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So we can use if and would together in a conditional statement?
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So we can use if and would together in a conditional statement?
Oh yes, in fact, very regularly.

Our book EducationAisle Sentence Correction Nirvana discusses Conditional statements, their application and examples in significant detail. If you or someone is interested, PM me your email-id; I can mail the corresponding section.
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So we can use if and would together in a conditional statement?
Oh yes, in fact, very regularly.

Our book EducationAisle Sentence Correction Nirvana discusses Conditional statements, their application and examples in significant detail. If you or someone is interested, PM me your email-id; I can mail the corresponding section.

I have a hardcopy of your book, can you please tell me the page numbers?
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I have a hardcopy of your book, can you please tell me the page numbers?
Thanks for trusting our book, for your GMAT Prep.

Conditional Constructs are covered in Chapter 7 (Tense and Subjunctive) in the sub-section titled "Conditional Constructs".
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Why is which caused correct in option E- Shouldnt it be, causes. My thought process is: It is a fact, and for facts simple present is used. Thanks
Interesting question!

I'd say either tense is fine. You could write that cowpox causes a mild illness, in general. And you could also write that when certain people were infected with cowpox, the infection caused a mild illness, since the infections occurred in the past.

The upshot: if either construction could be justified, move on the other decision points! Fortunately, there are four nice concrete errors in this one, so there's no reason to agonize over the present vs. past tense decision.

I hope that clears things up!
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Easy one.

If (simple past) , then (either simple past if event is fact / habit)
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If (simple past) , then (would +verb) in case of uncertainty.

Also causing in incorrectly used verb-ing modifier.
We need relative pronoun which to refer to
noun cowpox.

if experimental subjects were deliberately infected with cowpox... here the verb is not in simple past tense. So how can we deduce to use If..Then here?
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Easy one.

If (simple past) , then (either simple past if event is fact / habit)
OR
If (simple past) , then (would +verb) in case of uncertainty.

Also causing in incorrectly used verb-ing modifier.
We need relative pronoun which to refer to
noun cowpox.

if experimental subjects were deliberately infected with cowpox... here the verb is not in simple past tense. So how can we deduce to use If..Then here?

Hello AbhiR3,

We hope this finds you well.

To resolve your query, we would like to point out that "were...infected" is indeed a simple past tense verb.

We hope this helps.
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Easy one.

If (simple past) , then (either simple past if event is fact / habit)
OR
If (simple past) , then (would +verb) in case of uncertainty.

Also causing in incorrectly used verb-ing modifier.
We need relative pronoun which to refer to
noun cowpox.

if experimental subjects were deliberately infected with cowpox... here the verb is not in simple past tense. So how can we deduce to use If..Then here?
The verb "were infected" is in fact considered simple past. Note that it's a passive verb: some unknown experimenters infected the subjects with small pox, and the subjects were infected by those experimenters.

Since the experimental subjects were acted on by the verb, we need to use the passive voice. And "was/were + past participle" is the correct form for the passive simple past.

I hope that helps!
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Can you throw some light on options B and D.
Why is ,causing wrong here?
Not able to understand the solutions above.

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Can you throw some light on options B and D.
Why is ,causing wrong here?
Not able to understand the solutions above.

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Hello krndatta,

We hope this finds you well.

Having gone through the question and your query, we believe we can resolve your doubt.

The use of "causing" slightly alters the meaning of the sentence, due to the use of the "comma + present participle ("verb+ing" - "causing" in this case)" construction; please remember, the introduction of the present participle ("verb+ing"- “causing” in this case) after comma generally leads to a cause-effect relationship.

The intended core meaning is that if experimental subjects were deliberately infected with cowpox, they would become immune to smallpox, and as extra information, it is also mentioned that cowpox causes only a mild illness.

The use of the "comma + present participle", however, implies that if experimental subjects were deliberately infected with cowpox, and doing so caused only a mild illness, they would become immune to smallpox.

We hope this helps.
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Can you throw some light on options B and D.
Why is ,causing wrong here?
Not able to understand the solutions above.
Hi krndatta, "present participial" phrase (causing...in this case) preceded by a comma, generally modifies the subject of the preceding clause.

In this case, the subject of the preceding clause is experimental subjects. Hence, B and D convey the sub-optimal meaning that experimental subjects caused only a mild illness (while as per the intended meaning, "cowpox" caused only a mild illness).

Following construct would be better (though would slightly change the meaning):

if cowpox were deliberately injected into experimental subjects, causing only a mild illness...

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In option D, Can't we consider, "causing only a mild illness" in between 2 commas and as a non-essential modifier modifying cowpox? In such a case the error that it modifies preceding clause will not hold true. What is the flaw in my undertstanding?
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In option D, Can't we consider, "causing only a mild illness" in between 2 commas and as a non-essential modifier modifying cowpox? In such a case the error that it modifies preceding clause will not hold true. What is the flaw in my undertstanding?

Verb-ing after a comma at the end of the clause modifies the entire previous clause. Hence, we cannot consider that it is modifying just cowpox.
Besides, the non underlined part is using the second conditional (past tense in 'if' clause) so we should use 'would' in 'then' clause.

Also, 'immune to' and 'immune from' are normally used in different contexts (though this wouldn't be the deciding factor):
immune to a disease - not susceptible
immune from punishment - exempt

Answer (E)
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In option D, Can't we consider, "causing only a mild illness" in between 2 commas and as a non-essential modifier modifying cowpox? In such a case the error that it modifies preceding clause will not hold true. What is the flaw in my undertstanding?

Hello waytowharton,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, in Option D, the phrase "causing only a mild illness" follows the "Comma + Present Participle ("verb+ing" - "causing" in this sentence)" construction, so it modifies not the preceding noun, but the entire preceding clause, typically conveying a cause-effect meaning.

Thus, even if we take it as extra information, this phrase changes the sentence's intended meaning.

We hope this helps.
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Hi,

I rejected the choice E because it uses "which caused" which I thought is incorrect because Cowpox causes mild illness should be the correct as it is stating a fact and general information here, hence, shouldn't it be using present tense to state facts or general information which is always true. In that sense, how is the use of past tense correct here? Also, if the use of past tense is correct, then in what all scenarios is the use of past tense is correct for facts or general information?

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I rejected the choice E because it uses "which caused" which I thought is incorrect because Cowpox causes mild illness should be the correct as it is stating a fact and general information here, hence, shouldn't it be using present tense to state facts or general information which is always true. In that sense, how is the use of past tense correct here? Also, if the use of past tense is correct, then in what all scenarios is the use of past tense is correct for facts or general information?

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The sentence is talking about some research or experimentation that happened in the past -- and the cowpox mentioned in the sentence is the specific cowpox that was injected in subjects during that experimentation in the past. And when did that specific cowpox cause mild illness in those subjects? In the past. So the past tense ("caused") is completely reasonable here.

Unfortunately there aren't any clear-cut "rules" for this sort of thing. You just have to do your best to think about meaning and decide whether the meaning is logical -- if you aren't sure, look for other decision points.

For more on verb tenses, check out this old video or this newer one.

I hope that helps!
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The English physician Edward Jenner found that if experimental subjects were deliberately infected with cowpox, which caused only a mild illness, they are immune from smallpox.

(A) which caused only a mild illness, they are immune from
(B) causing only a mild illness, they become immune from
(C) which causes only a mild illness, they are immune to
(D) causing only a mild illness, they became immune from
(E) which caused only a mild illness, they would become immune to

If are, then will
if were, then would. Select E
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