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The number of people present at each level, except the topmost, of a pyramid is twice the number present just one level above. What’s the probability that Mr. X and Mr. Y, standing somewhere on the pyramid, are fewer than three levels apart? (1) The pyramid has 5 levels. (2) There are fewer than 50 people on the pyramid. Kudos for correct solutions.
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PrepTap wrote: The number of people present at each level, except the topmost, of a pyramid is twice the number present just one level above. What’s the probability that Mr. X and Mr. Y, standing somewhere on the pyramid, are fewer than three levels apart?
(1) The pyramid has 5 levels. (2) There are fewer than 50 people on the pyramid.
The OA will be revealed on Friday, 5th Jun. Kudos for correct solutions. Statement 1: The pyramid has 5 levels.Let's take a case
Level 1: 1 person Level 2: 2 persons Level 3: 4 persons Level 4: 8 persons Level 5: 16 personsLet's take a Second case
Level 1: 2 person Level 2: 4 persons Level 3: 8 persons Level 4: 16 persons Level 5: 32 personsThe probability in the two cases will be different because in Case 1 x and y can NOT be at the same level at Level 1 whereas in Case 2 x and y can be at the same level at Level 1 Hence NOT SUFFICIENTStatement 2: There are fewer than 50 people on the pyramid.Let's take a case with 3 LEVELS
Level 1: 1 person Level 2: 2 persons Level 3: 4 personsLet's take a Second case with 5 LEVELS
Level 1: 2 person Level 2: 4 persons Level 3: 8 persons Level 4: 16 persons Level 5: 32 personsThe probability in the two cases will be different because in Case 1 x and y can NOT be separated by more than 2 levels hence required probability=1 in Case 2 x and y can be separated by more than 3 levels hence required probability is not equal to 1 Hence NOT SUFFICIENTCombining the two Statements:We get only one Case Possible with 5 LEVELS and fewer than 50 people Level 1: 1 person Level 2: 2 persons Level 3: 4 persons Level 4: 8 persons Level 5: 16 personsHence, SUFFICIENT to calculate the required probability Answer: Option Please Note: We don't have to solve the question till end in Data sufficient because the value of probability doesn't matter the UNIQUENESS and CONSISTENCY of SOlution matter hence we conclude that the two statements together are sufficient to solve the question
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GMATinsight wrote: PrepTap wrote: The number of people present at each level, except the topmost, of a pyramid is twice the number present just one level above. What’s the probability that Mr. X and Mr. Y, standing somewhere on the pyramid, are fewer than three levels apart?
(1) The pyramid has 5 levels. (2) There are fewer than 50 people on the pyramid.
The OA will be revealed on Friday, 5th Jun. Kudos for correct solutions. Statement 1: The pyramid has 5 levels.Let's take a case
Level 1: 1 person Level 2: 2 persons Level 3: 4 persons Level 4: 8 persons Level 5: 16 personsLet's take a Second case
Level 1: 2 person Level 2: 4 persons Level 3: 8 persons Level 4: 16 persons Level 5: 32 personsThe probability in the two cases will be different because in Case 1 x and y can NOT be at the same level at Level 1 whereas in Case 2 x and y can be at the same level at Level 1 Hence NOT SUFFICIENTStatement 2: There are fewer than 50 people on the pyramid.Let's take a case with 3 LEVELS
Level 1: 1 person Level 2: 2 persons Level 3: 4 personsLet's take a Second case with 5 LEVELS
Level 1: 2 person Level 2: 4 persons Level 3: 8 persons Level 4: 16 persons Level 5: 32 personsThe probability in the two cases will be different because in Case 1 x and y can NOT be separated by more than 2 levels hence required probability=1 in Case 2 x and y can be separated by more than 3 levels hence required probability is not equal to 1 Hence NOT SUFFICIENTCombining the two Statements:We get only one Case Possible with 5 LEVELS and fewer than 50 people Level 1: 1 person Level 2: 2 persons Level 3: 4 persons Level 4: 8 persons Level 5: 16 personsHence, SUFFICIENT to calculate the required probability Answer: Option Please Note: We don't have to solve the question till end in Data sufficient because the value of probability doesn't matter the UNIQUENESS and CONSISTENCY of SOlution matter hence we conclude that the two statements together are sufficient to solve the questionbut the condition of number of members at one level to be twice the number in the next level doesn't hold for the last level. Why have you applied the same condition in the 5th level in your example?



