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For Q5, can you please provide line number range? It's actually tough to figure out paragraph demarcation from the current layout of the question

Can you And can you also help with OE of Q6 ? ( I chose A over B )

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Hi! Why are there no explanations to these questions. It would be highly beneficial to know, why the correct answer is right and a wrong one, not.

6. Which one of the following, if true, would most weaken one of the author’s arguments in the last paragraph?

(A) Participants in computer conferences are generally more accepting of diversity than is the population at large.

(B) Computer technology is rapidly becoming more affordable and accessible to people from a variety of backgrounds.

Why is it B and not A?

The passage emphasizes more on the diversity of the community rather than the affordability of Computer technology, right? so why not A
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For question 6, why is A incorrect.
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Spiddy wrote:

For Q5, can you please provide line number range? It's actually tough to figure out paragraph demarcation from the current layout of the question

Can you And can you also help with OE of Q6 ? ( I chose A over B )

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Hi! Why are there no explanations to these questions. It would be highly beneficial to know, why the correct answer is right and a wrong one, not.

6. Which one of the following, if true, would most weaken one of the author’s arguments in the last paragraph?

(A) Participants in computer conferences are generally more accepting of diversity than is the population at large.

(B) Computer technology is rapidly becoming more affordable and accessible to people from a variety of backgrounds.

Why is it B and not A?

The passage emphasizes more on the diversity of the community rather than the affordability of Computer technology, right? so why not A

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For question 6, why is A incorrect.

Explanation

5. What is the primary function of the second paragraph of the passage?

Difficulty Level: 700-750

Explanation

As we saw originally, Paragraph 2 sums up the argument of the conference-as-community crowd (C). By the time paragraph 2 rolls around we’re far beyond how computer conferences began (A).

(B) describes the purpose of paragraph 3, not paragraph 2. (D) would be more correct if it read “to introduce an argument that will be countered in….,” and (E) would better read “to the characterization of computer conferences rebutted in….”

6. Which one of the following, if true, would most weaken one of the author’s arguments in the last paragraph?

Difficulty Level: 700-750

Explanation

Two arguments are made in paragraph 3, and the first (computer conferences aren’t communities because they “discriminate”) is easier to weaken because it gets a lighter treatment. If (B) is true and computers are more “affordable and accessible,” then that is reason to argue that, today, there’s less discrimination “along educational and economic lines.” Greater acceptance of diversity (A) isn’t the same as greater diversity, and the latter is what the author argues is required of a true community.

(C) is a distortion; the author isn’t arguing in paragraph 3 that today’s communities aren’t civil and supportive enough (though he does imply, in Paragraph 1, that fewer people participate in communities than they did years ago). The comfort level of people in communities (D) doesn’t come under the author’s radar; if anything, the author would seem to favor sacrificing the comfort of anonymity in favor of some risky, face-to-face contact.

In the same way, (E) suggests that computer conferences are more efficient than true communities, but efficient communication is not the characteristic about which the author is so nostalgic.

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Re: Traditionally, members of a community such as a town or neighborhood s [#permalink]
Sajjad1994, the format of the passage needs change. The passage has 2 paragraphs, whereas the actual LSAT passage has 3 paragraphs. Probably why a lot of people got Q5 wrong.
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Brian123 wrote:
Sajjad1994, the format of the passage needs change. The passage has 2 paragraphs, whereas the actual LSAT passage has 3 paragraphs. Probably why a lot of people got Q5 wrong.

Hi Brian123,

Updated. Thanks.
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Brian123 wrote:
Sajjad1994, the format of the passage needs change. The passage has 2 paragraphs, whereas the actual LSAT passage has 3 paragraphs. Probably why a lot of people got Q5 wrong.

Restored the question in its original form now it has no formatting issue at all, if you still found any problem please do let me know.

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I still do not understand answer 6. It says Computers are more accessible, but we do not know anything about the users knowledge about its usage... how do we then know that it has lessened the discrimination?

" because participation requires a basic knowledge of computers and the ability to afford access to conferences"
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I still do not understand answer 6. It says Computers are more accessible, but we do not know anything about the users knowledge about its usage... how do we then know that it has lessened the discrimination?

" because participation requires a basic knowledge of computers and the ability to afford access to conferences"

Hi vamsi3511, MG0701, CuriosStud,

Quote:
(A) Participants in computer conferences are generally more accepting of diversity than is the population at large.

Last para talks about how computer conferences though being respectful and supportive still fall short of communities. Author provides an example for the same through the line: "For example, conferences discriminate along educational and economic lines because participation requires a basic knowledge of computers and the ability to afford access to conferences.", and then claims that people who inhabit towns or neighborhoods are thus more likely to exhibit genuine diversity—of age, career, or personal interests—than are conference participants.

