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Truck A is on a straight highway heading due south at the same time Truck B is on a different straight highway heading due east. At 1:00 PM, Truck A is exactly 14 miles north of Truck B. If both trucks are traveling at a constant speed of 30 miles per hour, at which of the following times will they be exactly 10 miles apart?

A. 1:10 PM
B. 1:12 PM
C. 1:14 PM
D. 1:15 PM
E. 1:20 PM

I went down the answer choices.

B. at 1:12pm 12 minutes went by, or 1/5th of an hour.

30mph = distance / (1/5)
distance = 6 miles

Truck A's coordinates: (0, 14-6) = (0, 8)
Truck B's coordinates: (6, 0)

\sqrt{(8-0)^2 + (0-6)^2}
\sqrt{64+36}
\sqrt{100}
\sqrt{10}

The answer is 12 minutes passed for the trucks to be 10 miles apart.
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that was pretty good explanation EMPOWERgmatRichC
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let each truck travel m miles, creating a right triangle with sides of 14-m, m, and a hypotenuse of 10
(14-m)^2+m^2=10^2
(m-8)(m-6)=0
m=8 and 6 miles
8/30=4/15 hour=1:16
6/30=1/5 hour=1:12, answer B
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Truck A is exactly 14 miles north of Truck B
experts and others how did you infer this line i was stumped in this line : whether its the horizontal distance or the vertical one .once that is clear the question is very easy @Bunnel
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Hi Bunuel VeritasKarishma generis EMPOWERgmatRichC

Can we use relative velocities to solve this problem ? The relative velocities between the two will be 30^2 + 30^2 = RV^2 but I don't know how to go from here. We can't simply use 10 miles to calculate time using this relative velocity since it will be time to cover the distance of 10 miles and not the time that the two trucks will be 10 miles apart.

Can you please help if there is a way to solve this question this way.
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Hi Bunuel VeritasKarishma generis EMPOWERgmatRichC

Can we use relative velocities to solve this problem ? The relative velocities between the two will be 30^2 + 30^2 = RV^2 but I don't know how to go from here. We can't simply use 10 miles to calculate time using this relative velocity since it will be time to cover the distance of 10 miles and not the time that the two trucks will be 10 miles apart.

Can you please help if there is a way to solve this question this way.

Note that because truck A is moving towards South, its vertical component of displacement from truck B is reducing initially. After it crosses O, its vertical component so displacement will increase. So we cannot say RV^2 = 30^2 + 30^2.

The point of this question is to help you practice identifying 30-60-90 triangles.
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Truck A is on a straight highway heading due south at the same time Truck B is on a different straight highway heading due east. At 1:00 PM, Truck A is exactly 14 miles north of Truck B. If both trucks are traveling at a constant speed of 30 miles per hour, at which of the following times will they be exactly 10 miles apart?

A. 1:10 PM
B. 1:12 PM
C. 1:14 PM
D. 1:15 PM
E. 1:20 PM

Quickly draw to understand what the question is telling you. The first diagram shown you the situation at 1:00 pm. The second diagram shows the pic of some time later:
Attachment:
Ques3.jpg

The hypotenuse of 10 should remind you of the 3-4-5 pythagorean triplet. Here we might have its multiple 6-8-10.
So we are looking at the vertical distance of 8 (which means truck A has traveled a distance of 6 miles from the 14 miles) and horizontal distance of 6 traveled by truck B - both trucks traveled 6 miles in this case which is expected since their speed is the same.
They travel 30 miles in one hour (60 mins) so they will travel 6 miles in 60*6/30 = 12 mins.

Answer (B)

Hello VeritasKarishma,
It's a really great explanation however, I did not understand as to why we consider pythagorean triplet?
Also, is it necessary that if a triangle is right angled and has hypotenuse 10, then it must have a pythagorean triplet?
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Hi SDW2,

The GMAT commonly tests a set of established right triangles - 30/60/90, 45/45/90, 3/4/5 and 5/12/13. Thus, any time a right triangle appears in a GMAT question, it's a reasonable idea to start with the right triangles that often show up. With just one side of a right triangle (and no other information - such as one of the sides or one of the non-90 degree angles), there's no way to immediately know what type of right triangle it is. With the Pythagorean Theorem, we'd have:

A^2 + B^2 = 10^2

...so there are LOTS of different non-integer numbers that will fit this equation, but again, the GMAT is a consistent, predictable Exam that's tests certain Quant and Verbal ideas... and the answers to this question are based on the idea that we should be able to figure out what the exact side lengths of this right triangle are (and it's not likely that we're dealing with any crazy-looking square roots).

