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goodbyeboy
This has been a hot issue for a long time for schools especially in California. Many undergrad schools flat out admitted that they limit the admission pool for Asian students and look more fondly upon not-too-common applicants from European countries and other minority applicants.
It's upsetting for Asian tiger moms and students who worked their ass off to get their stuff to the top academically, and I understand where they come from. However, it makes sense for schools - they have to diversify their student bodies as much as possible. I personally wouldn't want to attend a school with a lack of diversity. Diversity is part of valuable MBA experience and I wouldn't trade it with anything. I wanna be in all-you-can eat buffet with all kind of meals from all over the world with $80000 receipt.
Also, if we look at the population of two countries - China and India, It really makes sense. Together they have about 4 billion people. More people = more candidates = more competitions. Then there's a language barrier, visa issue, employment etc etc.....schools don't want to deal with problems. They want students to get jobs and be successful. It also has to do with school's employment placement and rate. So many things come into play.
It might be unfair for Chinese/Indian applicants. But if they truly want their MBA and know exactly why they want them, and know how to articulate that on essays, they'll overcome that hurdle. Once the overcome that, they will be extremely valuable MBA candidates. No excuses necessary.
I think diversity is awesome. However, what exactly is diversity? Is diversity defined by the color of someone’s skin? Or is it defined by the new knowledge or experiences that one bring to the table? Are people with similar Western upbringing from different countries bringing true diversity in the increasingly global business environment? I, having the Western culture, appreciate the refreshing perspectives my Asian classmates bring forth. If business school truly cared about diversity, they would try to integrate the various groups more. Instead, if you walk into a business school, you will see the Europeans hanging out with Europeans, the Blonds hanging out with Blonds, etc.
The fact is Asians (including Indians) are under-represented by most measures - % total world population, % GDP, etc. The URM argument simply doesn’t hold, because of the URM are from populations so small, that statistically, there shouldn’t be that many to begin with. It comes down to flat discrimination. Someone has to stand up and fight for the injustice. If MLK or Gandhi, just sat back and accepted the status quo, making excuses for why things are the way it is, nothing would have changed.
Furthermore, the Asian countries are on the rise, where as some of the other regions are stagnant. In business school, we are taught to anticipate and adapt to change. However, they don’t seem to put that into practice. It would make senses to educate the future business leaders of the world. This is an opportunity that few schools capitalize on for the short term fear of drop in rankings due to lower employment stats. It also provides opportunity for schools like ISB and CEIBS to rise, and, potentially, reshape business education as we know it. Disruptive innovation does not come from the entrenched industries, but rather from new sources. I hope these schools will help make the business world better.
I think you're getting confused with diverse environment vs diverse people. Here's the ultimate truth. Wherever you go, some blondes will only hang with blondes, some asians will only hang with asians, and some blacks will only hang with blacks. That won't change no matter how much school tries to integrate Asians or Indians, or other minorities into play. It's those who go out of their comfort zone to learn and appreciate new cultures that benefit from the diversity.
The truth is that school IS integrating Asians and Indians and others into play as much as possible. The problem is that there are simply so many overqualified (ironically at the same time, under qualified) candidates who fall into extremely similar categories. Asians from top tier undergrad with almost perfect GPA, raised by tiger moms who trained their kids to always be on top when it comes to school. Then there are Indian candidates from IT field, really high GMAT scores etc - you get the picture.
I don't know how much refreshing perspectives you got from how many Asian students. However I don't think it's safe for you to assume that those from such geographical backgrounds will bring the same value to the table as you expect. I can't speak from Indian perspective but I'll speak from Asian perspective. In Asia, literally all students are forced by their tiger moms to study 15 hours a day to excel in school, get good grades, excel in exams, attend good colleges etc. Sure their academic profile may be great in the end, with helps of mandatory community services and forced extra curricular activities. However, they sacrifice bigger things meanwhile - leadership skills, communication skills, people skills, logical and critical thinking, how to stand with their own feet. ALL OF THEM, crucial for successful MBA candidates. I don't care how much more integration you think business schools should bring, but I certainly don't wanna study with students without those values.
As I said, there will always be exceptions, and they're the ones who will survive from that competition and get offers from the schools. Ones who didn't forget what's truly important in the world of business, and ones that can plan and attack well their goals and plans on essays and interviews. It certainly is disadvantage for certain demographics, but is this a flat discrimination? Absolutely not.
This has nothing to do with bringing justice to the school. No MLK or Gandhi - NO. You're taking this too far and comparing this to things that are simply incomparable. You have to look at this from an inside perspective and know why this is happening at the first place, and no offense, but I don't think you have enough knowledge or experience with diversity to make such assertions.