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Post-MBA goals are not set, I just know I'm looking to make a career change...possibly in management consulting, finance, VC.
Any thoughts on which school?
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New post 24 Mar 2016, 15:13
It totally depends on what you want to do. BC is known for finance and marketing, BU is known for management and healthcare/nonprofit. Since you're leaning towards finance, I would say BC might be a good choice. Personally, I was accepted to both, but BC's network seemed stronger to me.

I'm not sure which is better represented in consulting, but if that's something you're serious about I would recommend calling each career office and asking which firms recruit there, as well as looking at the % of people from each school going into consulting. Going into consulting as a career changer from not a top 20 school might be hard, but I'm sure some people do it.
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For finance, I would definitely recommend BC. The finance faculty is top-notch and there is a very deep and loyal alumni network. As a first year student, I did a trip called TechTrek and got to visit top venture capital firms in Silicon Valley like Highland Capital and Andreessen Horowitz. Peter Bell of HC is an extremely loyal BC alum and he has invested in a lot of BC startups like WePay and ThredUp.

BC also has a class called CIRM that is taught by two top asset managers in Boston and if you complete the three sequences you can be part of a team that manages part of the BC endowment which is a cool opportunity.

I’m a first year student at BC so if you have any other questions – feel free to PM me.
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just to add some insight. As an international student I asked BU about which healthcare or finance firms recruit there and they had no idea. The Feld career center donot reply to emails so BC is the deal here despite its flaws.
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I know this is an old post but be aware one of these two universities jukes the employment stats heavily. I saw the admit letter of one international student and my jaw nearly hit the floor. Very, very sneaky.
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I know this is an old post but be aware one of these two universities jukes the employment stats heavily. I saw the admit letter of one international student and my jaw nearly hit the floor. Very, very sneaky.


Why do you think it is sneaky to disclose something upfront in the Admission letter? Wouldn't it be sneaky to wait until someone accepted the offer of admission?
Admission letter is an offer that leads to a contract. The offer can be pulled at any time before it is accepted and nobody is forcing you to accept an offer (however good or bad it is).

P.S. I know what you are talking about - I have seen the employment warning on the admit letter and I feel in part it is CYA for the school but in part I feel it sets a realistic expectation too. I don't think it is sneaky unless you are talking about a different one or perhaps you can explain why you feel it is and perhaps you will change my mind.
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Which university is it care to disclose the name
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I know this is an old post but be aware one of these two universities jukes the employment stats heavily. I saw the admit letter of one international student and my jaw nearly hit the floor. Very, very sneaky.


Why do you think it is sneaky to disclose something upfront in the Admission letter? Wouldn't it be sneaky to wait until someone accepted the offer of admission?
Admission letter is an offer that leads to a contract. The offer can be pulled at any time before it is accepted and nobody is forcing you to accept an offer (however good or bad it is).

P.S. I know what you are talking about - I have seen the employment warning on the admit letter and I feel in part it is CYA for the school but in part I feel it sets a realistic expectation too. I don't think it is sneaky unless you are talking about a different one or perhaps you can explain why you feel it is and perhaps you will change my mind.


Sneaky cause it jukes the employment report for the rankings and public perception. Im sure their international apps would drop if they put out the real employment report.
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just to add some insight. As an international student I asked BU about which healthcare or finance firms recruit there and they had no idea. The Feld career center donot reply to emails so BC is the deal here despite its flaws.



This statement is so ridiculously untrue!
First off, why would you email the Career Centre at BU for information which is just a couple of two clicks away?
The employment reports are published for a reason.

BC is an amazing school to attend if you are leaning towards financial services.
For Consulting, Management and healthcare -> BU is a much better option!

Just talk to the current students at both schools and you would know the difference.

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Sneaky cause it jukes the employment report for the rankings and public perception. Im sure their international apps would drop if they put out the real employment report.


In this case, I don't know what you are referring to.... who fakes the employment report? how do they do it? How do they do it more than other schools?
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I know this is an old post but be aware one of these two universities jukes the employment stats heavily. I saw the admit letter of one international student and my jaw nearly hit the floor. Very, very sneaky.


Why do you think it is sneaky to disclose something upfront in the Admission letter? Wouldn't it be sneaky to wait until someone accepted the offer of admission?
Admission letter is an offer that leads to a contract. The offer can be pulled at any time before it is accepted and nobody is forcing you to accept an offer (however good or bad it is).

P.S. I know what you are talking about - I have seen the employment warning on the admit letter and I feel in part it is CYA for the school but in part I feel it sets a realistic expectation too. I don't think it is sneaky unless you are talking about a different one or perhaps you can explain why you feel it is and perhaps you will change my mind.


Sneaky cause it jukes the employment report for the rankings and public perception. Im sure their international apps would drop if they put out the real employment report.



You do realise that you are making a HUGE accusation. Do you have any news article or any post or really anything to support that.
I am keen to know the source behind such a remark.

Be it BC or BU- I know current students at both of these programs and as far they are concerned, the employment reports are genuine and accurate. Some international students did mention facing challenges for securing a post MBA job(due to the Immigration mess) but that is true across all schools.
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Sneaky cause it jukes the employment report for the rankings and public perception. Im sure their international apps would drop if they put out the real employment report.


