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Hi, I am a current FT MBA student at Mcmaster.

Guys don't even consider the FT program as the class profile of students is not worth the fees you will pay and the School focuses more on Co-Op students.

Anybody applying for FT program just doesn't bother, I feel like I have wasted my time and money.

There are no stats available for Job placements of FT students. The school doesn't help FT students to get jobs as they do for Co-op students.

Remember the school and Employer has an incentive to hire Co-op students for internships as the Govt of Canada provides Tax rebates/Credits up to $7k for every Co-op student hired by the employer. Whereas on hiring FT student, there is not tax benefit for the employer.

So, if anybody wants to apply then only consider Co-op option in case you are okay to study with young graduates between 22 to 24 years old. There are some older students,you will only find Indian and Chinese over 24 years old age in the Co-op program however Canadians who opt for Co-Op MBA are young graduates or students with up to 2 years of experience.

Class Size Co-op = 120 students (Majority from Canada, rest mostly from India and China, there are 2 or 3 students from south america)
Full time - 40 to 50 students (currently 40% canadians, 15% indians, 25% Chinese and rest from other)
Classes of Co-op students and FT takes place together except for the second semester.


Hi Prateek,

I have few questions. I sincerely hope you can help me with these, and I will be highly obliged for the same,

1. How much work experience did you have before MBA?

2. Are you an international student?
Your specialization?

3. As per my understanding from your previous post, more than 80% full time students have to find their jobs themselves because college does not help finding jobs. Is this what I should consider?




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1.) I have 4 years of work experience before starting the MBA course.
2.)Yes, I am an International student. I haven't decided on my specialization yet as I am in 2nd semester.
3.) I am not where 80% comes from. If you are an international student then you should consider it as you will be investing over 100,000 dollars in 20 months which is not worth it for DeGroote. If you are canadian then your investment us 40,000 dollars + living which is okay if you dont have any other better options.


Thanks Prateek, for the information it will definetly help me.



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Hey All,

Sorry, I have not logged in for a while and just replied to a lot of questions sent to me. Apologies if I missed any.
I'm happy to take more questions here :)

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Hi Guys,
I just received an admission offer from degroote for full time MBA.
Can you please share what all information you have about the school.
Would really appreciate it.
Also, can we talk on whatsapp( if a group has been made yet) or via mail.
My number is +919974096701.
Mail I'd is: amulya619@gmail.com
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I'm an MBA Co-op Candidate from the intake of 2016 (The batch before you). Feel free to add me to the Official WhatsApp group for your batch if you need any help. :)

PM me for contact details.

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Hello Guys,

I too am an MBA Co-op Candidate at DSB from the 2016 intake.

Do add me to your WhatsApp group for your batch if you need any help. PM me for contact details.

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Hello MBA aspirants,

I am an MBA Full-time Candidate at DeGroote from the 2016 intake. Feel free to add me to the WhatsApp group for your 2017 intake batch for any queries. Please message me for contact details.

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Hello Everyone,

I have got an acceptance for the Full Time program.

We have a whatsapp group for the accepted candidates, created by Ashar Ali.
Accepted students can reach out to me @ +91- 8888808160, if you wish to be added to the group.

For those who are applying.. please feel free to reach me with any question you have regarding the application process.

Thanks,
Soumya Khansama
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soumya.khansama@gmail.com


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Is it worth to pay 78K Canadian dollars (Fees for my MBA batch) for Full time MBA at DeGroote?

My Answer is NO, and the following are the reasons.

Class Size – 45 to 50 Students. (Students are dominantly from only Canada and China and a few from India, therefore, there is not much diversity in class). The school will claim that the class size is 160, but that is including Co-Op students.

DeGroote can’t be considered as a Global MBA school as till date even if I am about to finish my 2nd semester; there has not been one single case study or strategy about any international brand discussed in class. Class discussion is limited to North American perspective, and even the professors are reluctant to talk about anything with Global outlook.
One can surely go to career services for help with CV and cover letters, but they are not working as hard to attract employers for full-time students as they do for Co-Op students. There have been occasions where there are events organized by the Career services for Co-op students only and FT students are not allowed.

