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Hi All,

I am admitted to ESMT, Berlin for Jan'19 Intake. Looking forward to meeting future applicants and classmates.

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Accepted as well with a small scholarship. Trying to decide whether to take the leap to Germany from the USA. Do you know how intense the program is since its a one year? My biggest concern is bringing a wife along and opportunities coming back to the USA at some point afterwards....
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Accepted as well with a small scholarship. Trying to decide whether to take the leap to Germany from the USA. Do you know how intense the program is since its a one year? My biggest concern is bringing a wife along and opportunities coming back to the USA at some point afterwards....


Congrats for the offer! It is a very intense program for first 5-6 months. Berlin is a very safe city to live in, but opportunities for non-German speaking people are very less. And in US, this program is not widely known. Hope it helps.

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Accepted as well with a small scholarship. Trying to decide whether to take the leap to Germany from the USA. Do you know how intense the program is since its a one year? My biggest concern is bringing a wife along and opportunities coming back to the USA at some point afterwards....



Firstly congrats on your offer..!
Well, the decision making is dependent on your post MBA career goal. That said, I would elucidate on the factors below

[b]Curriculum [/b]: - One of the best in Germany, good value for money ( FT-8 rank as far as Val. for money is concerned) + we also have an opportunity to work for a cause which is completely funded by the college as a part of Responsible Leadership Program- which I am sure, adds a great value to our resume in the long run. (for 6 months)
Nevertheless, it should be noted that, ESMT is NOT IMD. Classes are completely in English.

Fees
:- much cheaper than upper tier-2 colleges than the US, also as far as I know, US citizens don't have visa issues too.. Living expenses are also affordable.

Alumni Spread
:- Decent recognition inside Germany, the best part is its location- which is Berlin- extremely international envt. Fair and safe society too.. There are also guys who got into MBB firms.

Post MBA employment
: Ranges from 65k Eur to 150K Eur. If you want to get into Tech firms, it is one of the best places to get into in Europe, if consulting is the goal, German is mandatory. At least B1 level by the time you complete MBA should keep you in an extremely safe place to own a job. As you know Berlin is the EU startup hub, there is always a greater chance to bag great opportunities.


Moral of the story - If you learn German at least to the level of B1- the chances of NOT getting a job is very little. Germany is great in terms of employer rules and social security too.
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bhargavhyd another question as well, you can also PM if you want, do you seem to get along well with your classmates? Do you have any freetime after your day, or basically study nonstop for the first few months? I only ask so my fiance will know what to expect.

Thanks for the feedback! I speak Germany at a B2/C1 level, my German might be a little rusty but I've studied abroad in Germany / did an internship as well as visited Berlin several times. My goal is to work in a startup afterwards so that I can gain a little more experience before trying my own venture. Speaking German isn't a problem, it's more my fiance who did her full time MBA at Chicago Booth a few years back and whether shes going to find work in Berlin with limited German. She is currently a senior manager at Walgreens in the digital realm. She is also not getting younger / thinking about starting a family etc after we get married in December.

I like the program because it seems a little older, tons of startup opportunities, and a chance to get my German up to the C2 level.

I think we just have to consider living in Germany a year or two afterwards.

I did get accepted to Esade but couldn't accept because the visa situation in Spain is a lot more difficult when bringing a partner along.

Only other school I am seriously considering is Boulder.

I would have applied to other schools, but set my sites a little lower as I'm an older candidate, 34, and there tends to be a lot more age discrimination at the top programs / want me to join their evening programs but not full time....





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nickola wrote:
Accepted as well with a small scholarship. Trying to decide whether to take the leap to Germany from the USA. Do you know how intense the program is since its a one year? My biggest concern is bringing a wife along and opportunities coming back to the USA at some point afterwards....



Firstly congrats on your offer..!
Well, the decision making is dependent on your post MBA career goal. That said, I would elucidate on the factors below

[b]Curriculum [/b]: - One of the best in Germany, good value for money ( FT-8 rank as far as Val. for money is concerned) + we also have an opportunity to work for a cause which is completely funded by the college as a part of Responsible Leadership Program- which I am sure, adds a great value to our resume in the long run. (for 6 months)
Nevertheless, it should be noted that, ESMT is NOT IMD. Classes are completely in English.

Fees
:- much cheaper than upper tier-2 colleges than the US, also as far as I know, US citizens don't have visa issues too.. Living expenses are also affordable.

Alumni Spread
:- Decent recognition inside Germany, the best part is its location- which is Berlin- extremely international envt. Fair and safe society too.. There are also guys who got into MBB firms.

Post MBA employment
: Ranges from 65k Eur to 150K Eur. If you want to get into Tech firms, it is one of the best places to get into in Europe, if consulting is the goal, German is mandatory. At least B1 level by the time you complete MBA should keep you in an extremely safe place to own a job. As you know Berlin is the EU startup hub, there is always a greater chance to bag great opportunities.


