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With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about public health and safety there

A. With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about

B. With California expecting to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts for as much as 30 days, the administration's concern has grown increasingly about

C. As California is expected to be seeing severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as much as 30 days this summer, the administration's concern is increasing for

D. Insofar as California is expected to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts as many as 30 days, the administration has increasing concern about

E. Insofar as California expects to see severe electricity shortfalls and the possibility of blackouts for 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about

2/2/1 split..
I was thinking that the use of ''grown & increasingly'' is redundant....crossed A out ...and marked D.
Looks like the usage of idiom ''insofar as'' is not correct in D ?


in b, has grown about dose not exist in english
in c, concern is increasing for means concern is increasing for the purpose of. this meaing is not logic
in d and e, insofar as means "if" showing a conditional. this meaning is not logic here. in the context that california expect something, persons concern . this meaning is more logic
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The original sentence has “…California is expected to see…blackouts on as many as 30 days…”. B has “as much as 30 days”. “Days” are countable, so “many” is used and not “much”. C has the same problem. D incorrectly eliminates the “on”. In E “blackouts for 30 days” changes the meaning, implying that a blackout may last 30 days. A is correct. Notice the redundancy is C’s “to be seeing”, rather than the shorter “to see”.
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A question of style and idiom

A. With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about --- By about the best.

B. with California expecting to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer and there will possibly be blackouts for as much as 30 days, the administration's concern has grown increasingly about --- as much as – a wrong idiom.

C. As California is expected to be seeing severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as much as 30 days this summer, the administration's concern is increasing for ----- as much as – a wrong idiom.

D. Insofar as California is expected to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts as many as 30 days, the administration has increasing concern about – In so far as means in as much as ; The problem is in blackouts as 30 days – which leads to weird comparison .

E. Insofar as California expects to see severe electricity shortfalls and the possibility of blackouts for 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about --- ‘blackouts for’ is not idiomatic; it should be ‘blackouts


Generally, the sentence construction is rather poor.


I think E is wrong because the sentence says
California expects to see (1)severe electricity shortfalls
(2)possibility of blackout

expected to see and possibility are redundant
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Experts please comment why A is correct?
Is nt it a construction
"Preposition + noun + participle"
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Experts please comment why A is correct?
Is nt it a construction
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I would not suggest to eliminate a choice outright because it has "Preposition + noun + participle" construction.

Such construction is correct when the object of preposition is the "noun", but not the "participle". Example: With California expected to see.... California is the object of the preposition "with"... correct.

However the construction would be wrong if the participle were the object of preposition - following is an example from Ron Purewal of MGMAT:
you can't say "my parents heard about me failing the test". the reason isn't simply because it's prep+pron+verb, though, but because of semantics: they didn't hear about me - they heard about the failing.
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"Expected to do something" is the correct format here. So "B" and "E" are out. "C" has an apostrophe with "administration" which is not preferred provided there is a better ans choice. Moreover "concern for" and "concerned about" do not imply the same meaning. In "D" the part of the sentence from "there will ....blackouts "is not an additional information or an insertible/removable phrase. Hence it cannot be place between two commas. Its the main part of the sentence.Additionally "increasing concern" is also wrong in "D". By elimination we are left with one answer which is "A." The answers which had increase
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Hi Experts / chetan2u / daagh ,

Isn't grown +increasingly are redundant in A and E.
Can you please share your opinion on this..??

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PrakharGMAT wrote:
Hi Experts / chetan2u / daagh ,

Isn't grown +increasingly are redundant in A and E.
Can you please share your opinion on this..??

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Hi,
the REDUNDANCY will depend on the context in which grown has been used..

1) grown-- Increase
Cricket's popularity has grown increasingly.. WRONG

2) grown- become..
the boy has grown increasingly weak..

It is in this context that GROWN has been used in the sentence..
substitute BECOME in place of GROWN, you will find the sentence perfectly fine..
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For me "has grown increasingly concerned" sounds weird. Looks like administration has grown?? That is why i eliminated A. But it is correct answer
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For me "has grown increasingly concerned" sounds weird. Looks like administration has grown?? That is why i eliminated A. But it is correct answer


hi,
here GROWN means become...
so the sentence becomes...
With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown become increasingly concerned about..
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For me "has grown increasingly concerned" sounds weird. Looks like administration has grown?? That is why i eliminated A. But it is correct answer


hi,
here GROWN means become...
so the sentence becomes...
With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown become increasingly concerned about..


Hi Chetan2u!
Thanks! Yes i understand that grown can mean "become". But the trick here is that one may think that "concern has grown increasingly, not the administration itself". Tough to get a meaning
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could someone tell me the difference between-
Administration has grown increasingly concerned about & Administration has increasing concern about
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For me "has grown increasingly concerned" sounds weird. Looks like administration has grown?? That is why i eliminated A. But it is correct answer


hi,
here GROWN means become...
so the sentence becomes...
With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown become increasingly concerned about..


Hi Chetan2u!
Thanks! Yes i understand that grown can mean "become". But the trick here is that one may think that "concern has grown increasingly, not the administration itself". Tough to get a meaning


"Administration", not " concerned" is the subject of the verb "grown". Once one understands this, it would not be very difficult to get rid of the confusion.
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could someone tell me the difference between-
Administration has grown increasingly concerned about & Administration has increasing concern about


Administration has grown increasingly concerned about : refers to a period of time in which the the admininstration has grown something (increasingly).

Administration has increasing concern about: refers to a point of time in which Administration has something (that is increasing).

My opinion is that this difference in meaning (if one could call it a difference at all) could safely be ignored.
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With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about public health and safety there.


A. With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about

B. With California expecting to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts for as much as 30 days, the administration's concern has grown increasingly about

C. As California is expected to be seeing severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as much as 30 days this summer, the administration's concern is increasing for

D. Insofar as California is expected to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts on as many as 30 days, the administration has increasing concern about

E. Insofar as California expects to see severe electricity shortfalls and the possibility of blackouts for as much as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about


Experts, please help me explain:
- Why not D? What wrong with it?
- in A: "has grown increasingly concerned about" is it redundancy? I hear it a little strange
- The generally using of "With"

Thank you so much!

Originally posted by johng2016 on 22 Apr 2016, 00:05.
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With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about public health and safety there.


A. With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about

B. With California expecting to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts for as much as 30 days, the administration's concern has grown increasingly about

C. As California is expected to be seeing severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as much as 30 days this summer, the administration's concern is increasing for

D. Insofar as California is expected to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts on as many as 30 days, the administration has increasing concern about

E. Insofar as California expects to see severe electricity shortfalls and the possibility of blackouts for as much as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about


Experts, please help me explain:
- Why not D? What wrong with it?
- in A: "has grown increasingly concerned about" is it redundancy? I hear it a little strange
- The generally using of "With"

Thank you so much!


Since you have queries on the OA and D, I will touch upon them only..
D. D. Insofar as California is expected to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts on as many as 30 days, the administration has increasing concern about
In so far means ' to the extent that' and it does not fit in ..
if you look at the original Q it talks of both severe electricity shortfallsand perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, D removes the summer from 30 days and it seems now these 30 days are in complete year..

OA -
With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about..
there is no redunancy in grown increasingly..
here GROWN means BECOME..
so it is-- "the administration has grown become increasingly concerned about.. thats OK
Yes, I have read people talking about structure 'preposition + noun + participle' to be considered wrong on GMAT. But now it seems they are flexible on it..
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is this part underlined in the Q or not?
public health and safety there

Why is B wrong?
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