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# Attempt 5th , bad score continues

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24 Feb 2020, 00:59
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I gave Gmat today again after 4th attempt on 5th dec 2019.
Got abysmal 640 again ( V 38, Q 39).The shocking part is q 39 which was 46 last time. I don't know what m doing wrong. I have never been this bad in studies.
I had practiced so much too.Practiced a lot in EGMAT SCHOLARINUM. Always scored 86-92 percentile in verbal and 54-62 percentile in quant.
I do not know whether i should continue with GMAT.
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24 Feb 2020, 01:45
vanam52923 - I am sorry to hear that you could not reach your target even after 5 attempts. Are you making necessary changes to your preparation? Could you provide the timeline and score breakdown of all your 5 attempts? I suppose you should take a few weeks break; perhaps, you have reached a level of fatigue after such long preparation time. That said, 640 is a good score and with minor improvements, you could get a 700+ on the GMAT; however, you must be doing something wrong and we just need to figure out what that something is. And no, giving up is not an option. You should not give up until you reach your target score.
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24 Feb 2020, 19:04
Hi vanam5292,

-- for how long have you been studying?

-- what are the dates and score breakdowns of your GMATs?

-- what are the dates and score breakdowns of your official practice GMATs?

-- what resources have you been using?

-- what is your score goal?

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26 Feb 2020, 05:01
ScottTargetTestPrep wrote:
Hi vanam5292,

-- for how long have you been studying?
I started in august 2018 nd studied till jan 2019

then spet 2019 to feb 2020

-- what are the dates and score breakdowns of your GMATs?

-- what are the dates and score breakdowns of your official practice GMATs?

-- what resources have you been using?

-- what is your score goal?

The Surprising Factor that is the Key to Hitting Your GMAT Score Goal: Grit

The Phases of Preparing for the GMAT

Hi

-for how long have you been studying?
I started in august 2018 nd studied till jan 2019

then spet 2019 to feb 2020

-
-- what are the dates and score breakdowns of your official practice GMATs?

- what are the dates and score breakdowns of your GMATs?
GMAT 1 - 18th september 2018 : 570( v 29 , q39)
GMAT 2 - 20 december 2018 : 580( v 28 , q42)
GMAT 3 - 18January 2019 : 590( v 34 , q38)
GMAT 4 - 5 December 2019 : 640( v 33 , q46)
GMAT 4 - 5 December 2019 : 640( v 38 , q39)

-- what resources have you been using?

Materials used over past 2 years preparation (though scattered preparation)

1)Jamboree Red and Blue books completely solved.
2) OG solved and also whole material of GMAT PREP solved.
3)Exhausted all official prep tests .
had no test left this time.
4) Done with egmat quant and verbal course.

These 2 months i only practised egmat scholranium for both verbal and quant.
Daily i gave tests 31 qsn in quant and 36 verbal.
Scored 82-99 percentile in Verbal Scholaranium.
Scored 50 - 68 percentile in Quant Scholaranium.
Though i find quant part of egmat bit tougher than original gmat, still i never socreed this bad as i did in original gmat.

-- what is your score goal?

720+

August 2020(applying now for 2021 session but ll target round 1 only)

I gave 5th attempt of Gmat on 24th February and could score only 640( V 38, Q39).
I had given 4th attempt on 5th dec 2019 and scored 640 (V 33, Q46).
In third attempt , i had 590 with V 34, Q38.
I am attaching all three ESRs.
Please review them and guide me. i plan to give GMAT again after few months ( need a break now from this frustration).

Plz help me with sply these observations:

Though my cr has improved this time , but sc in 3rd attempt was 91 percentile ,its 77 percentile now.Does it mean performing bad on SC(which is consider my strength).
Also how to improve from V38 to V42( because this time while attempting exam ,barring 2 SC and one cr question i could find whole paper very doable and could finish 55 seconds before the assigned time. is this overconfidence)?

