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Another reason why A will strengthen Marco's assessment is that it strengthens the argument that high aridity does not cause KG's extinction, since KG extinct in the period that is less arid than prior periods.
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How is A true for Marco?
it actually undermines Marco's argument.
1. Marco says Kangaroos fed mainly on shrubs. 2. Shrubs feel fine when climate is arid. 3. Climate was getting more arid when GK went extinct.
Option A says THE OPPOSITE: the climate was getting LESS arid at the time kangaroos went extinct.
This totally ruins Marco's point. It might mean, shrubs became less available during that time, and the GK actually died out from hunger.

I'd like to hear your thoughts!

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Hi aakash214. Thanks for posting this here.

I came across this question on GMAT Prep took and took a long time struggling with it before figuring it out. It is definitely one of the harder ones I have come across!

Firstly let's list down what each of them is saying:

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Marco: Giant kangaroos - one of several extinct species of large mammals (megafauna) - went extinct around 46,000 years ago. The deposits and wear patterns on the teeth of these animals from around the time of their extinction indicate that they fed mostly on saltbrush shrubs. Saltbrush thrives in arid climates, so it is not likely that the kangaroos' food supply was adversely affected by the increasing aridity of the climate at that time. Thus, something else would have to account for their extinction, and the best candidate for that cause is predation by humans.
  • GKs are one of many species of large mammals
  • Went extinct 46,000 years ago
  • Evidence from from teeth show they fed mostly on saltbrush
  • Saltbrush thrives in arid climates
  • We know climate was becoming more arid at the time
  • The aridity will help heir main food thrive
  • The aridity should in fact help the species thrive, because their main food source will thrive NOT make them extinct
  • Hence if it wasn't the climate it HAD to be something else and humans are the most likely.

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Fatima: That argument alone is not likely to satisfy many researchers in this field. Have you found any other evidence to bolster your conclusion ?
  • This argument alone is not enough to convince researchers of your conclusion
  • Is there any other evidence you have to support your claim?

So Marco lists down a bunch of facts about GKs, their habitats and the climate of the time they lived and concludes that increasing aridity of the time means that external factors such as humans were responsible for GK's extinction. Fatima is largely skeptical of the tall claims and asks for more evidence.

Questions asks: Select Marco for the statement that, if true, most justifies Marco’s assertions, and select Fatima, for the statement that, if true, most justifies Fatima’s skepticism about Marco’s assertions. Make only two selections, one in each column.

So we are looking for facts that SUPPORT Marco's and Fatima's assertions (one option each), choices are:

Quote:
A) Giant kangaroos became extinct during a period that was less arid than previous periods they endured.
Yes! Marco does note that the climate, at the time the GKs went extinct, was becoming increasingly arid and dry. It was not the main crux of the arguement but was part of the evidence used to support the conclusion for sure. Lets hold on to this for now as a candidate supporting Marco's assertion.
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B)Many researchers believe humans first arrived in Australia around 40,000 years ago.
This is a perfect candidate for a fact that supports Fatima's skepticism, if humans arrived only 40 thousand years ago they could not possibly have been the cause of GK extinction 46 thousand years ago! Seems like a good match for Fatima!
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C)Approximately 60 different species in Australia died out in the wave of extinctions around 46,000 years ago.
Does not help support either of the people's arguments.
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D)Fossils of giant kangaroos also show evidence that those animals' diets routinely included plants other than saltbrush.
This is actually irrelevant to what Marco has to say, simply because Marco says that their main diet saltbrush was in ample supply and only becoming more widely available due to the increasing aridity of the climate. If GKs did indeed eat something else as well, it really does not support Marco because he has already concluded based on available evidence that their main food source was in ample supply.
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E)Several types of megafauna larger than the giant kangaroo went extinct around 46,000 years ago.
Extinction of other larger megafauna are not relevant to either of their discussions.

You will see that once you rule out the improbable and unrelated choices only A and B match with Marco's and Fatima's assertions respectively.