Here, we're asked for the time at which the trucks are 10 miles apart. Since the question doesn't describe angles of any kind, and 10 is a multiple of 5, we're almost certainly looking for a 3/4/5 triangle that's been doubled (into a 6/8/10 triangle).

If you do enough work with the rest of the information that you've been given, then you'll know it for sure.

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Hi SDW2,

The GMAT commonly tests a set of established right triangles - 30/60/90, 45/45/90, 3/4/5 and 5/12/13. Thus, any time a right triangle appears in a GMAT question, it's a reasonable idea to start with the right triangles that often show up. With just one side of a right triangle (and no other information - such as one of the sides or one of the non-90 degree angles), there's no way to immediately know what type of right triangle it is. With the Pythagorean Theorem, we'd have:

A^2 + B^2 = 10^2

...so there are LOTS of different non-integer numbers that will fit this equation, but again, the GMAT is a consistent, predictable Exam that's tests certain Quant and Verbal ideas... and the answers to this question are based on the idea that we should be able to figure out what the exact side lengths of this right triangle are (and it's not likely that we're dealing with any crazy-looking square roots).

Here, we're asked for the time at which the trucks are 10 miles apart. Since the question doesn't describe angles of any kind, and 10 is a multiple of 5, we're almost certainly looking for a 3/4/5 triangle that's been doubled (into a 6/8/10 triangle).

If you do enough work with the rest of the information that you've been given, then you'll know it for sure.

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Hello EMPOWERgmatRichC
Thank you for replying. Just to get little more clarity, if I were to choose any other set of values(say non-integer values) that satisfy the pythagorean equation, then does that mean I still would have gotten the same final answer to this question? And that we only chose 6/8/10 combination because it made calculations easier?
Thank you in advance
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Hi SDW2,

In these types of situations, it helps to consider all of the other information that you are given in the prompt.

If you were to use non-integer values for the equation A^2 + B^2 = 10^2, then you should consider how the REST of the calculations in the question would go. Since both trucks are traveling 30 miles/hour, if you were to multiply that speed by some complex-looking non-integer, then you would almost certainly NOT end up with an integer in the end. Since the trucks end up EXACTLY 14 miles apart AND the answer choices are all EXACT times (with no weird fractions/decimals or 'seconds' included), it's incredibly UNLIKELY that we're dealing with non-integers (since non-integers wouldn't lead to those nice, 'clean' calculation results - they would lead to ugly-looking, non-integer results).

That's why it's highly likely that we'll need simple integers for this equation (and why a 6 and 8 are almost certainly what we're looking for because of the 6/8/10 right triangle). If you try any other pair of numbers, you WON'T end up with a distance or time that matches what's given in the prompt, so you can't just use any two values for the two variables.

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Hi SDW2,

In these types of situations, it helps to consider all of the other information that you are given in the prompt.

If you were to use non-integer values for the equation A^2 + B^2 = 10^2, then you should consider how the REST of the calculations in the question would go. Since both trucks are traveling 30 miles/hour, if you were to multiply that speed by some complex-looking non-integer, then you would almost certainly NOT end up with an integer in the end. Since the trucks end up EXACTLY 14 miles apart AND the answer choices are all EXACT times (with no weird fractions/decimals or 'seconds' included), it's incredibly UNLIKELY that we're dealing with non-integers (since non-integers wouldn't lead to those nice, 'clean' calculation results - they would lead to ugly-looking, non-integer results).

That's why it's highly likely that we'll need simple integers for this equation (and why a 6 and 8 are almost certainly what we're looking for because of the 6/8/10 right triangle). If you try any other pair of numbers, you WON'T end up with a distance or time that matches what's given in the prompt, so you can't just use any two values for the two variables.

