the 500s and my goal is over 650.
Do you think it's over inflated much in the quant section?
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