Hope this helps. I can't say for sure but this seems like one of the harder IR Qs. I got it wrong too when I was taking the practice test myself.
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I am not one of the experts and tbh, I have a similar concern as you do so I will try my best to play devil's advocate on why A justifies Marco's statement :tongue_opt3 :
1. Notice the premise "the increasing aridity of the climate at the time" here, it is a premise so we should treat it as factual information. That means at that time, the shrub should increase even if the number of shrubs available is less than before (due to statement A shows less arid weather than previous periods). So GK's food supply will not be adversely affected
2. If we think of the Marco argument that High Aridity does not cause GK's extinction (since High Aridity = Plenty of food) then A makes sense because GK survived even more arid periods.

Would love to hear from the experts AjiteshArun AndrewN GMATNinja on whether my rationale is sound!


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How is A true for Marco?
it actually undermines Marco's argument.
1. Marco says Kangaroos fed mainly on shrubs. 2. Shrubs feel fine when climate is arid. 3. Climate was getting more arid when GK went extinct.
Option A says THE OPPOSITE: the climate was getting LESS arid at the time kangaroos went extinct.
This totally ruins Marco's point. It might mean, shrubs became less available during that time, and the GK actually died out from hunger.

I'd like to hear your thoughts!

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Hi aakash214. Thanks for posting this here.

I came across this question on GMAT Prep took and took a long time struggling with it before figuring it out. It is definitely one of the harder ones I have come across!

Firstly let's list down what each of them is saying:

Quote:
Marco: Giant kangaroos - one of several extinct species of large mammals (megafauna) - went extinct around 46,000 years ago. The deposits and wear patterns on the teeth of these animals from around the time of their extinction indicate that they fed mostly on saltbrush shrubs. Saltbrush thrives in arid climates, so it is not likely that the kangaroos' food supply was adversely affected by the increasing aridity of the climate at that time. Thus, something else would have to account for their extinction, and the best candidate for that cause is predation by humans.
  • GKs are one of many species of large mammals
  • Went extinct 46,000 years ago
  • Evidence from from teeth show they fed mostly on saltbrush
  • Saltbrush thrives in arid climates
  • We know climate was becoming more arid at the time
  • The aridity will help heir main food thrive
  • The aridity should in fact help the species thrive, because their main food source will thrive NOT make them extinct
  • Hence if it wasn't the climate it HAD to be something else and humans are the most likely.

Quote:
Fatima: That argument alone is not likely to satisfy many researchers in this field. Have you found any other evidence to bolster your conclusion ?
  • This argument alone is not enough to convince researchers of your conclusion
  • Is there any other evidence you have to support your claim?

So Marco lists down a bunch of facts about GKs, their habitats and the climate of the time they lived and concludes that increasing aridity of the time means that external factors such as humans were responsible for GK's extinction. Fatima is largely skeptical of the tall claims and asks for more evidence.

Questions asks: Select Marco for the statement that, if true, most justifies Marco’s assertions, and select Fatima, for the statement that, if true, most justifies Fatima’s skepticism about Marco’s assertions. Make only two selections, one in each column.

So we are looking for facts that SUPPORT Marco's and Fatima's assertions (one option each), choices are:

Quote:
A) Giant kangaroos became extinct during a period that was less arid than previous periods they endured.
Yes! Marco does note that the climate, at the time the GKs went extinct, was becoming increasingly arid and dry. It was not the main crux of the arguement but was part of the evidence used to support the conclusion for sure. Lets hold on to this for now as a candidate supporting Marco's assertion.
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B)Many researchers believe humans first arrived in Australia around 40,000 years ago.
This is a perfect candidate for a fact that supports Fatima's skepticism, if humans arrived only 40 thousand years ago they could not possibly have been the cause of GK extinction 46 thousand years ago! Seems like a good match for Fatima!
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C)Approximately 60 different species in Australia died out in the wave of extinctions around 46,000 years ago.
Does not help support either of the people's arguments.
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D)Fossils of giant kangaroos also show evidence that those animals' diets routinely included plants other than saltbrush.
This is actually irrelevant to what Marco has to say, simply because Marco says that their main diet saltbrush was in ample supply and only becoming more widely available due to the increasing aridity of the climate. If GKs did indeed eat something else as well, it really does not support Marco because he has already concluded based on available evidence that their main food source was in ample supply.
Quote:
E)Several types of megafauna larger than the giant kangaroo went extinct around 46,000 years ago.
Extinction of other larger megafauna are not relevant to either of their discussions.