Moral of the story - If you learn German at least to the level of B1- the chances of NOT getting a job is very little. Germany is great in terms of employer rules and social security too.
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Congratulations you both on admit. I have couple of questions if you may help
1. How many days it took from application submission to admission confirmation?
2. What was the process ?
3. Can you share your interview experiences please?
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Congratulations you both on admit. I have couple of questions if you may help
1. How many days it took from application submission to admission confirmation?
2. What was the process ?
3. Can you share your interview experiences please?



1. How many days it took from application submission to admission confirmation?
It takes close to a month ( depending upon the number of applications)
2. What was the process ?
Application submission > document verification > interview > Confirmation
3. Can you share your interview experiences please?
Please note that, if you are invited to the interview- you can be 90% sure of an admit. The rejection is post interview is low, unless there is a blunder from one's side.
That said, interview is more of a formal discussion about, why mba, what post mba and some personal stuff.
its a very simple coffee time discussion.
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Thanks Bhargava ...

I have applied on 1st of April and my refrees submitted recommendations on 2nd. Fingers crossed now..

Can you suggest on following
1. Do you have agriculture industry represention in current class?.
2. Do I need to send official gmat score before document verification?
. I have uploaded GMAT score report copy along the application though.
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Thanks Bhargava ...

I have applied on 1st of April and my refrees submitted recommendations on 2nd. Fingers crossed now..

Can you suggest on following
1. Do you have agriculture industry represention in current class?.
2. Do I need to send official gmat score before document verification?
. I have uploaded GMAT score report copy along the application though.



1. Do you have agriculture industry represention in current class?.
don't worry - I am a Human genetics guy degree too. (your application process depends on post mba goals).
We are atleast better than engineers w.r.t competation

2. Do I need to send official gmat score before document verification?
No- I have just uploaded the "test taker copy"
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Anyone know anything about spouses finding jobs? Our main concern is difficulty in finding senior management positions for non German speaking spouse with booth Mba and 5 years experience in a top position. Though maybe if she starts now b1 is achievable by January?

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Submitted my application in 04.04, got a mail stating that most of the seats are accepted and they will let me know if they will consider my application by e. Apr


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Guys, did any of you receive an update on your application?
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Hello,

I received my admit to the Jan 2019 Intake with a small scholarship. Any of you have already enrolled?

Submitted my application on March 26, had interview on April 18 and received the selection decision on April 26. My interview was with Stephanie and it was a really engaging and fun interview - more like a chat over coffee than an interview. It lasted around 45-50 minutes with questions over experience, leadership abilities, motivations, strengths etc
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Hello,

I received my admit to the Jan 2019 Intake with a small scholarship. Any of you have already enrolled?

Submitted my application on March 26, had interview on April 18 and received the selection decision on April 26. My interview was with Stephanie and it was a really engaging and fun interview - more like a chat over coffee than an interview. It lasted around 45-50 minutes with questions over experience, leadership abilities, motivations, strengths etc


Congrats for the achievement.
The process was more or less the same for me too.
I do have an offer with ESMT- while I got an admit in RSM too.
Thinking which one to take up... I am confused :| :|
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animaxx43 wrote:
Hello,

I received my admit to the Jan 2019 Intake with a small scholarship. Any of you have already enrolled?

Submitted my application on March 26, had interview on April 18 and received the selection decision on April 26. My interview was with Stephanie and it was a really engaging and fun interview - more like a chat over coffee than an interview. It lasted around 45-50 minutes with questions over experience, leadership abilities, motivations, strengths etc


Congrats for the achievement.
The process was more or less the same for me too.
I do have an offer with ESMT- while I got an admit in RSM too.
Thinking which one to take up... I am confused :| :|



Awesome congrats man, making it to RSM so early is a great achievement and yeah its a tough decision now. I have also applied for RSM but yet to hear back like scores of other Indian candidates. Kudos to you for making it through :)

I feel the question is more about Netherlands vs Germany and whether you are okay with learning or have background in German language. In terms of learning experience and global outlook, I guess both schools are similar. Also what industry you want to get into would be important.
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bhargavhyd wrote:
animaxx43 wrote:
Hello,

I received my admit to the Jan 2019 Intake with a small scholarship. Any of you have already enrolled?

