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You come off very accomplished and seems you have done a lot.

However, you will be one of the youngest guys in the class. That will have an impact on the overall experience you’ll have during your MBA. Nothing hard work can’t fix and sounds like a sense of humor for it but still, connecting with the more established and mature candidates will take some time.

It really depends if you can wait a year and grow your profile. It doesn’t sound like you’ll have a problem with that but if you’re thinking of changing jobs or you feel that your industry may result in you getting laid off in the next six months, I would reconsider. However, I think you can do great, esp if you get planning early end get extra umph using a skilled consultant.

When I was applying, I could not wait. I was in a dead end job and needed to get away. My choice was pretty easy. I had three years of work experience at matriculation and even then I felt a bit lightweight compared to those who had five years of experienced and managed multiple teams. I have missed out on a lot of learning and reflection opportunities due to lack of experience (maturity too perhaps). Intimately, I have not failed enough by the time I was matriculating to get the full potential and benefit of an MBA.... food for thought.

Check out a few other discussions like these. They come up from time to time to see how things turned out.

Congrats on your admits and scholarships!

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bb: I constantly see your thoughtful advice and it makes me wonder where you matriculated! Are you comfortable sharing?

OP: I think you would do best to reapply assuming you can continue your work experience in a positive and effective manner (to position yourself both in life and applications). I know after getting accepts some might find it hard to do the whole process again -- but if you are fine doing this, you definitely have potential for your targets!
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Thanks for the responses, everyone!

redfield - Awesome, I appreciate it, man! I haven't taken the GMAT, I took the GRE because out of college I was exploring pursuing a grad degree in Econ. Of course, I decided against it, but now I'm wondering whether to learn a completely new test (GMAT) or just try to improve my GRE. I know we're on a forum literally called GMATclub, but what do you think?

bb - Thanks for weighing in! I'm a big fan of the site and the advice you give on these forums, so I was happy to read your response. I think the point you bring up about my age is really true and I'll have to work to overcome that. I do have one question though. When you say if I am looking to change jobs soon to reconsider, do you think getting a better job at a name brand company more in line with my post MBA interests would hurt my fall applications? I'm not worried about losing the job I currently have, but I have been exploring jumping into another job to enhance my resume and MBA profile. Would that be a mistake from your perspective?

dan3067 - Great! Thank you for your advice, it's heartening to read from someone who has such great admits.
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Hey,

So, my short answer is yes, you should shoot for a higher school.

2 things to keep in mind:

1) I'm assuming you dont mind doing what you're doing for another year which is great. But keep in mind, top schools are very unpredictable so you might not get an acceptance next year. Are you good pushing this off for 2 years instead of 1? You're young enough where it doesn't matter, but you have to consider would you be ok working for another 2 years, and if so, are you going to show some professional growth in the next 2 years? Worst case scenario what about 3?

2) Check out what deferral policies are at those places; see if there's any way a rational, polite, clear letter can get you to defer admission while you reapply. Now, if you think that isn't ethical, don't do it. But there are many who think that's part of the MBA game-- securing one option while looking for another.

Even if the schools dont allow deferral, you can say something like "I appreciate you thinking about my request, but I cannot accept this year for personal reasons. I really love your school for X reasons and I will apply again next year. Thank you blah blah"

That obviously doesn't guarantee readmission, but I THINK it makes it more likely; adcoms appreciate honest and good notes.


3 tips for applying to better ranked schools:

1) Take the GMAT and improve your quant.

I know there are many topics about how GRE will be fine. But I promise, take the GMAT and score 720 or above-- that is your goal. I PROMISE THAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

2) Think about a smart and authentic way to pitch your startups-- it doesn't matter if they're million dollar companies or not -- what matters is you have an intellectual takeaway from being a part of that process that taught you something bigger about business/life.

3) Pick 3-5 schools that you research thoroughly AND go to admissions events (at least 1 for each if possible, or at least for the school you want to go to most) -- take notes and have a good takeaway if you're ever in an interview situation and it comes up.

Good luck and PM if you want-- I was poli sci major at state school, non-traditional background, and got admitted to Yale and a WL at Haas+ waiting on a M7 school. Trying to help as much as I can.
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urbanac - Thanks so much, I really appreciate the offer to help. Also, great advice, I will definitely look into deferring. Congrats on your admit and good luck with the M7 school you're waiting on!
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Hi alansmoothie

I think you have received great comments from the GC community.

I would highlight 2 issues why to deffer this year. I strongly agree to defer for up to 2 years:

1- You need to get seasoned so that you can benefit from the MBA through synthesizing your experience and MBA knowledge.

2- You will augment you resume with professional experience which will you get higher salary when entering the job market when you have 5 years of experience rather than 2 years.

You have high GRE score so it might be your essays or interview was not good enough or convinced of your goals. I believe you have story to tell and this makes wonder which schools you applied besides what you mentioned. I advise you next time to maybe hire a consultant to help you showcase. S/he might polish you experience.

Another issue which I do not know, If you want consulting field, do consulting firms require GMAT or now they accept GRE? This maybe demand you to start thinking in GMAT.

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Mo2men - Thanks! I agree I've gotten some great feedback here and thank you for contributing to it.

To answer your question regarding what other schools I applied to, the only school I've been rejected by thus far is Vanderbilt, and in the rejection letter they explicitly said it was due to lack of experience. It went on to say they would keep my file, stay in touch, and encouraged me to reapply. I was waitlisted at Emory and the other applications have resulted in the offers above. I don't think I had bad essays or interviews per say, but because I only started looking into MBAs around the 26th of December, I only had a few days before I had to submit full applications. This resulted in worse essays than if I had taken my time, but I still think the outcomes have been very encouraging taking circumstances into account. Of course, there is room for improvement though, and having another year will allow me to distill my story and career goals in a way that will make me more competitive.
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Mo2men - Thanks! I agree I've gotten some great feedback here and thank you for contributing to it.

To answer your question regarding what other schools I applied to, the only school I've been rejected by thus far is Vanderbilt, and in the rejection letter they explicitly said it was due to lack of experience. It went on to say they would keep my file, stay in touch, and encouraged me to reapply. I was waitlisted at Emory and the other applications have resulted in the offers above. I don't think I had bad essays or interviews per say, but because I only started looking into MBAs around the 26th of December, I only had a few days before I had to submit full applications. This resulted in worse essays than if I had taken my time, but I still think the outcomes have been very encouraging taking circumstances into account. Of course, there is room for improvement though, and having another year will allow me to distill my story and career goals in a way that will make me more competitive.

With your persistence and spirit, I think you will be great applicant soon. I still say you have great story to tell in the next years.

Keep it up. :-)
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With your persistence and spirit, I think you will be great applicant soon. I still say you have great story to tell in the next years.

Keep it up. :-)

Will do! And thank you for your kind words, I appreciate it :-)
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My 2 cents-

Being a 25 year old who will be matriculating this year, I say- WAIT ON and REAPPLY to R1!

And apply to much better school. One thing that I have realised over the course of my application to schools in the 25-40 bracket is that is that MBA application is not as hard as some people perceive it generally. Studying for the GMAT/GRE is 10x times more arduous.

Apply to Kellogg. Apply to Harvard. Apply to Booth. Apply to MIT. Your alma mater will get attached to you forever. If you are not vehement on to matriculating this year, just apply to better schools in R1 man!

All the best. Let us know the end result.


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Definately Wait. I think your profile with a few more WE would be competitive at many T20 programs.