You will see that once you rule out the improbable and unrelated choices only A and B match with Marco's and Fatima's assertions respectively.

Hope this helps. I can't say for sure but this seems like one of the harder IR Qs. I got it wrong too when I was taking the practice test myself.
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I am not one of the experts and tbh, I have a similar concern as you do so I will try my best to play devil's advocate on why A justifies Marco's statement :tongue_opt3 :
1. Notice the premise "the increasing aridity of the climate at the time" here, it is a premise so we should treat it as factual information. That means at that time, the shrub should increase even if the number of shrubs available is less than before (due to statement A shows less arid weather than previous periods). So GK's food supply will not be adversely affected
2. If we think of the Marco argument that High Aridity does not cause GK's extinction (since High Aridity = Plenty of food) then A makes sense because GK survived even more arid periods.

Would love to hear from the experts AjiteshArun AndrewN GMATNinja on whether my rationale is sound!
I agree, nhatanh811. The notion behind (A) is that less arid cannot be equated to not arid at all, and the primary food source of the giant kangaroos, saltbrush shrubs, could have endured well enough in less arid climates. Point 1 is to be taken as a true statement in assessing the argument Marco puts forth. Altogether, we can picture a V-shaped graph of aridity, perhaps, one in which each tip of the V represents maximum aridity, and the valley represents the least arid climate the giant kangaroos may have endured. If the timeline of the graph proceeded from left to right, then say that the kangaroos died in the middle of the right-hand side of that V. Both the premise from the passage and the answer choice given here could still hold true: the kangaroos had endured more arid periods in the past, but there was also an increasing aridity at the time of their extinction.

I think the process of elimination can help considerably here, since we know there can only be one choice for each person. (B) is easy to identify with Fatima. Meanwhile, (C) and (E) pursue a similar line of thought: other animals went extinct around the same time as the giant kangaroos; if there is nothing to separate the answers, then neither can be correct. Choice (D) does touch on the food supply, but it backs the idea that other plants, not the one Marco has built his argument upon, may have allowed the kangaroos to survive. Thus, it cannot support the assertions Marco has made. This is GMAT™ linear logic at its best.

I hope that helps. Thank you for bringing me into the dialogue.

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I must say... Horrid question :lol:

I see why A is the correct answer for Marco but the question does imply that Saltbrush "thrives" in arid climates with no evidence that it survives in less arid climates... Moreover, answer D states that there would be additional sources of food, therefore, supporting Marco's reasoning that there was an alternative cause for the Giant Kangaroo's extinction. This indirectly supports the argument that Giant Kangaroos did not die of starvation, therefore, increasing the chances that an alternative argument would be correct.

This would boost Marco's argument. Sorry GMAC, you're wrong.
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Marco: Giant kangaroos - one of several extinct species of large mammals (megafauna) - went extinct around 46,000 years ago. The deposits and wear patterns on the teeth of these animals from around the time of their extinction indicate that they fed mostly on saltbrush shrubs. Saltbrush thrives in arid climates, so it is not likely that the kangaroos' food supply was adversely affected by the increasing aridity of the climate at that time. Thus, something else would have to account for their extinction, and the best candidate for that cause is predation by humans.

Fatima: That argument alone is not likely to satisfy many researchers in this field. Have you found any other evidence to bolster your conclusion?
Select Marco for the statement that, if true, most justifies Marco's assertions, and select Fatima, for the statement that, if true, most justifies Fatima's skepticism about Marco's assertions.

Make only two selections, one in each column.
Marco - 
Giant kangaroos  went extinct in Australia around 46,000 years ago.
Their teeth, from around the time of their extinction, indicate that they fed mostly on saltbrush shrubs.
Saltbrush thrives in arid climates, so increasingly arid climate would have suited it.
Conclusion: Something else would have to account for their extinction, and the best candidate for that cause is predation by humans.