In regards to summer jobs/internships, since last three weeks, there has been not a single summer job posted by the DeGroote career services on the job opening portal for full-time students. These actions clearly explain how much the career services wants to help full-time MBA students to get summer jobs. The aim of career services is to place all Co-op students, but that is not the case for full-time students.

Most of the events are conducted by employers from finance or Health industry at DeGroote (Burlington, MBA Campus). The School is very much Finance focused which is good news for students planning to specialize in Finance, however, not good news for students who don’t want to study Finance or Health and services management courses. Till date, there has not been a single event organized by someone from retail, CPG or technology industry. At the main campus, which is in Hamilton, there are many events organized by companies from different industries, but the MBA classes take place at Burlington campus, so it’s difficult to attend those events.

After attending many networking events organized by DeGroote, in my opinion, DeGroote has an image in the job market of producing good Co-op MBA students, therefore, the employers who come to the school look for Co-op students rather than full time students. Consequently, when employers think of the school then what they have in mind is students with Co-op experience.

At every event in which DeGroote invited Alumni of the School for a talk, there has not been a single occasion where they invited an Alumni who did full-time MBA. Alumni who come to School talk about their Co-op experiences, how they got Co-op jobs, how Co-op jobs helped them to be where they are, and how can the incoming students get Co-op jobs. Please note getting a Co-op is entirely different from getting a Summer internship.

There is no postgraduate student accommodation available for international students so as international students we miss the opportunity to form a personal relationship with other students rather than professional one. People who have lived in university hostels and accommodation would know what I am talking about. Living together in the same building with a common area helps to form a different kind of bond among students rather than just meeting at school.

There is more attention given to Co-op students (approx. 120 students) whereas FT students are around 40 to 50. As there are more Co-op students than full-time students, and following my conversation with the administration, Alumni and faculty members at the business school, I feel that Co-op MBA is the Bread and Butter for DeGroote, but the Full-time MBA is not.

There are very few top positions available for Full-time students at any of the clubs at DeGroote as most of the executive members of the clubs have to be Co-op MBA students.
For all the above reasons, MBA full-time program is not the worth the time and investment if you are an international student (without Canadian permanent residency).
Please try for Co-op at McMaster rather than Full-time until you don't have any other option or can't improve your GMAT score.

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I have an interview for the co-op program tomorrow... Any advise?

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I have an interview for the co-op program tomorrow... Any advise?



Can you let me know how your Co-op interview went?
How much time did the interview last?
What questions were asked.
Mine is today. Instant reply would be really helpful. :)

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I have an interview for the co-op program tomorrow... Any advise?



Can you let me know how your Co-op interview went?
How much time did the interview last?
What questions were asked.
Mine is today. Instant reply would be really helpful. :)


Hi... The interview went pretty well and was not very complicated.
They begin by asking you about yourself and the reason you chose this program and then move on to 4-5 basic behavioral questions, which you can
briefly prepare for, through google searching.

Practice talking into the camera if you are not very comfortable with that ( I wasn't and that was a slight setback for me)
You can reach me at 8600007805 if you have any other questions.

Stay calm and positive :) Best of Luck.

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Guys how long does it take on an average to come out with the results of the co-op interview??

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I am from India, and just got selected to DeGroote's FT. I need financial aid and accommodation suggestions. Please advice!

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just did the online video interview. the questions were pretty random, my connection dropped in between and they gave me a new question.

for practice questions, they gave "tea or coffee and why" and "what is your favourite home cooked meal"
but the actual questions were much harder such as what do you think corporate social responsibility should be and give a time where you gave a group presentation etc.

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Is it worth to pay 78K Canadian dollars (Fees for my MBA batch) for Full time MBA at DeGroote?

My Answer is NO, and the following are the reasons.

Class Size – 45 to 50 Students. (Students are dominantly from only Canada and China and a few from India, therefore, there is not much diversity in class). The school will claim that the class size is 160, but that is including Co-Op students.