We are looking for an options that weakens the claim by bridging the diversity gap in computer conferences. Option A mentions that participants in computer conferences are generally more accepting of diversity, which could be correct as we saw in earlier paragraphs how computer conferences have helped people to connect. But, how is this a weakener? We are not concerned with acceptance of diversity, we are concerned with the bridging the diversity gap in computer conferences, which is exactly what option B mentions.

Thus A is incorrect and B is the correct answer.

Hope This Helps.
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Can someone explain why E, and not C, is the answer for question 4?
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Explanation

4. Given the information in the passage, the author can most reasonably be said to use which one of the following principles to refute the advocates’ claim that computer conferences can function as communities (line 15)?

Difficulty Level: 650

Explanation

The stem cites line 15, but since the “refutation of the claim” doesn’t occur until paragraph 3, that’s where we must go. As we said before, ultimately the conference-as-community argument fails because computer conferences lack the kind of “genuine diversity” (line 58) that tie people together in “a sense of interdependence” (a phrase from line 4 that’s echoed in Paragraph 3). (E) correctly cites that diversity as a necessary condition of community.

(A) can’t be “refuting” the claim of conference-as-community, because (A) sums up why advocates make that claim in the first place (lines 36-41).

The adoption of etiquette conventions (B) is a characteristic of computer conferences that make them more respectful and supportive, but the author never asserts that, for instance, actual neighbors living next door have to have such etiquette conventions. They already are a community, because they live nearby and have mutual interests.

(C) is tricky. Proximity is listed in paragraph 1 as an aspect of “traditional communities.” But the question has to do with how the author refutes a claim, and the two necessary conditions of community in that refutation are a lack of discrimination (lines 44-47) and the presence of diversity (lines 47-59), and (C) mentions none of that.

(D) is easier to reject, since it’s a 180; diversity, not sameness, is what characterizes community.

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Can someone explain why E, and not C, is the answer for question 4?
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Can someone explain why E, and not C, is the answer for question 4?

It's pretty dang tricky.

When you struggle with an RC passage, you need to check carefully these three things:

1). Have I misread/misinterpreted/misunderstood/missed detail in the passage or in the question itself?

2). Have I set a good prediction/goal for the right answer of that question to achieve?

3). Have I chosen an answer that matches a good prediction/goal for this question?

It seems most likely to me your struggles come from #1 here, particularly regarding the *question itself*.

What, *exactly*, does this question ask for?
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ReedArnoldMPREP wrote:
brindapr wrote:
Can someone explain why E, and not C, is the answer for question 4?

It's pretty dang tricky.

When you struggle with an RC passage, you need to check carefully these three things:

1). Have I misread/misinterpreted/misunderstood/missed detail in the passage or in the question itself?

2). Have I set a good prediction/goal for the right answer of that question to achieve?

3). Have I chosen an answer that matches a good prediction/goal for this question?

It seems most likely to me your struggles come from #1 here, particularly regarding the *question itself*.

What, *exactly*, does this question ask for?

This was really helpful, thanks! I think this approach works for almost all the questions on Gmat except the ones requiring prediction/prethinking.
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Can someone provide explanation for Q2? Particularly, between choices C and D.
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Explanation

2. Based on the passage, the author would be LEAST likely to consider which one of the following a community?

Difficulty Level: 700

Explanation

The four wrong choices all demonstrate elements that are a part of the author’s definition of community: shared interest (line 49)—note that the four wrong ones all use the words “the same”—as well as “genuine diversity” (lines 55-59). But in (C), there’s a sameness of interest with little diversity. Indeed, (C) could have been written as a clear illustration of conferences as described in lines 53-55.

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Can someone provide explanation for Q2? Particularly, between choices C and D.
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Re: Traditionally, members of a community such as a town or neighborhood s [#permalink]
A really good question to practise understanding the main argument of an author, although I doubt that it's a 700 level question.

I think that the key idea here is why the author does not think that the conference is not equivalent to actual communities.
As long as you have a good understanding of the reasons stated in the last paragraph, it's not hard to answer Q1,2,4 and 6.
Reasons
- Discriminate: "Conferences discriminate along educational and economic lines"
- Diversity: "Conference participants are a self-selecting group; they are drawn together by their shared interest in the topic of the conference. Actual communities, on the other
hand, are “nonintentional”

Not because of
- support or
- respect

Q3 and 5 are more like function type questions, so it is also not hard as long as you follow the author's intention and the main point throughout the passage.
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