Fatima -
That argument alone is not likely to satisfy many researchers in this field. Have you found any other evidence to bolster your conclusion?

Basically Fatima is saying that I don't agree with your conlcusion. 

Look at the options now and notice that options (C) and (E) are the same. 

Approximately 60 different species in Australia died out in the wave of extinctions around 46,000 years ago.
Several types of megafauna larger than the giant kangaroo went extinct around 46,000 years ago.


They both are saying that several other species also went extinct at that time. Do we need to worry about whether there is some connect such as "Food source then may not have been the problem but something more large scale etc.?" No. Because both options say the same thing so neither can be the answer. 

Giant kangaroos became extinct during a period that was less arid than previous periods they endured.

This strengthens Marco's conclusion that food scarcity was not the problem. That increasingly arid climate did not cause food scarcity. The kangaroos survived more arid periods in the past so why would this be any different. The cause must be something else. 
MARCO - ANSWER

Many researchers believe humans first arrived in Australia around 40,000 years ago.

If this is true, then humans could not have been the reason for the extinction. 
This is against Marco's view and hence supports Fatima.
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Fossils of giant kangaroos also show evidence that those animals' diets routinely included plants other than saltbrush.

Irrelevant. Perhaps they did include other plants. But what we know is that "Their teeth, from around the time of their extinction, indicate that they fed mostly on saltbrush shrubs." Around the time of their extinction, they fed on saltbrush shrubs only and those were plenty. So then they shouldn't have died out. What they fed on at other times is irrelevant. 
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Marco: Giant kangaroos—one of several extinct species of large mammals (megafauna)—went extinct in Australia around 46,000 years ago. The deposits and wear patterns on the teeth of these animals from around the time of their extinction indicate that they fed mostly on saltbrush shrubs. Saltbrush thrives in arid climates, so it is not likely that the kangaroos’ food supply was adversely affected by the increasing aridity of the climate at the time. Thus, something else would have to account for their extinction, and the best candidate for that cause is predation by humans.

GK fed on SS and SS thrive in arid climate.
More arid --> more food --> thriving KG
Less Arid --> Less Food --> Not so thriving KG [Can we say this?] from the information given?

Option A: Giant kangaroos became extinct during a period that was less arid than previous periods they endured.
This means KG's thrived through the periods in which Food was less. so in the given period of extinction, their food supply was better than the past few less arid periods,
Thus supports the Argument that Food (SS) is not the cause and something else happened.
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You are wrong here when you say " Giant kangaroos became extinct during a period that was less arid than previous periods they endured.
This means KG's thrived through the periods in which Food was less".

Since Kangaroos became extinct in a lesser arid period, they survived previous more arid periods, and since more aridity implies more food (as you also stated), this means KG's previously trived through the periods in which Food was more". This is why I agree that option A goes against Marco's assertion that food scarcity was not the reason behind their extinction.

I would rather argue that option D justifies Marco's assertion that KG fed mostly on saltbrush, and hence proof of inclusion of plants other than saltbrush in their diet does provide evidence of/justify this assertion.
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Marco: Giant kangaroos—one of several extinct species of large mammals (megafauna)—went extinct in Australia around 46,000 years ago. The deposits and wear patterns on the teeth of these animals from around the time of their extinction indicate that they fed mostly on saltbrush shrubs. Saltbrush thrives in arid climates, so it is not likely that the kangaroos’ food supply was adversely affected by the increasing aridity of the climate at the time. Thus, something else would have to account for their extinction, and the best candidate for that cause is predation by humans.

GK fed on SS and SS thrive in arid climate.
More arid --> more food --> thriving KG
Less Arid --> Less Food --> Not so thriving KG [Can we say this?] from the information given?

Option A: Giant kangaroos became extinct during a period that was less arid than previous periods they endured.
This means KG's thrived through the periods in which Food was less. so in the given period of extinction, their food supply was better than the past few less arid periods,
Thus supports the Argument that Food (SS) is not the cause and something else happened.
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