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Prices at the producer level are only 1.3 percent higher now

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Option B contains a comma before "and" that is incorrect, confirmed with OG 2017 SC no 758.
This comma leads to option "B" be deemed as incorrect because preposition "and" doesn't link two independent clauses.

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Prices at the producer level are only 1.3 percent higher now than a year ago and are going down, even though floods in the Midwest and drought in the south are hurting crops and therefore raised corn and soybean prices.

1) Prices.........are and are going down
2) floods in the Midwest and drought in the south ..........are hurting

Meaning:
Prices are higher this year and are now going down even though floods and drought are hurting crops. This has raised corn and soybean prices.

Error:
Use of 'raised is wrong as this is simple past tense whereas the whole sentence is in present continuous tense. It does make sense.

Option B corrects this error.

Note: 'As' is used to show an extent or degree of something while making comparison. So using 'as' here is non-sensical.
Even though and despite can be used interchangeably.
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Option B contains a comma before "and" that is incorrect, confirmed with OG 2017 SC no 758.
This comma leads to option "B" be deemed as incorrect because preposition "and" doesn't link two independent clauses.



Hi GMAT Ninja and other experts
It would be great if you could answer this.


Why the correct sentence uses a comma before and? As far as I know, this construction is used to connect two independent clause.

Here they can be:
Prices at the producer level are only 1.3 percent higher now than those of a year ago.

Prices at the producer level are going down.

The subject prices has two verbs are and are going down. And we use just a conjunction 'and' to connect verbs of the same subject. Then why a comma?

Also can this be a correct version of this sentence?

Prices at the producer level are only 1.3 percent higher now than a year ago.


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I have posted my query and need some clarity on use of 'comma+and' construction in this sentence.


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I have in my notes that we don't have to use comma to connect two clauses when the subject is the same, although I did not write down the source. Someone should confirm this :)

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The simple answer is that the GMAT is not consistent on this. Keep in mind that comma usage is generally not tested directly. The one absolute rule you *can* rely on is that you can't join two independent clauses with *only* a comma, as in "I like pie, it is tasty." You always need a conjunction or a semicolon.
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Shiv2016, I think part of the confusion is that there's a typo in the OP: there's no comma before the "and" in the OG version of this question. Here's the corrected version:

Quote:
Prices at the producer level are only 1.3 percent higher now than a year ago and are going down, even though floods in the Midwest and drought in the south are hurting crops and therefore raised corn and soybean prices.

(A) than a year ago and are going down, even though floods in the Midwest and drought in the south are hurting crops and therefore raised
(B) than those of a year ago and are going down, even though floods in the Midwest and drought in the south are hurting crops and therefore raising
(C) than a year ago and are going down, despite floods in the Midwest and drought in the south, and are hurting crops and therefore raising
(D) as those of a year ago and are going down, even though floods in the Midwest and drought in the south hurt crops and therefore raise
(E) as they were a year ago and are going down, despite floods in the Midwest and drought in the south, and are hurting crops and therefore raising


So (B) is correct, and the comma is a non-issue. :)

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Also can this be a correct version of this sentence?

Prices at the producer level are only 1.3 percent higher now than a year ago.


In real life, your sentence would be completely fine, in my opinion. But if we're being really strict and literal with this particular OG question, it's definitely not ideal: it sounds like we're comparing the prices themselves to last year, and that's not logical. More importantly, there's a better alternative available that makes the comparison much clearer: "Prices at the producer level are only 1.3 percent higher now than those of a year ago..." The correct version sharpens the comparison between old prices and new prices.
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Prices at the producer level are only 1.3 percent higher now than a year ago and are going down, even though floods in the Midwest and drought in the south are hurting crops and therefore raised corn and soybean prices.

(A) than a year ago and are going down, even though floods in the Midwest and drought in the south are hurting crops and therefore raised
(B) than those of a year ago, and are going down, even though floods in the Midwest and drought in the south are hurting crops and therefore raising
(C) than a year ago and are going down, despite floods in the Midwest and drought in the south, and are hurting crops and therefore raising
(D) as those of a year ago and are going down, even though floods in the Midwest and drought in the south hurt crops and therefore raise
(E) as they were a year ago and are going down, despite floods in the Midwest and drought in the south, and are hurting crops and therefore raising
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Shiv2016, I think part of the confusion is that there's a typo in the OP: there's no comma before the "and" in the OG version of this question. Here's the corrected version:

Quote:
Prices at the producer level are only 1.3 percent higher now than a year ago and are going down, even though floods in the Midwest and drought in the south are hurting crops and therefore raised corn and soybean prices.

(A) than a year ago and are going down, even though floods in the Midwest and drought in the south are hurting crops and therefore raised
(B) than those of a year ago and are going down, even though floods in the Midwest and drought in the south are hurting crops and therefore raising
(C) than a year ago and are going down, despite floods in the Midwest and drought in the south, and are hurting crops and therefore raising
(D) as those of a year ago and are going down, even though floods in the Midwest and drought in the south hurt crops and therefore raise
(E) as they were a year ago and are going down, despite floods in the Midwest and drought in the south, and are hurting crops and therefore raising


So (B) is correct, and the comma is a non-issue. :)

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Also can this be a correct version of this sentence?

Prices at the producer level are only 1.3 percent higher now than a year ago.


In real life, your sentence would be completely fine, in my opinion. But if we're being really strict and literal with this particular OG question, it's definitely not ideal: it sounds like we're comparing the prices themselves to last year, and that's not logical. More importantly, there's a better alternative available that makes the comparison much clearer: "Prices at the producer level are only 1.3 percent higher now than those of a year ago..." The correct version sharpens the comparison between old prices and new prices.


GMATNinja Can you please explain why is the below mentioned answer choice of the official question correct, although it uses the structure which seems to present a comparision between prices and last year.

Heating-oil prices are expected to be higher this year than last because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel more for crude oil than they were

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