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The question doesn't make sense, for two reasons. First, if X and Y are in the pyramid already, they're either less than 3 floors apart or they're not. A priori, the answer has to be either 0 or 1. To ask a probability question here is like asking "What is the probability that New York and Chicago are more than 600 miles apart?" But even if the question tells us they are going to be randomly assigned to floors, it still doesn't make sense to ask a probability question like this as a DS question, because there's no way to know what information should be considered sufficient to answer it. If I invent a simpler question to illustrate: Employees A and B will be assigned to different random floors in a 3storey office building. What is the probability they will be on adjacent floors? 1. A will be assigned to the topmost floor 2. B will not be assigned to the bottom floor This question makes no sense as a DS question. From the stem alone, using no statements at all, we can calculate the probability they will be on adjacent floors (the answer is 2/3, because each of the three floors is equally likely to be the empty floor, and they are only not adjacent if the middle floor is empty). Then using Statement 1 alone, we have more information, so we can make a better calculation of the the probability (the answer is 1/2, because there are two floors left, one of which is adjacent to the top floor). But using Statement 2 alone, we can also calculate the probability (the answer is 3/4, which one can work out by considering the two possible cases). But then if we use both statements, we have even more information and can make an even better calculation of the probability (the answer is 1, because they must be adjacent). So is the answer A, B, C, or D? It's impossible to guess, because there's no way to tell what information we should consider sufficient to answer a question like this. A DS question simply cannot be posed this way.
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Yogita25 wrote: GMATinsight wrote: The number of people present at each level, except the topmost, of a pyramid is twice the number present just one level above. What’s the probability that Mr. X and Mr. Y, standing somewhere on the pyramid, are fewer than three levels apart? (1) The pyramid has 5 levels. (2) There are fewer than 50 people on the pyramid. The OA will be revealed on Friday, 5th Jun. Kudos for correct solutions.Combining the two Statements:We get only one Case Possible with 5 LEVELS and fewer than 50 people Level 1: 1 person Level 2: 2 persons Level 3: 4 persons Level 4: 8 persons Level 5: 16 personsHence, SUFFICIENT to calculate the required probability Answer: Option but the condition of number of members at one level to be twice the number in the next level doesn't hold for the last level. Why have you applied the same condition in the 5th level in your example? Hi Yogita25, The Question has mentioned that The number of people present at each level, except the topmost, of a pyramid is twice the number present just one level above.So the only level that is exempted from this condition is level 1 because there is no level above it. Level 5 is following the rule as the Number of members in level5 is 16 which is twice the number of members in level4 i.e. 8 members and level4 is right one level above level5. So I don't see the ambiguity that you are reflecting in your comment.
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GMATinsight wrote: Yogita25 wrote: GMATinsight wrote: The number of people present at each level, except the topmost, of a pyramid is twice the number present just one level above. What’s the probability that Mr. X and Mr. Y, standing somewhere on the pyramid, are fewer than three levels apart? (1) The pyramid has 5 levels. (2) There are fewer than 50 people on the pyramid. The OA will be revealed on Friday, 5th Jun. Kudos for correct solutions.Combining the two Statements:We get only one Case Possible with 5 LEVELS and fewer than 50 people Level 1: 1 person Level 2: 2 persons Level 3: 4 persons Level 4: 8 persons Level 5: 16 personsHence, SUFFICIENT to calculate the required probability Answer: Option but the condition of number of members at one level to be twice the number in the next level doesn't hold for the last level. Why have you applied the same condition in the 5th level in your example? Hi Yogita25, The Question has mentioned that The number of people present at each level, except the topmost, of a pyramid is twice the number present just one level above.So the only level that is exempted from this condition is level 1 because there is no level above it. Level 5 is following the rule as the Number of members in level5 is 16 which is twice the number of members in level4 i.e. 8 members and level4 is right one level above level5. So I don't see the ambiguity that you are reflecting in your comment. Thanks for the explanation. I got the point.



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I don't understand this. Even if you get this unique set 1 2 4 8 16
How is it that the probability of X at level 1 and Y at level 2 equal to probability of X at level 1 and Y at level 3. Since there are more than 1 solution possible for this question the answer should be E. Even after combining two you don't have a unique solution
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