DeGroote can’t be considered as a Global MBA school as till date even if I am about to finish my 2nd semester; there has not been one single case study or strategy about any international brand discussed in class. Class discussion is limited to North American perspective, and even the professors are reluctant to talk about anything with Global outlook.
One can surely go to career services for help with CV and cover letters, but they are not working as hard to attract employers for full-time students as they do for Co-Op students. There have been occasions where there are events organized by the Career services for Co-op students only and FT students are not allowed.

In regards to summer jobs/internships, since last three weeks, there has been not a single summer job posted by the DeGroote career services on the job opening portal for full-time students. These actions clearly explain how much the career services wants to help full-time MBA students to get summer jobs. The aim of career services is to place all Co-op students, but that is not the case for full-time students.

Most of the events are conducted by employers from finance or Health industry at DeGroote (Burlington, MBA Campus). The School is very much Finance focused which is good news for students planning to specialize in Finance, however, not good news for students who don’t want to study Finance or Health and services management courses. Till date, there has not been a single event organized by someone from retail, CPG or technology industry. At the main campus, which is in Hamilton, there are many events organized by companies from different industries, but the MBA classes take place at Burlington campus, so it’s difficult to attend those events.

After attending many networking events organized by DeGroote, in my opinion, DeGroote has an image in the job market of producing good Co-op MBA students, therefore, the employers who come to the school look for Co-op students rather than full time students. Consequently, when employers think of the school then what they have in mind is students with Co-op experience.

At every event in which DeGroote invited Alumni of the School for a talk, there has not been a single occasion where they invited an Alumni who did full-time MBA. Alumni who come to School talk about their Co-op experiences, how they got Co-op jobs, how Co-op jobs helped them to be where they are, and how can the incoming students get Co-op jobs. Please note getting a Co-op is entirely different from getting a Summer internship.

There is no postgraduate student accommodation available for international students so as international students we miss the opportunity to form a personal relationship with other students rather than professional one. People who have lived in university hostels and accommodation would know what I am talking about. Living together in the same building with a common area helps to form a different kind of bond among students rather than just meeting at school.

There is more attention given to Co-op students (approx. 120 students) whereas FT students are around 40 to 50. As there are more Co-op students than full-time students, and following my conversation with the administration, Alumni and faculty members at the business school, I feel that Co-op MBA is the Bread and Butter for DeGroote, but the Full-time MBA is not.

There are very few top positions available for Full-time students at any of the clubs at DeGroote as most of the executive members of the clubs have to be Co-op MBA students.
For all the above reasons, MBA full-time program is not the worth the time and investment if you are an international student (without Canadian permanent residency).
Please try for Co-op at McMaster rather than Full-time until you don't have any other option or can't improve your GMAT score.


What are the chances of securing a Scholarship for the MBA co-op program?
Also, what is the avg profile of the cohort wrt age, gmat score and domain of exp??

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Hi everyone,

I just received my offer from DeGroote. I had applied for the co-op program, but have been offered admission into the FT program instead. My concern is that at 80k, the cost of the FT program is too high. The mandatory co-op work terms would have helped me pay for my tuition, but with the FT program, I feel the risk is significantly higher since it would all hinge on the kind of job offers I'd receive at the end of it.

Is my thinking justified? Can some of the current students shed some light on the "reputation" of the DeGroote FT program in Canada? I've been reading about how the university gives more preference to its co-op stream students since that's what its known for. How true is this? Would you recommend that I email them back requesting them to consider me for the co-op program citing financial reasons?

I'm really confused. I need help to decide whether I should take this offer up or not. Any insights are much appreciated.

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Guys how long does it take on an average to come out with the results of the co-op interview??


I don't think there is a specific duration. The admission team meets every Wednesday to review applications.
I went for my MBA Co-op interview on the 30th of March and got my admissions letter on the 4th of April. However, I know of a friend who got his own letter on the 3rd.
Let me know if you have any question. Whatsapp +1 647 740 9617

For those who already received their offer letters, add me to a group if there is one already so that we get to know each other before September.

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Hi everyone!