In this case, I don't know what you are referring to.... who fakes the employment report? how do they do it? How do they do it more than other schools?


If internationals who can't get a job aren't reported on the official employment report, then obviously this is boosting their placement percentage significantly. I don't understand what you are missing.

Feel free to list any schools that follow this university's practices for placement percentage. Its not an accusation, its a fact. Ask any international student for their admitted letter and "not seeking gainful employment".

stonecold: It's literally in the admissions letter. I saw it with my own eyes from a friend (not going to take a picture of it obviously).

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Placement Success (weighted by 0.35)

• Mean starting salary and bonus (0.14): This is the average starting salary and bonus of 2017 graduates of a full-time MBA program. Salary figures are based on the number of graduates who reported data. The mean signing bonus is weighted by the proportion of those graduates who reported a bonus, because not everyone who reported a base salary figure reported a signing bonus.

• Employment rates for full-time MBA program graduates: This is the employment rate for 2017 graduates of a full-time MBA program. Those not seeking jobs or for whom no job-seeking information is available are excluded.


Does anyone else see what I'm seeing?

Originally posted by Apply2020 on 18 Apr 2018, 12:59.
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Well it is my right to demand such information as I was unable to find separate data for internationals and domestic student placements in healthcare or finance. The employment and internship report that is published provides a general picture and with current h1b scenario it is imperative to make an informed decision regarding all the programs. I have already talked to alumni and current students and the real picture is only 28 percent of the current class have succeeded in finding employment thus far and it already april, 1 month to go for internship start. For a career switcher into healthcare without industry background I want to know from the career department how many companies in the past have succeeded in sponsoring internationals to get a general idea.
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You are talking about this "scary" letter? :shocked
https://www.bc.edu/content/dam/bc1/scho ... udents.pdf

I do not see anything you are referring to, unless there is another letter that went out separately.



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Well it is my right to demand such information as I was unable to find separate data for internationals and domestic student placements in healthcare or finance. The employment and internship report that is published provides a general picture and with current h1b scenario it is imperative to make an informed decision regarding all the programs. I have already talked to alumni and current students and the real picture is only 28 percent of the current class have succeeded in finding employment thus far and it already april, 1 month to go for internship start. For a career switcher into healthcare without industry background I want to know from the career department how many companies in the past have succeeded in sponsoring internationals to get a general idea.



Okay, w.r.t to the highlighted text - I am a bit lost!

Anyways, I am in touch with the same current students. Last year, BU boasted a 94 percent internship rate. And as you would know that there are a lot of international students at Questrom, the internship report is actually pretty awesome. I am sure that by the time its actual internship time for BU students, MOST (if not all) will have decent offers.

Feel free to PM me incase you have any further queries about BU or BC.

P.S ->BU focuses on a few key pillars, particularly healthcare and public/non profit. If you going in for a Healthcare MBA at Questrom -> You will be fine :cool: :thumbup:
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You are talking about this "scary" letter? :shocked
https://www.bc.edu/content/dam/bc1/scho ... udents.pdf

I do not see anything you are referring to, unless there is another letter that went out separately.



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Sneaky cause it jukes the employment report for the rankings and public perception. Im sure their international apps would drop if they put out the real employment report.


No there is an option to accept within the admit letter, and right next to it you agree that if you enroll you are to be marked as someone "not seeking gainful employment". This is done for presumably ranking purposes. (USNew it counts for 21% of the schools rank).
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Already pm you stonecold. Reply quickly please its urgent. Thanks
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Apply2020 wrote:
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You are talking about this "scary" letter? :shocked
https://www.bc.edu/content/dam/bc1/scho ... udents.pdf

I do not see anything you are referring to, unless there is another letter that went out separately.



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Sneaky cause it jukes the employment report for the rankings and public perception. Im sure their international apps would drop if they put out the real employment report.


No there is an option to accept within the admit letter, and right next to it you agree that if you enroll you are to be marked as someone "not seeking gainful employment". This is done for presumably ranking purposes. (USNew it counts for 21% of the schools rank).



Thanks for explaining! That took a bit of time to get all of us to the same page but I finally got there.
That is an interesting twist of events if true (which is a bit of a question). If it is, then theoretically in 2 years (when these folks would graduate), they would not count international students in reporting the the employment numbers... so in 3 years their rankings would somewhat improve potentially....

However, I do not think that's the case. I would assume that the student checks the box that says "not seeking gainful employment in the US".... not that they are not planning to work at all for the rest of their lives... and that would not disqualify the candidate from being in the rankings per se, since grads would count regardless of where they took a job (in the US or in their home country).

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I can see this being presented to those who did not meet those qualifications....
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P.S just to add amazon straight forward turned down a BU candidate for internship interview a night before it was scheduled. All the preparation and hard work for him went to drain. Thats how tough it is currently for both these schools. Unless for a full ride I would think 100 times before committing to either these schools.
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Those not seeking jobs or for whom no job-seeking information is available are excluded.

My guess is that those who find employment get bundled in and those who can't find anything and go back home will be in this "those not seeking jobs" and get excluded. Feel free to ping any other INTL student you know who got in this year, or the previous year. Perhaps this is a new thing they are trying out.
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