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Got it. Thank you EMPOWERgmatRichC
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The GMAT loves special triangles.
Many -- if not MOST -- official problems involving right triangles can be solved WITHOUT applying the pythagorean theorem.
For another example, check my post here:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/a-small-rect ... l#p2617064
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Truck A is on a straight highway heading due south at the same time Truck B is on a different straight highway heading due east. At 1:00 PM, Truck A is exactly 14 miles north of Truck B. If both trucks are traveling at a constant speed of 30 miles per hour, at which of the following times will they be exactly 10 miles apart?

A. 1:10 PM
B. 1:12 PM
C. 1:14 PM
D. 1:15 PM
E. 1:20 PM

Quickly draw to understand what the question is telling you. The first diagram shown you the situation at 1:00 pm. The second diagram shows the pic of some time later:
Attachment:
Ques3.jpg

The hypotenuse of 10 should remind you of the 3-4-5 pythagorean triplet. Here we might have its multiple 6-8-10.
So we are looking at the vertical distance of 8 (which means truck A has traveled a distance of 6 miles from the 14 miles) and horizontal distance of 6 traveled by truck B - both trucks traveled 6 miles in this case which is expected since their speed is the same.
They travel 30 miles in one hour (60 mins) so they will travel 6 miles in 60*6/30 = 12 mins.

Answer (B)

Hello VeritasKarishma,
It's a really great explanation however, I did not understand as to why we consider pythagorean triplet?
Also, is it necessary that if a triangle is right angled and has hypotenuse 10, then it must have a pythagorean triplet?

No. A right triangle with 10 as hypotenuse can have infinite combinations of values for the lengths of the two legs.
But if it were to be a pythagorean triplet, only 6, 8, 10 (a multiple of 3-4-5) would work.
Usually in GMAT you will be given easy numbers since you do not have a calculator. Also, GMAT rewards you for recognising patterns, oft seen figures etc. It is extremely unlikely that the other two legs would be say 5 and sqrt(75) since options give us clean values for time passed in minutes . So numbers need to fit in properly.
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Truck A is on a straight highway heading due south at the same time Truck B is on a different straight highway heading due east. At 1:00 PM, Truck A is exactly 14 miles north of Truck B. If both trucks are traveling at a constant speed of 30 miles per hour, at which of the following times will they be exactly 10 miles apart?

A. 1:10 PM
B. 1:12 PM
C. 1:14 PM
D. 1:15 PM
E. 1:20 PM

Quickly draw to understand what the question is telling you. The first diagram shown you the situation at 1:00 pm. The second diagram shows the pic of some time later:
Attachment:
Ques3.jpg

The hypotenuse of 10 should remind you of the 3-4-5 pythagorean triplet. Here we might have its multiple 6-8-10.
So we are looking at the vertical distance of 8 (which means truck A has traveled a distance of 6 miles from the 14 miles) and horizontal distance of 6 traveled by truck B - both trucks traveled 6 miles in this case which is expected since their speed is the same.
They travel 30 miles in one hour (60 mins) so they will travel 6 miles in 60*6/30 = 12 mins.

Answer (B)

Hello VeritasKarishma,
It's a really great explanation however, I did not understand as to why we consider pythagorean triplet?
Also, is it necessary that if a triangle is right angled and has hypotenuse 10, then it must have a pythagorean triplet?

No. A right triangle with 10 as hypotenuse can have infinite combinations of values for the lengths of the two legs.
But if it were to be a pythagorean triplet, only 6, 8, 10 (a multiple of 3-4-5) would work.
Usually in GMAT you will be given easy numbers since you do not have a calculator. Also, GMAT rewards you for recognising patterns, oft seen figures etc. It is extremely unlikely that the other two legs would be say 5 and sqrt(75) since options give us clean values for time passed in minutes . So numbers need to fit in properly.

Got it! Thank you VeritasKarishma
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Truck A is on a straight highway heading due south at the same time Truck B is on a different straight highway heading due east. At 1:00 PM, Truck A is exactly 14 miles north of Truck B. If both trucks are traveling at a constant speed of 30 miles per hour, at which of the following times will they be exactly 10 miles apart?

