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# Need Help getting to 47 Q

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05 Apr 2019, 15:51
Hello, I am a student from the U.S who is shooting for a 720 GMAT score. I am currently scoring V 37-38 and Quant 40-41. I have done the math and realized that I need a Q 47 and a V41 to get to a 720. I feel as if I am close to scoring a V41 on the verbal portion but could really use some help with Quant. I DO NOT need to score anywhere past 65% on Quant so I do not need a ton of advanced help. Rather I need help getting all 600-700 level questions right and maybe 50% of the 700 level questions. Does anyone have some good advice for me? I have worked through the Manhattan books and understand most of the general concepts but just need more practice. Additionally, combinatorics and geometry are my weakest subjects but they do not appear too often. Do you think I can neglect these two subjects and still receive a 47 on Quant? PLEASE help with any strategies or tips!!!
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05 Apr 2019, 16:34
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On an adaptive test like the GMAT, the worst thing you can do, from a scoring perspective, is answer an easy question incorrectly. So if you omit Counting+Probability from your prep altogether, you'll normally find your Q scores are more volatile than you'd typically expect. On some tests, your C+P question or questions will be easy, and your wrong answers will really sabotage your score. And on other tests, your C+P question or questions will be hard, and it won't matter much that you guess at those questions.

It is true that C+P is not frequently tested, so I wouldn't suggest spending much time on it, but I would recommend you learn enough about it that you aren't in danger of answering easy and medium level questions incorrectly, because you will see at least one question on it on any test. In my experience, test takers with Verbal scores as high as yours typically have strong logical and conceptual skills, and are usually able to learn the more conceptual Quant topics (Number Theory and P+C in particular) very quickly, so I don't think it would take you long to build that foundation, assuming you learn from the right sources.

Geometry is a different matter altogether - it's not tested nearly as often as, say, ratios and word problems, but it's important enough on the test that you simply cannot afford to omit it from your prep, if you're targeting a Q47. It's unfortunately also quite a big topic, much more time-consuming to learn than P+C, but you'll need to invest that time to have a reasonable chance to reach your goal.
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05 Apr 2019, 18:30
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I agree with last post .

for Q 47 , you can not skip any topic from studies .

Any topic can be tested and the wrong answers for easy questions will impact the score badly .

Geometry is not that difficult to master , yiu just need to memorize few theorams and then practice the application , it should help for Geometry .

hope it helps

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delmoneyy wrote:
Hello, I am a student from the U.S who is shooting for a 720 GMAT score. I am currently scoring V 37-38 and Quant 40-41. I have done the math and realized that I need a Q 47 and a V41 to get to a 720. I feel as if I am close to scoring a V41 on the verbal portion but could really use some help with Quant. I DO NOT need to score anywhere past 65% on Quant so I do not need a ton of advanced help. Rather I need help getting all 600-700 level questions right and maybe 50% of the 700 level questions. Does anyone have some good advice for me? I have worked through the Manhattan books and understand most of the general concepts but just need more practice. Additionally, combinatorics and geometry are my weakest subjects but they do not appear too often. Do you think I can neglect these two subjects and still receive a 47 on Quant? PLEASE help with any strategies or tips!!!

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06 Apr 2019, 08:42
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Hi delmoneyy,

Welcome to gmatclub!

You will have to know the material well to score Q47. Check #9 HOW TO IMPROVE YOUR QUANT SCORE here:
ALL YOU NEED FOR QUANT

Hope this helps!
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delmoneyy wrote:
Hello, I am a student from the U.S who is shooting for a 720 GMAT score. I am currently scoring V 37-38 and Quant 40-41. I have done the math and realized that I need a Q 47 and a V41 to get to a 720. I feel as if I am close to scoring a V41 on the verbal portion but could really use some help with Quant. I DO NOT need to score anywhere past 65% on Quant so I do not need a ton of advanced help. Rather I need help getting all 600-700 level questions right and maybe 50% of the 700 level questions. Does anyone have some good advice for me? I have worked through the Manhattan books and understand most of the general concepts but just need more practice. Additionally, combinatorics and geometry are my weakest subjects but they do not appear too often. Do you think I can neglect these two subjects and still receive a 47 on Quant? PLEASE help with any strategies or tips!!!

I feel you can get a Q47 or even above if you:-

1) Work on your weak areas; So don't skip any topic. Do everything because you may get an easy q on any topic.

2) Practice, practice, and practice. There is no short cut!!