Submitted my application on March 26, had interview on April 18 and received the selection decision on April 26. My interview was with Stephanie and it was a really engaging and fun interview - more like a chat over coffee than an interview. It lasted around 45-50 minutes with questions over experience, leadership abilities, motivations, strengths etc


Congrats for the achievement.
The process was more or less the same for me too.
I do have an offer with ESMT- while I got an admit in RSM too.
Thinking which one to take up... I am confused :| :|



Awesome congrats man, making it to RSM so early is a great achievement and yeah its a tough decision now. I have also applied for RSM but yet to hear back like scores of other Indian candidates. Kudos to you for making it through :)

I feel the question is more about Netherlands vs Germany and whether you are okay with learning or have background in German language. In terms of learning experience and global outlook, I guess both schools are similar. Also what industry you want to get into would be important.



Thank you mate..! :angel:

I wouldn't mind learning German - but in terms of Global reputation - RSM is more popular. But ESMT is cost-effective compared to RSM.
Nevertheless, the difference of cost between both the institutes is substantiated by the Brand Equity of RSM.

I am looking for a function switch and move to management from technology consulting. Since the Dutch arn't too stringent on language I am leaning towards RSM.

Not that I do not want to learn German, but it's just that, I wouldn't have time to learn and do justice to the language in such a short span. :roll: :roll:

I am still undecided anyway :| :|
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Awesome congrats man, making it to RSM so early is a great achievement and yeah its a tough decision now. I have also applied for RSM but yet to hear back like scores of other Indian candidates. Kudos to you for making it through :)

I feel the question is more about Netherlands vs Germany and whether you are okay with learning or have background in German language. In terms of learning experience and global outlook, I guess both schools are similar. Also what industry you want to get into would be important.[/quote]


Thank you mate..! :angel:

I wouldn't mind learning German - but in terms of Global reputation - RSM is more popular. But ESMT is cost-effective compared to RSM.
Nevertheless, the difference of cost between both the institutes is substantiated by the Brand Equity of RSM.

I am looking for a function switch and move to management from technology consulting. Since the Dutch arn't too stringent on language I am leaning towards RSM.

Not that I do not want to learn German, but it's just that, I wouldn't have time to learn and do justice to the language in such a short span. :roll: :roll:

I am still undecided anyway :| :|[/quote]



I was speaking to an Indian alumni of ESMT. He said he had friends in RSM who gave him feedback that Dutch companies prefer Dutch speaking candidates especially for customer facing roles like Management consulting and marketing. Hence, you might want to get some feedback and maybe learn Dutch to better your chances at RSM.

Btw one query, if management consulting is the main motive, why not try at Insead or LBS with a GMAT score like yours? I know for a fact that the Big 4 in consulting hire for their Europe requirements majorly from these 2 colleges. I know they are expensive w.r.t. fees but the benefits are a lot more if you want to get into consulting.
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Awesome congrats man, making it to RSM so early is a great achievement and yeah its a tough decision now. I have also applied for RSM but yet to hear back like scores of other Indian candidates. Kudos to you for making it through :)

I feel the question is more about Netherlands vs Germany and whether you are okay with learning or have background in German language. In terms of learning experience and global outlook, I guess both schools are similar. Also what industry you want to get into would be important.



Thank you mate..! :angel:

I wouldn't mind learning German - but in terms of Global reputation - RSM is more popular. But ESMT is cost-effective compared to RSM.
Nevertheless, the difference of cost between both the institutes is substantiated by the Brand Equity of RSM.

I am looking for a function switch and move to management from technology consulting. Since the Dutch arn't too stringent on language I am leaning towards RSM.

Not that I do not want to learn German, but it's just that, I wouldn't have time to learn and do justice to the language in such a short span. :roll: :roll:

I am still undecided anyway :| :|[/quote]



I was speaking to an Indian alumni of ESMT. He said he had friends in RSM who gave him feedback that Dutch companies prefer Dutch speaking candidates especially for customer facing roles like Management consulting and marketing. Hence, you might want to get some feedback and maybe learn Dutch to better your chances at RSM.

Btw one query, if management consulting is the main motive, why not try at Insead or LBS with a GMAT score like yours? I know for a fact that the Big 4 in consulting hire for their Europe requirements majorly from these 2 colleges. I know they are expensive w.r.t. fees but the benefits are a lot more if you want to get into consulting.[/quote]



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The review given by the Alumni is true to an extent. But the Dutch aren't as rigid as Germans when it comes to language. If you can excel in your profile and show the skill- your probability of landing in your dream role is much higher.

To be honest, our priorities may change once into the program. As quoted, if I cannot make it to Management consulting- I will remain in tech consulting. :-)

Now why LBS and INSEAD is more like Brexit issues in UK + INSEAD- you have only one chance to get through placements. You wouldn't have a second chance.

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I am admitted to ESMT, Berlin for Jan'19 Intake. Looking forward to meeting future applicants and classmates.

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hi can anyone please tell me how much time ESMT admission committee takes after submitting the full time mba application to respond and if they call for an interview what are the usual interview questions asked..??
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