A. 1:10 PM
B. 1:12 PM
C. 1:14 PM
D. 1:15 PM
E. 1:20 PM

Quickly draw to understand what the question is telling you. The first diagram shown you the situation at 1:00 pm. The second diagram shows the pic of some time later:
Attachment:
Ques3.jpg

The hypotenuse of 10 should remind you of the 3-4-5 pythagorean triplet. Here we might have its multiple 6-8-10.
So we are looking at the vertical distance of 8 (which means truck A has traveled a distance of 6 miles from the 14 miles) and horizontal distance of 6 traveled by truck B - both trucks traveled 6 miles in this case which is expected since their speed is the same.
They travel 30 miles in one hour (60 mins) so they will travel 6 miles in 60*6/30 = 12 mins.

Answer (B)

Hey VeritasKarishma
i had tried to solve in a similar manner but i took the distance A and B traveled as 8
hence AO becomes 6 here and OB becomes 8
this way the answer should come as 1:16
i understand 1:16 isnt in the answer choices; but how would we decide whether to take distance traveled as 8 or 6?
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Truck A is on a straight highway heading due south at the same time Truck B is on a different straight highway heading due east. At 1:00 PM, Truck A is exactly 14 miles north of Truck B. If both trucks are traveling at a constant speed of 30 miles per hour, at which of the following times will they be exactly 10 miles apart?

A. 1:10 PM
B. 1:12 PM
C. 1:14 PM
D. 1:15 PM
E. 1:20 PM

Quickly draw to understand what the question is telling you. The first diagram shown you the situation at 1:00 pm. The second diagram shows the pic of some time later:
Attachment:
Ques3.jpg

The hypotenuse of 10 should remind you of the 3-4-5 pythagorean triplet. Here we might have its multiple 6-8-10.
So we are looking at the vertical distance of 8 (which means truck A has traveled a distance of 6 miles from the 14 miles) and horizontal distance of 6 traveled by truck B - both trucks traveled 6 miles in this case which is expected since their speed is the same.
They travel 30 miles in one hour (60 mins) so they will travel 6 miles in 60*6/30 = 12 mins.

Answer (B)

Hey VeritasKarishma
i had tried to solve in a similar manner but i took the distance A and B traveled as 8
hence AO becomes 6 here and OB becomes 8
this way the answer should come as 1:16
i understand 1:16 isnt in the answer choices; but how would we decide whether to take distance traveled as 8 or 6?

Hi Kritisood,

Once you recognize that you're probably dealing with a 6/8/10 triangle, you've made the big 'deduction', so it's not so much that you have to choose between 6 and 8 - instead, you have to think in terms that you might have to check both to figure out which of the 2 options leads to one of the 5 answer choices. If you had found the correct answer on the 'first try', then you would be done; if you did not find an answer that matches, then you would check the other option.

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Truck A is on a straight highway heading due south at the same time Truck B is on a different straight highway heading due east. At 1:00 PM, Truck A is exactly 14 miles north of Truck B. If both trucks are traveling at a constant speed of 30 miles per hour, at which of the following times will they be exactly 10 miles apart?

A. 1:10 PM
B. 1:12 PM
C. 1:14 PM
D. 1:15 PM
E. 1:20 PM

Quickly draw to understand what the question is telling you. The first diagram shown you the situation at 1:00 pm. The second diagram shows the pic of some time later:
Attachment:
Ques3.jpg

The hypotenuse of 10 should remind you of the 3-4-5 pythagorean triplet. Here we might have its multiple 6-8-10.
So we are looking at the vertical distance of 8 (which means truck A has traveled a distance of 6 miles from the 14 miles) and horizontal distance of 6 traveled by truck B - both trucks traveled 6 miles in this case which is expected since their speed is the same.
They travel 30 miles in one hour (60 mins) so they will travel 6 miles in 60*6/30 = 12 mins.

Answer (B)

Hey VeritasKarishma
i had tried to solve in a similar manner but i took the distance A and B traveled as 8
hence AO becomes 6 here and OB becomes 8
this way the answer should come as 1:16
i understand 1:16 isnt in the answer choices; but how would we decide whether to take distance traveled as 8 or 6?

Kritisood - Either is possible. You will need to check for both. Only one will be in the answer options. I will check for 6 first because 6/30 is simpler since 30 is a multiple of 6, that is all.
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