I got an offer for the Co-op program and thought I should share some insight on my application process.

Application submitted: November 30th
Video interview completed: December 5th
Co-op interview: January 6th
Received offer: January 20th

I did horribly on the video interview because I was really nervous and ended up not answering the questions well. Make sure you get enough practice talking into a camera as I think that would really help!

My in person Co-op interview was a very positive experience. The questions I received for the Co-op interview were very similar to the ones 'applicant19' has provided and the interviewers were extremely friendly and courteous.

My applicant details:

GMAT: 650
WE: 2.5 Years in Financial Services
CGPA: 3.35
Domestic Applicant

Hope this helps!



Hey thank you very much for sharing your experience rapsfan1992! I have just completed my Co-op interview and feel like I could have done much better. Hopefully hear some good news in 10 business days. :)

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Is it worth to pay 78K Canadian dollars (Fees for my MBA batch) for Full time MBA at DeGroote?

My Answer is NO, and the following are the reasons.

Class Size – 45 to 50 Students. (Students are dominantly from only Canada and China and a few from India, therefore, there is not much diversity in class). The school will claim that the class size is 160, but that is including Co-Op students.

DeGroote can’t be considered as a Global MBA school as till date even if I am about to finish my 2nd semester; there has not been one single case study or strategy about any international brand discussed in class. Class discussion is limited to North American perspective, and even the professors are reluctant to talk about anything with Global outlook.
One can surely go to career services for help with CV and cover letters, but they are not working as hard to attract employers for full-time students as they do for Co-Op students. There have been occasions where there are events organized by the Career services for Co-op students only and FT students are not allowed.

In regards to summer jobs/internships, since last three weeks, there has been not a single summer job posted by the DeGroote career services on the job opening portal for full-time students. These actions clearly explain how much the career services wants to help full-time MBA students to get summer jobs. The aim of career services is to place all Co-op students, but that is not the case for full-time students.

Most of the events are conducted by employers from finance or Health industry at DeGroote (Burlington, MBA Campus). The School is very much Finance focused which is good news for students planning to specialize in Finance, however, not good news for students who don’t want to study Finance or Health and services management courses. Till date, there has not been a single event organized by someone from retail, CPG or technology industry. At the main campus, which is in Hamilton, there are many events organized by companies from different industries, but the MBA classes take place at Burlington campus, so it’s difficult to attend those events.

After attending many networking events organized by DeGroote, in my opinion, DeGroote has an image in the job market of producing good Co-op MBA students, therefore, the employers who come to the school look for Co-op students rather than full time students. Consequently, when employers think of the school then what they have in mind is students with Co-op experience.

At every event in which DeGroote invited Alumni of the School for a talk, there has not been a single occasion where they invited an Alumni who did full-time MBA. Alumni who come to School talk about their Co-op experiences, how they got Co-op jobs, how Co-op jobs helped them to be where they are, and how can the incoming students get Co-op jobs. Please note getting a Co-op is entirely different from getting a Summer internship.

There is no postgraduate student accommodation available for international students so as international students we miss the opportunity to form a personal relationship with other students rather than professional one. People who have lived in university hostels and accommodation would know what I am talking about. Living together in the same building with a common area helps to form a different kind of bond among students rather than just meeting at school.

There is more attention given to Co-op students (approx. 120 students) whereas FT students are around 40 to 50. As there are more Co-op students than full-time students, and following my conversation with the administration, Alumni and faculty members at the business school, I feel that Co-op MBA is the Bread and Butter for DeGroote, but the Full-time MBA is not.

There are very few top positions available for Full-time students at any of the clubs at DeGroote as most of the executive members of the clubs have to be Co-op MBA students.
For all the above reasons, MBA full-time program is not the worth the time and investment if you are an international student (without Canadian permanent residency).
Please try for Co-op at McMaster rather than Full-time until you don't have any other option or can't improve your GMAT score.


Hey Prateek,

Thanks for the information, but how good is DeGroote Co-op for Marketing? I mean, I have an IT background and this will be a career transition for me.
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