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Which of the following, if true, most logically completes the argument?

Some dairy farmers in the province of Takandia want to give their cows a synthetic hormone that increases milk production. Many Takandians, however, do not want to buy milk from cows given the synthetic hormone. For this reason Takandia’s legislature is considering a measure requiring milk from cows given the hormone to be labeled as such. Even if the measure is defeated, dairy farmers who use the hormone will probably lose customers, since __________.

A. it has not been proven that any trace of the synthetic hormone exists in the milk of cows given the hormone

B. some farmers in Takandia who plan to use the synthetic hormone will probably not do so if the measure were passed

C. milk from cows that have not been given the synthetic hormone can be labeled as such without any legislative action

D. the legislature’s consideration of the bill has been widely publicized

E. milk that comes from cows given the synthetic hormone looks and tastes the same as milk from cows that have not received the hormone
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Really good question from the new OG. I notice how the questions itself (and based on what i am reading online) are more sophisticated than in the past

back to the question.

You may consider this question "complete the blank" as a strenghtening question in this case

The core of the question is this sentence

For this reason Takandia’s legislature is considering a measure requiring milk from cows given the hormone to be labeled as such.

A) if we have the method to trace the hormaone or not is not our concern

B) what will do the farmers in a foresable future is not what we are looking for

C) Wins. How we can (farmers) lose customers: only if the cows that produce good milk are labeled as ill cows, full of hormones

D) the number of people that do know about the ban or not is not the problem, actually

E) looks and tastes milk............is not related to our labeled milk if it is good or not.

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Hello,

I think analysis is wrong. See how:


Premise1: Farmers wanted to use synthetic hormones that are not favored by consumers

Premise2: Legislators want to favor consumers by clearly labeling the milk starting "milk contain synthetic hormones"

Conclusion: This measure even if defeated would have desired effect (from legislator perspective i.e. customers do not buy milk with synthetic hormone or dairy farmers will loose customers)???

So here the author states that if the measure (labeling appropriately) is UNSUCESSFUL then still it will have desired outcome (favor consumers from consuming milk containing synthetic hormones). What could be the possible reason for that:

Well if the milk "not containing the synthetic hormones" is labeled as such then consumers will be aware of milk containing the synthetic hormones because the later could not be labeled.

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Premise - Farmers want to increase milk production by giving synthethic hormone to cows.
- Many people however dont want to buy milk from cows that have been given the synthethic hormone.
- Legislature is considering a measure where milk coming from such cows should be labelled.

Conclusion
- If the measure of the Legislature is defeated then too the farmers who use cows with synthethic hormone will lose customers.

We have to provide a reason as to why the conclusion will hold.
We would have to find an answer choice that would help strengthen the conclusion.
For ease of use lets use HM - Milk with Hormones and NM - Normal milk without hormones.
If the HM producers are not labelling their milk ( which they would not do as labelling it voluntarily would hurt their sales) , and NM producers label their milk as such (ie they label their milk as free from hormones ) then the milk consumers would naturally come to know which milk is hormone free and which one is not. Hence this would hurt sales.

Lets consider the answer choices:

A it has not been proven that any trace of the synthetic hormone exists in the milk of cows given the hormone
- Even if this has not yet been proven then too the fact remains that people are against milk from such cows. This does not provide any reason as to why the sales of milk would go down.

B some farmers in Takandia who plan to use the synthetic hormone will probably not do so if the measure were passed
- If some farmers will not use the hormone then sales should go up not decrease - weakens the conclusion.

C milk from cows that have not been given the synthetic hormone can be labeled as such without any legislative action
- as per our line of reasoning - Correct answer choice.

D. the legislature’s consideration of the bill has been widely publicized
- This does not provide any reason for the sales to go down

E milk that comes from cows given the synthetic hormone looks and tastes the same as milk from cows that have not received the hormone[/quote]
- There is no mention of preference of taste in the passage. Even if the taste is similar or different it has no bearing on the conclusion.

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From the customer's point of view, there is what we can call, for simplicity, 'good milk' (with no hormone) and 'bad milk' (with the hormone). If the bill passes, the bad milk will be labeled 'bad milk' and customers won't buy it. But if the bill does not pass, then the bad milk will not be labeled 'bad milk'. So why would the sales of bad milk still drop? If customers can still identify good milk and bad milk. And that will happen if all the good milk is labeled 'good milk', and the bad milk has no label at all. That's what answer choice C is saying - the customer will know which milk is good, because the good milk will be labeled as such.

Vikas gives the correct analysis above. I think the other replies might have misunderstood what answer C means. Answer C is not saying that farmers who produce hormone-free milk will label their milk incorrectly as "full of hormones"; no farmer would choose to do that even if it were legal, because that would hurt sales. So if that's what C meant, C would be irrelevant. C is saying that farmers who make hormone-free milk will label it as "hormone-free", which will help customers distinguish between the milk they want and the milk they don't want.
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Hi Ian,

glad to see you once again here on the board. I always like your cutting edge explanations. Moreover, I agree with you, my mistake in C explanation.

Actually, I thought the other way around, reading not very carefully

However, this demonstrates how is possible to pick the right one if you understand the gist of the question, indeed. That's because GMAC questions have consistency.

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glad to see you once again here on the board. I always like your cutting edge explanations.


Thanks carcass - good to see you too, and I hope everything's going well! :)
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From the customer's point of view, there is what we can call, for simplicity, 'good milk' (with no hormone) and 'bad milk' (with the hormone). If the bill passes, the bad milk will be labeled 'bad milk' and customers won't buy it. But if the bill does not pass, then the bad milk will not be labeled 'bad milk'. So why would the sales of bad milk still drop? If customers can still identify good milk and bad milk. And that will happen if all the good milk is labeled 'good milk', and the bad milk has no label at all. That's what answer choice C is saying - the customer will know which milk is good, because the good milk will be labeled as such.

