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08 May 2011, 19:45
By inference E. The study is comparing the influence of television on the English language ability of children when the variable in question is their parents' English reference point.

(Coincidentally, my childhood is good anecdotal evidence of this. Although in addition to PBS, NPR was an amazing way to pick lots of things up too.)
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08 May 2011, 20:05
Between D and E.

D comparison meaning isn't complete. POE.

E compared with ... and the comparison meaning is correct.

E wins.
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Between D and E.

D comparison meaning isn't complete. POE.

E compared with ... and the comparison meaning is correct.

E wins.

Hi Amit,
You cant have D as an option because compared to is wrong usage . we need compare with.
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09 May 2011, 04:45
Per GMAT both the idioms are good.

sudhir18n wrote:
amit2k9 wrote:
Between D and E.

D comparison meaning isn't complete. POE.

E compared with ... and the comparison meaning is correct.

E wins.

Hi Amit,
You cant have D as an option because compared to is wrong usage . we need compare with.

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09 May 2011, 04:52
MSDHONI wrote:
Per GMAT both the idioms are good.

sudhir18n wrote:
amit2k9 wrote:
Between D and E.

D comparison meaning isn't complete. POE.

E compared with ... and the comparison meaning is correct.

E wins.

Hi Amit,
You cant have D as an option because compared to is wrong usage . we need compare with.

Hi Dhoni,
I know Manhattan SC says GMAT ignores the distinction.. so lets believe it .
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09 May 2011, 05:30
That being said,I must say that you are good at SC!!
aapki saflta ka rraz kya hai??sona chandi chyavanprash??

sudhir18n wrote:
amit2k9 wrote:
Between D and E.

D comparison meaning isn't complete. POE.

E compared with ... and the comparison meaning is correct.

E wins.

Hi Amit,
You cant have D as an option because compared to is wrong usage . we need compare with.
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Hi Dhoni,
I know Manhattan SC says GMAT ignores the distinction.. so lets believe it .[/quote]
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09 May 2011, 13:37
The problem with the original choice that it does not compare apples to/with apples!!Children's parents must be compared with children's parents..Choice "E" is the correct choice over here!!
Note :- both the idioms, Compared with & compared to, are correct on GMAT!!
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28 Jun 2011, 12:30
+1 E

We have to include the parents in the comparisons. A, B and C out.
D changes the meaning. The original meaning refers to parents whose native language is English.
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28 Jun 2011, 13:21
Can someone please explain why "as compared to" does not work? ie why is it "as compared with"?
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09 Jul 2011, 14:12
in option D- isn't it understood that ' parents who donot speak english...'..is there something wrong with it?
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Can someone please explain why "as compared to" does not work? ie why is it "as compared with"?

Steven,

"Compared to" and "compared with" are both fine idioms. Honestly, when you add in the "as" they both become suspect, but neither "as compared with" or "as compared to" are grammatically or idiomatically wrong. As bad as they might sound, we can't cross off any answers for this reason.

The real issue here is one that you can discover by always remembering to ask: "What is this problem really about?" and then "What does the GMAT like to test within that subject?" You need to get in the habit of asking yourself these questions when you see certain trigger words. The word "compared" in this problem is a giveaway that this problem is really about comparisons, which are really just a special form of parallelism. With comparisons, you need to compare apples to apples. The GMAT loves to create wrong answer choices that compares two things that can't logically be compared. Here, you need to compare either:

-children with children

or

-parents with parents

but you can't compare

-children with parents.

This gets us quickly down to D and E. If you can get that far, you've done great work! Between D and E, don't worry about it. We're constantly working to improve our curriculum, and this is one we have under review.

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12 Jul 2011, 22:17
i am confused, i just read somewhere a big discussion and an article on compared to/ compared with. And now what i read is GMAT doesn't care about the idiom. Appreciate if someone can help clarify this.
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12 Jul 2011, 23:36
@agdimple333, you can read the distinction in Aristotle Prep. In case you are unable to do so, please holler.
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13 Jul 2011, 08:41
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@agdimple333, you can read the distinction in Aristotle Prep. In case you are unable to do so, please holler.

subhashgosh - i know the distinction. what i mean is at one place it is posted that GMAT considers compared to / compared with equally and in the below link it is posted that GMAT does care about the terms' differenence and proper usage - 1000-sc-compare-to-vs-compare-with-77654.html
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13 Jul 2011, 20:35
Ok, so here is the thing - you'll have to take a call based on the meaning of the sentence and the context, which is of course the deciding factor in SC questions. The point is that compare to and compare with are not too significant to make a difference between right and wrong answer choices.
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15 Jul 2011, 03:41
StevenSzekeres wrote:
Can someone please explain why "as compared to" does not work? ie why is it "as compared with"?

The Manhattan sc guide clearly states that GMAT deems no difference btw compared with & compared to
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