All the best!
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07 Apr 2019, 03:51
Hey delmoneyy,
Here are a few thoughts on how to improve your already pretty good level:

ere are a few thoughts:
Getting to the Baseline The first question is, of course, where you stand to begin with. If your English is fluent and at a high level - great. This will help you a lot going forward. If, on the other hand, English is not your mother tongue and you’re aiming for a very high score, it may make sense for you to start by working exclusively on your language skills before even officially beginning your study. Read a few books, watch a few movies, maybe even take English classes, and only then begin tackling GMAT materials.
Clearing the Verbal Hurdle - When strategizing for the exam, however, more than basic skills are important for the Verbal section. It’s just as important to teach yourself the right way to approach each question. Many people, for example, make the mistake of reading all answer choices in all questions; with the clock running, you can’t afford to do this! Many Verbal questions are ones where all the relevant information is in the question itself, and you can use the PRECISE approach to answer the question directly, and avoid becoming confused by the answers. Other questions are those in which there is a general LOGICAL rule that can help answer the question quickly – reading all answers is a waste of time here as well. Only about a third of the questions are those in which it is necessary or preferable to go over all the answer choices (using the ALTERNATIVE approach). The trick is, of course, figuring out which question is which, and this requires concentrated study, checking not only whether you got the question right, but also whether you did so quickly and efficiently.

What this section measures is your ability to analyze data and draw conclusions using reasoning skills. The mathematics needed for this section is usually not harder than secondary school level. This section is adaptive. This means that based on your answer to each question, it chooses a harder or easier question for your next question.

Learning basic Algebra, Statistics and Geometry is a necessary prerequisite to actually studying for the exam. In fact, even if you already know this information, reviewing it before you delve into GMAT questions is a very good idea.
this is only the first step, though. The important thing to work ones figuring out the most efficient way to solve each question. This will only sometimes be the straightforward, precise, answer - it will often be taking a shortcut (Alternative) - or applying a Logical rule.

These are all things the examPAL course focuses on. If you have any questions - please ask me in our chat here - ask for David and I will personally answer!
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09 Apr 2019, 09:58
HI delmoneyy,

I’m glad you reached out, and I’m happy to help. So since you seem to be stuck around a Q40, it’s clear that you have numerous quant weaknesses that are holding back your quant score. That said ,to improve your quant skills, I would cast a “wide net” (meaning don’t skip any quant topics) and follow a linear and structured study plan that allows you to individually learn each GMAT quant topic and practice each topic until you’ve gained mastery. Let me expand on this idea further.

For example, if you are learning about Number Properties, you should develop as much conceptual knowledge about Number Properties as possible. In other words, your goal will be to completely understand properties of factorials, perfect squares, quadratic patterns, LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, and remainders, to name a few concepts. After carefully reviewing the conceptual underpinnings of how to answer Number Properties questions, practice by answering 50 or more questions just from Number Properties. When you do dozens of questions of the same type one after the other, you learn just what it takes to get questions of that type correct consistently. If you aren't getting close to 90 percent of questions of a certain type correct, go back and seek to better understand how that type of question works, and then do more questions of that type until you get to around at least 90 percent accuracy in your training. If you get 100 percent of some sets correct, even better. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

In order to follow the path described above, you may need some new quant materials, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant courses.

Feel free to reach out with further questions.

Good luck!
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09 Apr 2019, 10:35
delmoneyy wrote:
Hello, I am a student from the U.S who is shooting for a 720 GMAT score. I am currently scoring V 37-38 and Quant 40-41. I have done the math and realized that I need a Q 47 and a V41 to get to a 720. I feel as if I am close to scoring a V41 on the verbal portion but could really use some help with Quant. I DO NOT need to score anywhere past 65% on Quant so I do not need a ton of advanced help. Rather I need help getting all 600-700 level questions right and maybe 50% of the 700 level questions. Does anyone have some good advice for me? I have worked through the Manhattan books and understand most of the general concepts but just need more practice. Additionally, combinatorics and geometry are my weakest subjects but they do not appear too often. Do you think I can neglect these two subjects and still receive a 47 on Quant? PLEASE help with any strategies or tips!!!

Hi, Welcome to GMATClub, First complete OG questions in GMATClub. Once it completed, check your error log. Based on the error log work on your weak topics. One good option is to try a free trial of Target Test Prep. It gives you the sectional wise and level wise accuracy. Hope it may help for where a need to focus. Then you can try with other sources like Math Revolution, Manhattan, Veritas, eGMAT scholaranium questions.
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