Vikas gives the correct analysis above. I think the other replies might have misunderstood what answer C means. Answer C is not saying that farmers who produce hormone-free milk will label their milk incorrectly as "full of hormones"; no farmer would choose to do that even if it were legal, because that would hurt sales. So if that's what C meant, C would be irrelevant. C is saying that farmers who make hormone-free milk will label it as "hormone-free", which will help customers distinguish between the milk they want and the milk they don't want.



Hi Ian,

In your reasoning, what if the farmers who use synthetic hormone to produce 'bad milk' also label their milk as 'good milk' since there is no legislation for that and then sell their milk. Then also customers will not be able to identify the milk type and hence there will be no loss of customers.
What's wrong with this thinking ?

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What about answer choice D. If the legislation has been widely publicized, that means consumers will not purchase the milk labelled.
Also - what does it mean to say - if the measure is defeated? Does it mean the bill was NOT implemented of it was implemented but it failed.

If the later is true, then D can be correct because if everyone knows the hormone milk will be labelled, they won't consume it and thus farmers will lose customers

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I think analysis is wrong. See how:


Premise1: Farmers wanted to use synthetic hormones that are not favored by consumers

Premise2: Legislators want to favor consumers by clearly labeling the milk starting "milk contain synthetic hormones"

Conclusion: This measure even if defeated would have desired effect (from legislator perspective i.e. customers do not buy milk with synthetic hormone or dairy farmers will loose customers)???

So here the author states that if the measure (labeling appropriately) is UNSUCESSFUL then still it will have desired outcome (favor consumers from consuming milk containing synthetic hormones). What could be the possible reason for that:

Well if the milk "not containing the synthetic hormones" is labeled as such then consumers will be aware of milk containing the synthetic hormones because the later could not be labeled.

Hope it helps.

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cuhmoon, if the legislation is defeated, that means it does not receive enough votes to be enacted. In that case, none of the milk would be labeled, and consumers would have no way to identify which milk to avoid, regardless of how much attention the legislation itself might have received. To conclude otherwise, we'd have to know that the specific brands of milk to be labeled were actually named in the legislation. However, there's no indication that this is the case.
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The implications of the prompt are that labeling the milk from cows given the hormone would cause the farmers who use the hormone to lose customers. To fill the blank we need to find something that will result in their losing customers even without the legislation.

A it has not been proven that any trace of the synthetic hormone exists in the milk of cows given the hormone

This does not give customers reason or a way to avoid milk from cows given the hormone.

B some farmers in Takandia who plan to use the synthetic hormone will probably not do so if the measure were passed

This says what will happen if the legislation is passed rather than what will happen if it is not.

C milk from cows that have not been given the synthetic hormone can be labeled as such without any legislative action

Ah, so even if the milk from cows given the hormone is not labeled as such, the milk from cows not given the hormone can still be labeled as such, creating a way for customers to differentiate between the two and avoid the milk from the cows given the hormone. So the farmers using the hormone would still lose customers.

D. the legislature’s consideration of the bill has been widely publicized

This is interesting, because the publicity likely increases customer awareness of the use of the hormone, but this does not show how customers would be able to differentiate between the two types of milk.

E milk that comes from cows given the synthetic hormone looks and tastes the same as milk from cows that have not received the hormone

What this is saying is that without labeling customers would have difficulty knowing which milk is which. So this does not show how or why they would avoid the milk from cows given the hormone.


Since it shows how customers could differentiate between the two types of milk even if the legislation were not to get passed, the best answer is C.
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Which of the following, if true, most logically completes the argument?

Some dairy farmers in the province of Takandia want to give their cows a synthetic hormone that increases milk production. Many Takandians, however, do not want to buy milk from cows given the synthetic hormone. For this reason Takandia's legislature is considering a measure requiring milk from cows given the hormone to be labeled as such. Even if the measure is defeated, dairy farmers who use the hormone will probably lose customers, since _______________?

(A) it has not been proven that any trace of the synthetic hormone exists in the milk of cows given the hormone
(B) some farmers in Takandia who plan to use the synthetic hormone will probably not do so if the measure were passed
(C) milk from cows that have not been given the synthetic hormone can be labeled as such without any legislative action
(D) the legislature's consideration of the bill has been widely publicized
(E) milk that comes from cows given the synthetic hormone looks and tastes the same as milk from cows that have not received the hormone
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Some dairy farmers in the province of Takandia want to give their cows a synthetic hormone that increases milk production. Many Takandians, however, do not want to buy milk from cows given the synthetic hormone. For this reason Takandia’s legislature is considering a measure requiring milk from cows given the hormone to be labeled as such. Even if the measure is defeated, dairy farmers who use the hormone will probably lose customers, since __________.

Boil it down - Even if legislation to label milk from cows given hormone does not go through, dairy farmers who use hormone will lose customers because______
- May the organic milk can be labeled as No hormone milk

A. it has not been proven that any trace of the synthetic hormone exists in the milk of cows given the hormone - Irrelevant

B. some farmers in Takandia who plan to use the synthetic hormone will probably not do so if the measure were passed - Irrelevant - we are concerned about the case when legislation does not go through

C. milk from cows that have not been given the synthetic hormone can be labeled as such without any legislative action - Correct

D. the legislature’s consideration of the bill has been widely publicized - Irrelevant

E. milk that comes from cows given the synthetic hormone looks and tastes the same as milk from cows that have not received the hormone - Incorrect - this gives a reason why people might be unable to distinguish between hormone and organic milk

Answer C
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