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As part of a game, four people each must secretly choose an integer between 1 and 4, inclusive. What is the approximate likelihood that all four people will choose different numbers?

a) 9%
b) 12%
c) 16%
d) 20%
e) 25%

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B. Exactly 2 people choose same number and other 2 choose different numbers - {a,a,b,c}:

\(P(B)=\frac{C^2_4*4*P^2_3}{4^4}=\frac{144}{256}\).

\(C^2_4\) - # of ways to choose which 2 persons will have the same number;
\(4\) - # of ways to choose which number it will be;
\(P^2_3\) - # of ways to choose 2 different numbers out of 3 left for 2 other persons when order matters;

C. 2 people choose same number and other 2 also choose same number - {a,a,b,b}:

\(P(C)=\frac{{C^2_4*\frac{4!}{2!2!}}}{4^4}=\frac{36}{256}\).

\(C^2_4\) - # of ways to choose which 2 numbers out of 4 will be used in {a,a,b,b};
\(\frac{4!}{2!2!}\) - # of ways to "assign" 4 objects out of which 2 a's and 2 b's are identical to 4 persons;



Bunuel,

I am teribbly sorry to revive this old post but I am still trying to find out to out compute options (B) and (C) that you have laid out.

For (B) this was my thought process- - {a,a,b,c}:

(4C1)(4C2)(3C1)(2C1)(2C1)(1C1)=288 ( You got 144, which is half my answer, why do I need to divide by 2?)

(# of ways to pick the paired number)(# of ways to place the pair within the 4 slots) (# of ways to pick the first non-pair number)(# of ways to place first non-pair number in the remaining two slots)(# of ways to pick the second non-pair number)(# of ways to place the second non-pair in the last slot)

For (C) this was my thought process - {a,a,b,b}:

(4C1)(4C2)(3C1)(2C2)=72

(# of ways to pick the first pair)(# of ways to place first pair number in the 4 slots)(# of ways to pick the second pair )(# of ways to place second pair in the remaining 2 slots)


What am I doing wrong here? Help Bunuel!
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Hi.

Actually this comes from a very basic question.

I had a similar doubt and after some thinking , here is my explanation.

If 2 people have to pick 2 numbers out of 3. How many ways can you do it?

When order matters , you will do it 2P23 when order doesn't matter you will do it in 2C3 ways.

Hope you are with me till this point.

Now for second part is 2C3 = 1C3*2C1?

Ans is No, because you are double counting the cases , hence 2C3= 1C3*2C1/2

Now comes the main part

Once you are taking 1C3*1C2*1C2*1C1

You have already considered the arrangement by picking 1C3*1C2 you don't have to have another 1C2 , simply because you are picking something doesn't mean there has to be a "C" attached to it.

Say you have A and B picking from 1,2 and 3.

Essentially by your approach you are saying

* You picked A , (1C2) and A can select any one out of 3 numbers ( 1C3)
I.e A1,A2,A3 or B1,B2,B3 (6 cases considered)
Consider it like a 2X3 matrix
|1 2 3|- 3 elements
|A B|- 2 elements

3*2 elements already considers all possible cases.

Now if you pick 1C2 the second time , you are picking A2 again in second pick if B1 is picked first. But please see above A2 is already picked as a case with B1. You don't have to do it another time.

It might take some time to digest as it did to me.
Hope practise solves this issue.

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Need some guidance.

Can i do 1/4x1/4x1/4x1/4 x 4! x 100

(1/4)^4 is the number of times a number may be selected and 4! helps to avoid arrangement issues and 100 for percent

ans comes out to 9.3% approx.
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As part of a game, four people each must secretly choose an integer between 1 and 4, inclusive. What is the approximate likelihood that all four people will choose different numbers?

A. 9%
B. 12%
C. 16%
D. 20%
E. 25%
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Need some guidance.

Can i do 1/4x1/4x1/4x1/4 x 4! x 100

(1/4)^4 is the number of times a number may be selected and 4! helps to avoid arrangement issues and 100 for percent

ans comes out to 9.3% approx.
Multiplying by 100 is technically incorrect - but as long as you know that 0.09 => 9% and you're only multiplying by 100 to get a result in integer for your own ease, its fine.
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