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She shared the essay as well. I think there were other aspects which helped her candidature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQQIlZBTQGg
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The girl’s case on the otherhand was very surprising though - especially her confidence that she even made a youtube video out of it :D :D
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It shouldn’t be surprising...cox the entire application is reviewed holistically. The GMAT/GRE is just one tiny piece of the whole picture.
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What it is is what it is. We can’t do much and wait to hear from these schools.
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It shouldn’t be surprising...cox the entire application is reviewed holistically. The GMAT/GRE is just one tiny piece of the whole picture.
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well apparently not always - The GMAT (yes the GMAT alone) is the make or break deal now for these schools - otherwise GRE also isn’t properly considered ( as it doesn’t help with the rankings)
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they do consider GRE for ranking as well. https://www.usnews.com/education/best-g ... ethodology
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they do consider GRE for ranking as well. https://www.usnews.com/education/best-g ... ethodology
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no they don’t. These articles are literally lollipops for any willing to believe that GRE is also as valued as the GMAT. GRE is strictly used to ascertain whether a candidate can cope up with the academia - that’s it. If you get a chance to talk to a candid adcom member ( from any school) you’ll get the clearer picture.
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But FT rankings do not even consider scores as criteria for rank. https://www.ft.com/mba-method
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It is annoying that guys for business education are checked on essay writing abilities. If I wanted to write essays and poems, I would become a poet. Just take my money and let me work in an investment bank. 😒
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But FT rankings do not even consider scores as criteria for rank. https://www.ft.com/mba-method
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But usnews does and those rankings matter to US B-schools
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no they don’t. These articles are literally lollipops for any willing to believe that GRE is also as valued as the GMAT. GRE is strictly used to ascertain whether a candidate can cope up with the academia - that’s it. If you get a chance to talk to a candid adcom member ( from any school) you’ll get the clearer picture.
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okay. How many adcom members can we even candidly talk to. Yes, we can deliberate or crib how biased the world is but still we have to find our ways.

When we get the opportunity, lets create an equitable ecosystem.
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It is annoying that guys for business education are checked on essay writing abilities. If I wanted to write essays and poems, I would become a poet. Just take my money and let me work in an investment bank. 😒
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I think you have not been able to grasp the idea of what marketing is. The essay is asking to sell your intelligence(your accomplishments vs your thinking process). If you can’t brag your accomplishments then how would you brag the accomplishments of your employers post MBA? get this straight buddy - you’ll figure out why the essay isn’t so bad - ;)

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okay. How many adcom members can we even candidly talk to. Yes, we can deliberate or crib how biased the world is but still we have to find our ways. When we get the opportunity, lets create an equitable ecosystem.
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I think you have not been able to grasp the idea of what marketing is. The essay is asking to sell your intelligence(your accomplishments vs your thinking process). If you can’t brag your accomplishments then how would you brag the accomplishments of your employers post MBA? get this straight buddy - you’ll figure out why the essay isn’t so bad - ;)
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for that exact reason my employer is recommending me. I think it is wiser to listen to them then listen to me bragging and selling half-false stories to you. We all know most of the essays are not genuinely written by the applicants.
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for that exact reason my employer is recommending me. I think it is wiser to listen to them then listen to me bragging and selling half-false stories to you. We all know most of the essays are not genuinely written by the applicants.
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Again - the essay is about your thinking process - complimented by your LOR, resume and interview skills - maybe try googling out why b-schools need essay. You’ll understand soon why this is far more important actually than some stupid GMAT
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for that exact reason my employer is recommending me. I think it is wiser to listen to them then listen to me bragging and selling half-false stories to you. We all know most of the essays are not genuinely written by the applicants.
Again - the essay is about your thinking process - complimented by your LOR, resume and interview skills - maybe try googling out why b-schools need essay. You’ll understand soon why this is far more important actually than some stupid GMAT
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Guys relax. Everyone will get some good school to go to this year!

Btw I think GMAT is required to get a foot in the door. Post that, essays/CV/LOR come into play. I believe this is true especially for overrepresented applicants.

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Paagrio - just to add to my point - in case you didn’t know - you’ll have to continue writing essays well into your job :) - most of your MBA coursework requires that you write essays based on your class understanding(you can check out the coursework homework materials and you’ll see), your interviewers expect you to write an essay on why you’ll be the best candidate and finally in your job also you’ll be expected to write success stories :)
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So if a person is a good bragger he’ll get accepted and receives good scholarship, and the guy who’s far better in his job and is bad at marketing gets declined. nice job by adcom and hrs 👍
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So if a person is a good bragger he’ll get accepted and receives good scholarship, and the guy who’s far better in his job and is bad at marketing gets declined. nice job by adcom and hrs 👍
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welcome to the real world :D
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So if a person is a good bragger he’ll get accepted and receives good scholarship, and the guy who’s far better in his job and is bad at marketing gets declined. nice job by adcom and hrs 👍
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This is true at even the workplace my friend :)

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I don’t think it’s about bragging. If you’re "bragging" on your essays, you’ll probably not considered a very suitable candidate. It’s, like someone else said, an opportunity to see how you think. They don’t want you to be a good writer. You need to be able to express decently. What you express will matter. What matters is how you approach the essay prompts, how you share pieces of yourself and your personality, and basically how you add colour to your candidacy, which they know is more than just numbers and stats like test scores, employers, number of promotions, etc. It’s a beautiful opportunity to let the adcoms see you as a person holistically. It’s why interviews are important too. Would you say a person who is a better conversationalist or an extrovert but doesn’t know what he’s talking about have better chances than another who knows is ****?
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I don’t think it’s about bragging. If you’re "bragging" on your essays, you’ll probably not considered a very suitable candidate. It’s, like someone else said, an opportunity to see how you think. They don’t want you to be a good writer. You need to be able to express decently. What you express will matter. What matters is how you approach the essay prompts, how you share pieces of yourself and your personality, and basically how you add colour to your candidacy, which they know is more than just numbers and stats like test scores, employers, number of promotions, etc. It’s a beautiful opportunity to let the adcoms see you as a person holistically. It’s why interviews are important too. Would you say a person who is a better conversationalist or an extrovert but doesn’t know what he’s talking about have better chances than another who knows is ****?
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Can’t say about others but when I am recruiting I never ask anyone to write any essays. I ask them to complete some professional tests, I do a little background check on him/her myself from his past supervisors, meet them in person to talk and that’s it.

I’m just a person who can not write. I’d rather talk in an interview. That’s all.
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