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The reasons for yesterday's sharp rise in the stock market were much the same as that behind last week's rally: a surge in the economy to a 5.6% annual growth rate and improved corporate earnings balanced by the lack of signs of inflationary pressure.
A. that
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C. what was
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While comparing using "As", don't we need a clause followed by "as"? Here, according to OA, it doesn't seem like a clause preceded with "As".

Can you please help me understand whether there is a gap in my understanding of the concept as a whole or of the problem at hand?


You seem to be confused between two different usages of "as".

For comparing, "as" can be used either as a conjunction or as a preposition.

"As" as a conjunction: In this case the comparison is made between two clauses.
I am sick as you are.

"As" as a preposition: In this case two nouns are compared (generally in the idiomatic form X same as Y)
The reasons that.... are same as those.... option B - "reasons" compared with "those" ("reasons").
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The reasons for yesterday's sharp rise in the stock market were much the same as that behind last week's rally: a surge in the economy to a 5.6% annual growth rate and improved corporate earnings balanced by the lack of signs of inflationary pressure.

A. that
Wrong. Not parallel. The intended meaning is that "the reasons (plural) for X were much the same as "those" (the reasons) behind Y.

B. those
Correct. The reasons || those ("those" refers to "the reasons")

C. what was
Wrong. "the reasons for X" and "what was behind Y" are not parallel.

D. for that
Wrong.
- "for" is redundant. The correct structure is: the reasons (plural) for X were much the same as forthose behind Y
- "that" <== singular. Wrong.

E. they were
Wrong.
- Pronoun problem: if you use "they", you repeat the same subject "the reasons for yesterday's sharp rise in the stock market" <== That's wrong, because "the reasons for X" and "the reasons behind Y" are different. (You only use "they" if you repeat the same subject)
- Parallelism problem: "The reasons for X" and "they were" are not parallel. Technically, the noun phrases before and after "were much the same" - comparative phrase - must parallel.

Hope it helps.
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B for me

Reasons are plural, so we need "those"

E IMO has a concision problem... you can put "those" and make it crisp and clear with 1 word
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The reasons for yesterday's sharp rise in the stock market were much the same as that behind last week's rally: a surge in the economy to a 5.6% annual growth rate and improved corporate earnings balanced by the lack of signs of inflationary pressure.
A. that
B. those
C. what was
D. for that
E. they wre


the same has two meaning, to refer to the same thing or to refer to like thing. each meaning has different usage. look at the dictionary to see
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While comparing using "As", don't we need a clause followed by "as"? Here, according to OA, it doesn't seem like a clause preceded with "As".

Can you please help me understand whether there is a gap in my understanding of the concept as a whole or of the problem at hand?
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Cannot understand why E is wrong. Plz explain..
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foolbox wrote:
The reasons for yesterday's sharp rise in the stock market were much the same as that behind last week's rally: a surge in the economy to a 5.6% annual growth rate and improved corporate earnings balanced by the lack of signs of inflationary pressure.
A. that
B. those
C. what was
D. for that
E. they wre



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AnotherGmater wrote:
While comparing using "As", don't we need a clause followed by "as"? Here, according to OA, it doesn't seem like a clause preceded with "As".

Can you please help me understand whether there is a gap in my understanding of the concept as a whole or of the problem at hand?


You seem to be confused between two different usages of "as".

For comparing, "as" can be used either as a conjunction or as a preposition.

"As" as a conjunction: In this case the comparison is made between two clauses.
I am sick as you are.

"As" as a preposition: In this case two nouns are compared (generally in the idiomatic form X same as Y)
The reasons that.... are same as those.... option B - "reasons" compared with "those" ("reasons").


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Could some expert please explain why B is correct even though it's missing a clause after "as"? I believe that "as" is always followed by a clause when we're doing a comparison, as mentioned in egmat 's article (https://gmatclub.com/forum/as-vs-like-c ... 33950.html). B just has a noun (i.e. those) and doesn't have a verb. I believe that when AS is used for comparison, verb is not allowed to be omitted (i.e. ellipsis), so AS should always be followed by a Noun + Verb. Is that correct?

From sayantanc2k 's post, I see that there's an idiom usage here: "X same as Y". I believe we're allowed ellipsis in Y only for that idiom but we can't have ellipsis whenever "as" is being used for comparison in other cases?


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B. those
Correct. The reasons || those ("those" refers to "the reasons")

E. they were
Wrong.
- Pronoun problem: if you use "they", you repeat the same subject "the reasons for yesterday's sharp rise in the stock market" <== That's wrong, because "the reasons for X" and "the reasons behind Y" are different. (You only use "they" if you repeat the same subject)
- Parallelism problem: "The reasons for X" and "they were" are not parallel. Technically, the noun phrases before and after "were much the same" - comparative phrase - must parallel.

Hope it helps.


When we use pronouns, do they refer to just the noun or "noun+noun modifier" if the noun is followed by a modifier? For example, in E, would "they" be referring to "reasons" or "reasons for yesterday's sharp rise in the stock market"?

I know we use "those" for a new copy. Since the original sentence says "much the same", would the usage of "they" (i.e. used to refer to same copy) be incorrect?

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Please explain why is E wrong?
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Please explain why is E wrong?

Just providing my ideas,
there are some idiomatic usage of AS which I think we should memorize.
I just copy them from MGMAT SC book.
1- X Acts As Y
2- X is the Same As Y
3- As X,So Y
4- Such As Y (example)
5- Think Of X As Y
6- View X As Y
7- Regard X As Y
In all of the above structures, X and Y should be parallel (logically & grammatically). In this specific question, structure number 2 has been used.
In this question, X is "The reasons for yesterday's sharp rise in the stock market" which is a noun phrase.
and Y should be another noun to be parallel with it.
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"As" as a preposition: In this case two nouns are compared (generally in the idiomatic form X same as Y)
“The reasons that.... are same as those....” option B - "reasons" compared with "those" ("reasons").
Hence, B is the answer.
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