Now coming to my nightmare, QUANT.
I donot know where i go wrong in quant and i had practiced so much.THe satrting few questions i could not solve at all , they were plain questions but i could not solve i know.
Given any high level question , i do solve them in practice test and at home but donot know why i could not solve such simple questions in exam.
And drop from Q46 to Q39 is unpardonable.
I have to improve to Q 50 now and i know i can do it. I can and have solved sufficient number of problems with confidence.
I am attaching last 3 esrs ,plz review and guide me
Thank you so much
Attachments

File comment: Attempt 5th feb 2020
ESR_ATTEMPT5.pdf [488.65 KiB]

File comment: Attempt 4 dec 2019
ESR_ATTEMPT4.pdf [482.48 KiB]

File comment: Attempt 3 Jan 2019
ESR_ATTEMPT3.pdf [497.36 KiB]

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26 Feb 2020, 12:23
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Hi vanam52923,

First off, let’s look at the good news. On your first ever practice exam you scored V29, and on your recent GMAT you scored V38, so that is a very nice improvement in verbal. Regarding quant, since you scored higher than 39 just once, it’s a sign that you have lingering weak areas in quant that must be addressed in order to improve your quant score (especially to Q50). So, moving forward, you may consider following a linear and structured study plan that allows you to learn each GMAT quant topic individually and then practice each topic until you’ve gained mastery. Let me expand on this idea further.

For example, if you are learning about Number Properties, you should develop as much conceptual knowledge about Number Properties as possible. In other words, your goal will be to completely understand properties of factorials, perfect squares, quadratic patterns, LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, and remainders, to name a few concepts. After carefully reviewing the conceptual underpinnings of how to answer Number Properties questions, practice by answering 50 or more questions just from Number Properties. When you do dozens of questions of the same type one after the other, you learn just what it takes to get questions of that type correct consistently. If you aren't getting close to 90 percent of questions of a certain type correct, go back and seek to better understand how that type of question works, and then do more questions of that type until you get to around at least 90 percent accuracy in your training. If you get 100 percent of some sets correct, even better. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

In order to follow the path described above, you may need some new quant materials, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant courses.

Feel free to reach out with further questions.

Good luck!
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26 Feb 2020, 19:24
ScottTargetTestPrep wrote:
Hi vanam52923,

First off, let’s look at the good news. On your first ever practice exam you scored V29, and on your recent GMAT you scored V38, so that is a very nice improvement in verbal. Regarding quant, since you scored higher than 39 just once, it’s a sign that you have lingering weak areas in quant that must be addressed in order to improve your quant score (especially to Q50). So, moving forward, you may consider following a linear and structured study plan that allows you to learn each GMAT quant topic individually and then practice each topic until you’ve gained mastery. Let me expand on this idea further.

For example, if you are learning about Number Properties, you should develop as much conceptual knowledge about Number Properties as possible. In other words, your goal will be to completely understand properties of factorials, perfect squares, quadratic patterns, LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, and remainders, to name a few concepts. After carefully reviewing the conceptual underpinnings of how to answer Number Properties questions, practice by answering 50 or more questions just from Number Properties. When you do dozens of questions of the same type one after the other, you learn just what it takes to get questions of that type correct consistently. If you aren't getting close to 90 percent of questions of a certain type correct, go back and seek to better understand how that type of question works, and then do more questions of that type until you get to around at least 90 percent accuracy in your training. If you get 100 percent of some sets correct, even better. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

In order to follow the path described above, you may need some new quant materials, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant courses.

Feel free to reach out with further questions.

Good luck!

Thank you so much. i have sent u pm
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27 Feb 2020, 15:19
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vanam52923 - thank you for being a student. A V38 is excellent.. and we can certainly work together to improve on the same. We can combine the data from your ESR with that in the platform to create an improvement plan for you. Overall, you should be able to improve from a V38 to V42 in about 20 days (approx. 60 hrs of effort).

Take a look at how Jim planned his improvement: https://gmatclub.com/forum/trust-the-pr ... 07942.html

Improving GMAT Quant

Clearly you need to do more work in Quant. Work with an e-GMAT mentor who can help create a personalized study strategy and guide you as to what you need to do every day. The good thing - we can leverage all your data to create a trackable study strategy. Write to the e-GMAT support team. They will connect you with Karan who will help create this personalized study plan.

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27 Feb 2020, 18:29
vanam52923 wrote:
Thank you so much. i have sent u pm

Got it!
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